Terradome 3 is not working.

SeventhRoar666 · October 6

When I load up Terradome 3 in Daz 4.24, all the colors and shaders are completely off. Is there a fix?

Gordig · October 6

Forgive me for such an insultingly basic question, but have you tried adding textures?

memcneil70 · October 6

It has been years since I used TerraDome3 except for the skies but I opened it up this morning to test it out. I am not seeing any issue as I fumble around with the different sets, materials, props, shaders, or render settings. This is on my MacMini M4 and DS 4.24.

Richard Haseltine · October 6

Have you checked the log file for errors just after loading - Help>Troubleshooting>View Log File

SeventhRoar666 · October 6

When I add my textures, they look wrong. They dont look as they did. Deserts look like rocks, and the badlands look wrong too. There is no errors as far as I know.

Richard Haseltine · October 6

That sounds like a tiling issue, if I am picturing the right effect. As I recall there are presets to adjust tiling.

SeventhRoar666 · October 8

Ok, I highly doubt it works, but I can try.

SeventhRoar666 · October 9

it works, i just need to find the correct one. Thanks.

SeventhRoar666 · December 10

I asked the AI, Terradome is broken thanks to Daz4.24, because you changed iray to a new version, seriously, make us be able to download old version of Daz. This makes your product just annoying!

When you break something it's important we have to be able to go back until you fixed it.

Richard Haseltine · December 10

SeventhRoar666 said:

I asked the AI, Terradome is broken thanks to Daz4.24, because you changed iray to a new version, seriously, make us be able to download old version of Daz. This makes your product just annoying!

When you break something it's important we have to be able to go back until you fixed it.

The AI isn't always right, even if you mwan the Victoria AI assistant here. How is it broken?

SeventhRoar666 · December 12

Terradome was effectively broken by newer Iray, even though it’s listed as compatible.

Terradome was built for old Iray behavior (2015–2018) and relied on techniques that modern Iray no longer supports the same way:

Emissive skydomes as primary light
New Iray treats emissive surfaces physically correctly.
Large emissive skies now produce extreme energy, causing clipping, flat lighting, gray skies, and loss of depth.
What used to “look good” is now interpreted as physically wrong.
Stricter tone mapping and albedo rules
Modern Iray clamps highlights harder, enforces gamma, and expects PBR-correct albedo values.
Terradome textures were painted for aesthetics, not physical accuracy, so terrain looks dirty, flat, or dead.
Atmospheric shader hacks stopped working
Terradome used fake haze, gradients, and shader tricks for depth.
Modern Iray handles volumetrics differently, so the illusion of distance collapses.

DAZ “compatible with 4.24” only means:

files load
no crashes
meshes and UVs exist
Iray can render something

It does not mean it will look or behave like it originally did.

Bottom line:
Terradome became obsolete when Iray moved from “artist-forgiving” to “physically strict.”
It’s not user error and not just presets — the underlying assumptions no longer match the renderer.

If you want, I can also give you a 1-paragraph version or a bullet-only ultra-short version.

This is what it says, and yes, it is broken, stone broken. I can't make it work; the colors are wrong. Desert looks like stone, snow looks like dirt. Everything is off, and I am shit scared to buy anything new from your store now because it might be broken too. (Like that bundle I want) 90 dollar pricetag to just find out that your new Iray messed up everything.

All this could be solved if you let us roll back, instead of forcing us to use a new daz that just breaks certain stuff. Because right now I am hesitant as F to buy Enviroments from the store.

felis · December 12

Can you elaborate on which issues you are having.

I have Terradome3, though not used it in ages, and loaded a preset from it.

This is in DS 4.24

SeventhRoar666 · December 12

Load up a desert, then you see what I mean. It does NOT look even remotely close to what it did before.

felis · December 12

I loaded a default desert, and rendered it.

But I found it to redish, so changed the material and some values in the surface settings.

SeventhRoar666 · December 13

There you go, it looks NOT the same. You had to change, tweak, and fix, and it still does not look good. This is from my old computer with Daz 4.22. These are the correct colors.
Now you probably see why I am hesitant to buy any more environment that is expensive. Daz should fix this for real.

