I buy 2 items I totally don't want to get better price on something I do want!
rampart_1576840087
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i don't know who runs the marketing at Daz3d, but it these "buy 2 of something I totally do not want this to get a better price on something I can use".
If I went to Amazon or any other e-commerce website I would never see such a thing.
Think about it, you buy stuff you totally don't want and cannot use to buy something you can use.
The sale today requires to buy 2 new items, and that means you will spend minimum of $14 on 2 of the 11 items of content you don't want.
Then I get to buy something I can use at a reduced price,
I msut offest by the $14 minimum I must spend on stuff I can't use for something I can use.
This is a lousy deal, and Daz mareketing persists with this funny stuff.
On occasion, I might actually find 2 things I want in such a sale and benefit.
I have participated in some of these sales, as that was the choice.
Yes, I may or may not have gotten a little better price.
As a result I have a bunch of content I suspect I will never use, and items that require basic content I have to buy to use.
I look at these sales, add the price minimum I have to pay to participate (because the items required to buy are wothless to me)
Then I balance what I pay for what I can actually use to see if participating is worth it.
Most often it isn't worth it, so I rarely participate in these promotions.
Maybe, it pays off for daz. In fact, it probably does or they would not persist.
There are some good sales, and I do appreciate them. So it isn't all bad.
This might actually help...
Why not hold new items for a longer time in these promotions it would be alot easier to participate, if there were 30, 40 or more items instead of only 11 items.
This may be the way it started out, but has persisted to be used with fewer and fewer items to choose from.
There are always alot of new items, Daz needs to let the promotions run longer
In my own case, I would at least be more interested to view the sales and possibly participate.
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Actually, I've seen this type of promotion (ie "buy X things from this selection and get a discount on item X+1" on other e-commerce sites or even in real stores a good number of times...
Hmm... so you like these kinds of sales do you?
The whole get a discount by buying more stuff is used in shops all the time. Our local supermarkets are always doing buy 2 or buy 3 and get them cheaper deals.
Whether you let it influence your buying is entirely up to you. In the case of Daz I wouldn't buy stuff I don't want just to get the deal, but sometimes the combined price of some things I do want brings the cost down to a level I am more willing to consider.
Only Daz knows what the advantage is to force you to buy something you have no interest in instead of offering a similar promotion on a bundle of items you do want, but they do not appear to be deviating from that business model at this time. We all enjoy going to a automobile showroom to have a salesman keep insisting us to buy the car we don't want or having the waiter bring us something we didn't order and telling us to eat it so I'm sure that is the anti-rust-coat-deep-fried-logic behind this genius.
Just buy what you like or need.
In one case, I ended up with an item I didn't want, because the cost of 'thing I want' was exactly equal to 'sale of thing I don't want + thing I do want.'
So, hey, what the heck. Maybe some day I'll actually want it.
And if you DO happen to want all the items, or want them but lower priority, it can work very nicely.
There you have it.
Well, some people out there probably do want to buy the other two items... But this isn't a new idea... almost anytime you buy a variety pack, it will be 3 of a popular flavor, 3 or a semi popular flavor and 16 of spiced pumpkin gorilla butt mocha which they can't pay people to take normally. Many e-commerce sites are actually worse... There is one in particular that charges different prices to different shoppers, either based on purchase history or local income statistics, and it's special "club" which offers "free" shipping has a shipping price built in... Most of the time (for example) I'll see a $25 item (with free shipping) and be able to quickly track that same item down on the same site for $18 plus $4 shipping from a vendor not participating in the club prices... In a few cases I actually got the item for half the "special member" price... Then there is the "spend $35 or more (some restrictions apply)" deal where it's great if you are shopping for a $40 item, but sorta tempts you into not making purchases under $35... Everywhere you look someone is trying to snooker you in with some gimmick or other. I personally have no interest in two thirds of the sales here, they are either confusing, convoluted or not all that great a deal... Sadly though of that remaining one third, I usually miss 80% of it but get to read about how good it was in some "hey, heads up..." thread. The funny thing is this is the work of marketing people, who think they know how people think, but they learned that from people who marketed their ideas on how people think, to them, so they could market their ideas to people who pay them so they don't have to think about that themselves. I think most people prefer simple easy to understand sales, but most marketing people swear against that... Maybe that's true, or maybe it's because if sales were simple, you wouldn't really need marketing people... Who knows. Maybe one day I'll hire a marketing firm do a study on that.
+1
I occasionally participate in these combo deals, but it's only when the items fit the criteria above. In fact I often don't even realize that I'm getting a "magic" sale combination until I go to checkout, and I'm pleasantly surprised at better than expected prices!
These type of limited time sales really target impulse buyers,
As long as you don't buy two items you don't want to get a special discount on other items you don't want you shouldn't have any need to join a shopaholic support group.
Not saying I've done that myself, but sometimes the prices are almost too darned good to resist, and who knows, one day those things might actually come to use...
It is my understanding there are companies now creating algorithms similar to those used by Google search to get more money out their e-commerce stores. If the buyer is more affluent, the buyer frequents more often, the buyer is male or female, the address of the buyer, the kind of merchandise bought, etc. All critieria that can be developed to squeeze more money out of buyers.
I can go to a retailer webiste and look at something and I get popups for days. It happens all the time with DAZ. I can go to Drudgereport, youtube or other site and the daz3d ads will show up. There was a time, when you got a new fresh IP address everytime you used a modem. Now the broadband is on all the time, so the IP providers assign and IP to you and you are stuck with it until the IP provider changes it. They may not change it for a year or longer. There is no longer anonymity on the web unless you use a proxy in some foreign country that will not store your activities on their servers.
