Baroque building set(s)

Vially · January 7

Name pretty much says it all... anyone know of any Baroque building sets, orset models? Thanks, V

richardandtracy · January 7

Then there is Rococo. I don't really know the difference between Rococo and Baroque as Rococo strikes me as 'Baroque without the painted ceilings' or 'Baroque with Ceilings out of shot'. Can you tell? Take a look here: Rococo Revival.

Regards,

Richard

memcneil70 · January 8

I had to look up the difference too:

AI:

Baroque architecture, originating in late 16th-century Italy, is a highly dramatic, ornate, and theatrical style used by the Catholic Church (Counter-Reformation) and absolute monarchs to inspire awe and display power, characterized by grandeur, rich decoration, complex curves, dynamic interplay of light and shadow, illusionistic ceilings, and the integration of painting, sculpture, and architecture, moving away from Renaissance restraint towards emotional intensity. Key elements include ovals, elaborate facades, gilded details, and colossal scale, seen in works by Bernini and Borromini, spreading from Rome across Europe and the Americas.

Wikipedia:

Rococo architecture, prevalent during the reign of Louis XV in France from 1715 to 1774, is an exceptionally ornamental and exuberant architectural style characterized by the use of rocaille motifs such as shells, curves, mascarons, arabesques, and other classical elements. The Rococo style abandoned the symmetry of earlier Baroque styles like façades, cornices, and pediments, and instead created a flexible and visually engaging style that maintained a level of classical regularity.[1] Light pastel colors, including shades of blue, green, and pink, replaced the darker elements characteristic of Baroque architecture such as exposed limestone and extensive gilding.[2]

The iconography of Rococo architecture, predominantly associated with 18-century Europe, had a considerable influence on various architectural styles globally over subsequent centuries. These styles include Dutch colonial, French colonial, Neoclassical, Greek Revival, Belle Époque, Second Empire, Victorian, Art Deco, and Art Nouveau.

So I will need to do some searching in my runtime for Italian environments of the appropriate period.

memcneil70 · January 8

Here is a list from looking through the store's environment selection which I am not sure is complete. Borgia's Opulent Courtyard Bundle was not listed and I own it and knew it existed, so pulled it up manually. So others might be there as well. Some of the items may not be perfectly baroque, but depending on how you need the items, they may add background layers. Also, I looked at the Aslan Court series and I am just not sure. It is over the top like it might be baroque but I always thought it was it was a trifle Middle Eastern. But how much did trading in the Mediterranean Sea affected the Italian architechs?

https://www.daz3d.com/villa-cimone-courtyard and texture https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-renaissance-plaza

https://www.daz3d.com/renaissance-plaza

https://www.daz3d.com/the-streets-of-tuscany

https://www.daz3d.com/borgia-s-opulent-hall - this came out after the bundle.

https://www.daz3d.com/borgias-opulent-courtyard-bundle

https://www.daz3d.com/venice

https://www.daz3d.com/the-village-courtyard-bundle

https://www.daz3d.com/ponte-maggiore

richardandtracy · January 8

In which case the Linday one, with its symmetry and repeated symbols could probably be considered late Baroque, early Rococo crossover. The baroque features could be emphasised by judicious re-texturing or tinting of the existing textures.

There are relatively few Baroque & Rococo architecture open to the public that I know of in the UK (well, I mean in the National Trust, really, I can get into NT properties for free, so normally only visit NT properties). At the time the UK was embracing the austerity of the Palladian style, much of Europe had left Palladian far behind and was going all out for Baroque and Rococo. Somehow the UK got Baroque first (Blenhim Palace designed by John Vanbrugh and a few other houses), then Rococo for a short time and then went for the earlier Palladian style in a big way.

Regards,

Richard

memcneil70 · January 8

Well, I didn't have the great history classes folks in the UK and Europe had, besides living there, the American teachers barely touched on anything outside our shores. If I understand the progression of the style, it may have started:

1500s (16th C) in Italy - Baroque - reaction to Reformation.

1600s - (17th C) gradually seeped into France; in England there was a Civil War that may have affected/delayed adoption of the excessive royal style.

1700 (18th C) France - Rococo - taken to excess and led to the French Revolution.

Of course Italian artists were known, appreciated, and lived in France as well. Their influence can't be discounted.

Another aspect to the style's adoption might be climate. Italy and France do have milder temperatures than the UK and the larger windows, patios, and expansive rooms might have been easier to live in during a winter. (Although I lived in an essentially unheated flat in Athens Greece for 3.5 years and it got cold. I did have to buy space heaters since the landlord would not turn on the heat we paid for.)

Mary

Vially · January 8

Thanks folks, wasnt expecting a lot, but there are some good stoarts here. Not sure how I might use some of these as they are "sort" of fitting. The one phot set without ceiling shows promise. Maybe I can turn that into some form of building set. Thanks again for the quick reply. V

Leana · January 8

I think Galerie d'Apollon from the Louvre qualifies as an example of French Baroque https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/169750/paris-le-louvre-galerie-apollon-for-daz-studio

Moya has a few baroque-inspired texture sets for some Daz+ sets:

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/145944/der-glockenturm for https://www.daz3d.com/eminence

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/145522/the-cupola for https://www.daz3d.com/divinity-skies-ascension

https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/145451/el-manantial for https://www.daz3d.com/fontaine

This set is quite old but could probably work too: https://www.daz3d.com/the-ballroom-1 with https://www.daz3d.com/the-ballroom-exp-1

There used to be a "Bal à Versailles" expansion for it by Moyra too but it seems she has not released an updated version of that one at Rendo.

Vially · January 8

Thanks Leana, got them wishlisted.

memcneil70 · January 9

Vially, I have The Ballroom series and those still render with excellent results. And as DAZ+ they are very affordable.

Vially · January 9

memcneil70 said:

Vially, I have The Ballroom series and those still render with excellent results. And as DAZ+ they are very affordable.

My biggest issue right now is that my computer is in storage... dont have the hardware to do any scene building right now.

memcneil70 · January 9

Ah, that is hard. I had the greatest ideas when I was moving and traveling and without DAZ. So may I recommend you check out DAZ+ and the older content of environments that came out and their texture sets. Or just look at every PAs' store, checking out what they create, wishlisting what you might use, love, lust for... and when they come up on a deep sale might be able to buy. It also helps you become really familiar with the range each artist creates and what the don't. That doesn't mean they might not expand their range some day. And if you have DAZ Deals, you will be able to see links to Forum threads and see if a comment speaks to it, good, bad, a sale pricing issue, or how to adapt an older item to Iray.

Mary

Vially · January 9

Thats what ibe been doing... really getting the itch to get back in front of it again.

chris-2599934 · January 24

richardandtracy said:

Then there is Rococo. I don't really know the difference between Rococo and Baroque as Rococo

There's a neat explanation here.

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