WendyLuvsCatz · December 13

I thought that was preference not a fault, in Australia we have deserts red like that

both look fine

but if you cannot alter diffuse values etc easily then there are other issues nobody can help you with

I personally modify everything on environments with shaders so my renders don't look like everyone elses

post an image of what you are seeing and having an issue with on your PC maybe as just text doesn't help

SeventhRoar666 · December 13

It's not about that, I should not need to sit down and fix something for several hours that I bought for like 50 dollars.

It's not about preference either. Terradome is ruined as the AI said, read what it said, and you can see what it said. I don't want to sit down with the environment I bought for like 70 dollars+ for several hours to have something that did not look like what I wanted.

The desserts he showed me were ok, but not what I wanted. I want my Terradome deserts because they fit my characters.

https://www.daz3d.com/daz-monster-environment-bundle?srsltid=AfmBOoqL0jIk-YpVIaEmMy1ZhFWHsBMvcWgTv_VnD1nvs_42eZScygin&utm_source=chatgpt.com

I want this so bad, but how do I know it's not ruined by the new Iray system?

Fine, I will show you all renders, and you can see for yourself that it's broken beoynd fixing. There you go, here is the standard, it needs hours + hours + hours to get remotely decent now.

However, it looks like it's only Terradome that is affected by this. Because it used some form of cheat layer. The other environment is not affected, yet.

WendyLuvsCatz · December 13

well you have a lot in that bundle that work perfectly well with iray

(I own all but 3 of them}

I cannot for the life of me see anything wrong with your renders

I have no idea still what exactly is going on with TD3 for you but the only thing changed in iray was ghost lights and emitter illumination value, neither of which affects TD3

the ai IS WRONG, ai hallucinates and is not something a human with critical thinking ability should rely on, THAT is the huge mistake you are making

IceDragonArt · December 13

SeventhRoar666 said:

It's not about that, I should not need to sit down and fix something for several hours that I bought for like 50 dollars.

It's not about preference either. Terradome is ruined as the AI said, read what it said, and you can see what it said. I don't want to sit down with the environment I bought for like 70 dollars+ for several hours to have something that did not look like what I wanted.

The desserts he showed me were ok, but not what I wanted. I want my Terradome deserts because they fit my characters.

https://www.daz3d.com/daz-monster-environment-bundle?srsltid=AfmBOoqL0jIk-YpVIaEmMy1ZhFWHsBMvcWgTv_VnD1nvs_42eZScygin&utm_source=chatgpt.com

I want this so bad, but how do I know it's not ruined by the new Iray system?

Fine, I will show you all renders, and you can see for yourself that it's broken beoynd fixing. There you go, here is the standard, it needs hours + hours + hours to get remotely decent now.

However, it looks like it's only Terradome that is affected by this. Because it used some form of cheat layer. The other environment is not affected, yet.

My terradome works just fine in 4.24 Most of what you seem to be looking for is a tiling issue. Super easy to change. If you change the tiling to something a bit smaller you may find that it more suits what you are aiming for. And AI doesn't know anything. You can ask it the same thing 3 days in a row and get a different answer each time. And if you are unwilling to play around with settings in Daz Studio, you are probably going to be very disappointed by a lot of things.

I'm also going to point out that no matter how frustrated you are, being rude to people trying to help you is not going to help. And if you are going to be rude, and not even try what people are suggesting, then you are most likely going to continue to be frustrated. And people will no longer be willing to help.

SeventhRoar666 · December 13

IceDragonArt said:

SeventhRoar666 said:

It's not about that, I should not need to sit down and fix something for several hours that I bought for like 50 dollars.

It's not about preference either. Terradome is ruined as the AI said, read what it said, and you can see what it said. I don't want to sit down with the environment I bought for like 70 dollars+ for several hours to have something that did not look like what I wanted.