So we could be in "marketer hell" right now and not know it. LOL
Daz could do this right now... example. If you have a history of buying content at average of 40% discount they could just tag your account with that information. Then it would be a simple logic pointer to allow you maximum discount in the 40% range. Yes, I know because we have the forums it might be known soon enough. However, it could be difficult to pick up on the practice unless you paid very close attention.
An example of a similar clandestine method is used by youtube. In order to post comments on youtube, you must have an account. If you are posting things the youtube word police don't like they can flag your account. They don't cut you off or make any fuss about your comments. You login and make your comments and voila, you see your comment as you created it. You logout and do other things, then you log back into youtube and go to check for responses to the comment you made...there are none, but there your post is big as life with no replys. You shake it off and go on about your business. Then later you go back and fail to login to view your post and any replys. Whoops, your posting is not there...it was last time you looked. You scroll every comment...no posting of yours. Then you login and voila there is your comment big as life with no replys to your comment. You shake your head and don't think about it. ---- You missed it. The comments you are making are "ghosted" that is correct. Youtube lets you post to your hearts content, and no one ever sees your comments. The owner of the youtube channel does not even know that some comments are being ghosted.
We have to always remember, there is logic and programming that sites owners can develop to do all manner of things we would not appreciate....if we knew.
The type of junk I just mentioned it the principal reason I don't use Google Chrome, or Google anything unless compelled. They have more ferrets in the information garden than we can imagine. No I don't hate Google, what sense would it make. I know to expect unexpected things from Google, so I am careful...if I can be.
We are all just money sheep waiting to shorn.
That's cute... the little duckie reminds of a phrase that applies. " Like a little duck, if it doesn't rain I guess I will just have to walk."
That's not what I said, I specifically answered to your statement that "you would never see that on another site".
As for those sales, I neither like nor dislike them. If I'm interested in what is offered I buy it, and if that means an extra discount then great. If I'm not interested then I don't buy it. If I'm only interested in one item and I feel the price is good enough then I buy it, otherwise I don't.
I personally don't see the point of buying items I'm not interested in just because I could save a dollar or two on another item. I might do it if the total amount spent is actually lower with the extra item(s), but it usually isn't so why would I do it? The fact that there's a special offer on doesn't mean that I absolutely have to use it....
And anyway, it's DAZ. There will always be another sale...
Leana
I wasn't raggiing on you, sorry if it came across like that.
I only spent about $7 to get the discount.
Marketing people have tickets for the "B-Ark" like hairdressers and telephone sanitizers of Golgafrincham
http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Golgafrincham
A real life example of what to do with B-Ark people: http://infinite-shades.com/2011/02/14/golgafrincham-b-ark-what-to-do-when-you-dont-have-one-handy/
I think the next time I meet a B-Arker I might just slip in "would you like to colonize a distant planet?"... Mostly for my own amusement.
LOL... Isn't that the basis of Capitalism? (Not complaining, merely observing...)
Just remember what actually destroyed Golgafrincham!
Just do the math on what you want and don't want. Chances are that you don't really *need* to buy the two items, because you'll end up paying more for just one item.
It really works out if you're after two or even three items.
That would be awesome.
Pretty sure my average discount is something over 70%
New to CKEditor, can't find preview. Oh well.
Here goes nothing.
Edit: When I reread rampart's comment I realized I'd misunderstood him somewhat.
If it saves you money, take the deal, and if it doesn't: well it's a no brainer. Don't.
I think it's a bad idea buying stuff you don't want in any context, for it sends false signals about what you want. If crap sells, no matter the reason, they just produce more of it.
For the same reason, even if I can get a complete bundle for the same price as the few individual items I want from that bundle, I buy the individual items to send a signal about what I want and what I don't want.
Perhaps it's more subtle. I've heard that people go to Amazon with intent to purchase a specific item. Then spend more time searching for something else to buy (that they originally never wanted) just to meet the purchase requirement for free shipping.
Sometimes there's a "free" item in the Daz store that I want really bad, but if there's nothing in the store I want that week, I'm not going to buy something just to get the item free. In that case, it woud be better to just purchase that "free" item with the 30% off introductory price.
I do it all the time when I shop online so I can get the free shipping on some of the sites I use. just because I live in the middle of no where. For example sometimes I'll order things from walmart such as soap , hardware, clothing etc. . & if I didn't spend the $25 required to get the free shipping , I'll add some other things to my order to get the free shipping. most of the time its stuff I will need shortly or stuff i use all the time so it I don't mind spending a little extra on things I may need later on. to get to save on the shipping.
If you stick to "buy what you like/want/need", then it won't matter. If it happens to be part of a sale, you got lucky. If it's not, you either pass and wait to see if another sale includes your coveted items or you decide to buy now. You are totally in control. No one forces anyone to buy something. I've been in stores where there were tons of things at outrageously good prices, but nothing I liked/wated/needed, so I looked and left, and other times something I might not have bought, except for the sale, peaked my interest enough to purchase. My money, my decisions. I am not controlled by marketing, but if the marketing planets align with my little world, it's just kismet.
Sales are the devil!
(stares at his Orders)
I participate after I analyze what I am actually paying or what I consider a good buy.
Daz does have some pretty good offers on occasion, which is OK.