The desserts he showed me were ok, but not what I wanted. I want my Terradome deserts because they fit my characters.

https://www.daz3d.com/daz-monster-environment-bundle?srsltid=AfmBOoqL0jIk-YpVIaEmMy1ZhFWHsBMvcWgTv_VnD1nvs_42eZScygin&utm_source=chatgpt.com

I want this so bad, but how do I know it's not ruined by the new Iray system?

Fine, I will show you all renders, and you can see for yourself that it's broken beoynd fixing. There you go, here is the standard, it needs hours + hours + hours to get remotely decent now.

However, it looks like it's only Terradome that is affected by this. Because it used some form of cheat layer. The other environment is not affected, yet.

My terradome works just fine in 4.24 Most of what you seem to be looking for is a tiling issue. Super easy to change. If you change the tiling to something a bit smaller you may find that it more suits what you are aiming for. And AI doesn't know anything. You can ask it the same thing 3 days in a row and get a different answer each time. And if you are unwilling to play around with settings in Daz Studio, you are probably going to be very disappointed by a lot of things.

I'm also going to point out that no matter how frustrated you are, being rude to people trying to help you is not going to help. And if you are going to be rude, and not even try what people are suggesting, then you are most likely going to continue to be frustrated. And people will no longer be willing to help."

I have already tried the tiling, but ok, show me this in your render. Please, in 4.24. Same style. (What's ticking me off is when people who have no idea about the situation say I am wrong, when I'm not wrong, but yes, I need to calm down, you're right)

So, If you can do this, I just showed you, I will say I am wrong and apologize to everyone and admit the AI is wrong, if you can with tiling do this. (This is standard material from the old working Terradome) No tweaks, just normal mats.

I spent like 80 usd on this, so i am a bit frustrated if you understand why. Because when Terradome broke, also the other addons broke with it.

WendyLuvsCatz · December 13

I admit I don't know what is causing your issue

but

I do know it is NOT D|S4.24

the Ai is telling you that and you are believing it and the Ai is wrong

it could be a myriad of other issues but the build of DAZ studio is not the issue

I don't really use TD3 much myself as I use Carrara, Twinmotion and Unreal Engine mostly for terrains so don't pretend to know a lot

only that the change in iray only affected lighting

DISCLAIMER

I am not an ai hater, it is an agnostic tool

I do use it

but it has limitations and one cannot rely on it, it can only work with the parameters of the data it was trained on and much of that data is false because it is trawled from the Worldwide web and a lot of stuff on the web is untrue

SeventhRoar666 · December 13

Yes, but in this case, it is broken, as you can see, none of you can show me the original materials in 4.24. Not even close, no offense, I just got ticked off when you said I was wrong. I'm not. It is daz 4.24, before you can show me proof that you can do the same pictures as i showed you. (That's base, it's not even tweak) Then sorry, you are with 99% wrong.

But the pack that I wanted to buy, I took the chance and the Iray render that they upgraded did not mess up that one, so it's safe.

IceDragonArt · December 13

This is all I have time for right now, we are doing Christmas with my family today. I will do some different ones later when I have time. This is straight out of the box, nothing changed

Richard Haseltine · December 13

Please keep the discussion civil, and on the topic of the product not other people.

SeventhRoar666 · December 13

You're right, but seriously, Richard, how are you planning to fix this? (I hope you are part of the Daz team) I mean, should I ask for a refund? Because it's broken. It's not working anymore. In theory, yes, you can tweak it, but it's not the same, not even close, so what do you suggest I should do?

frank0314 · December 13

SeventhRoar666 said:

You're right, but seriously, Richard, how are you planning to fix this? (I hope you are part of the Daz team) I mean, should I ask for a refund? Because it's broken. It's not working anymore. In theory, yes, you can tweak it, but it's not the same, not even close, so what do you suggest I should do?

We are moderators, and not part of Tech support. A lot of info needs to be included in the ticket system You will need to submit a ticket to report the issue you're having as well if you want a refund.

SeventhRoar666 · December 13

I see, thanks, I guess i have to do that then. Nope, i just remember, the skies from Terradome are still godly, so No, I'm staying with it. But you should warn buyers that it's not working correctly in 4.24.

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