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FeSoul Hair G8 compatibility

Xeni88Xeni88 Posts: 34
edited November 2025 in The Commons

Dear @FeSoul

I love your hair products and I already bought a huge collections of your products but sorry I've have to rant. I noticed that your newer hair products (like https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-2-in-1-braided-style-bob-hair-for-genesis-98-and-81, https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-half-up-ponytail-hair-for-genesis-9-8-and-81, https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-wet-wave-hair-for-genesis-98-and-81 etc) have both G8 and G9 compatilibty. Then there are some that are exclusively only compatible with G9. This constant inconsistency is frustrating! Ideally I would prefer you launch all your hair products with G8 compatiblity because G9 hair never works well with G8 characters despite using all tricks. I already have two products https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-fe-elegant-wave-long-hair-for-genesis-9 and https://www.daz3d.com/fe-soft-wave-long-hair-for-genesis-9. They both are nightware to make work with G8 characters. So, it is my humble request to add "G8 compatibility" to all your older G9 hair releases, PLEASE!!

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  • jdavison67jdavison67 Posts: 690

    I second that request... I avoid all G9 hair for this reason.

  • Xeni88Xeni88 Posts: 34
    edited November 2025

    jdavison67 said:

    I second that request... I avoid all G9 hair for this reason.

    Same. I've stoppped buying exclusive G9 hair 

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,297
    edited November 2025

    Basically it's dForce strand based hairs that don't convert well.  FE has actually many G9 only mesh hairs that convert fine using autofit, even the morphs are preserved. The Soft Wave Long Hair you say you can't get to work, works fine for me, so maybe you're doing something wrong.  Here's a render of the Soft Wave Long Hair as well as several other G9 only FE mesh hairs I've tested. 

    I do agree that it would be nice if all strand based dForce versions from all PAs also had G8 versions, but maybe there are too few G8 users these days to make it economically viable.  Other PAs have also started phasing out G8 compability.

     

     

     

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  • Xeni88Xeni88 Posts: 34
    edited November 2025

    Taoz said:

    Basically it's dForce strand based hairs that don't convert well.  FE has actually many G9 only mesh hairs that convert fine using autofit, even the morphs are preserved. The Soft Wave Long Hair you say you can get to work, works fine for me, so maybe you're doing something wrong.  Here's a render of the Soft Wave Long Hair as well as several other G9 only FE mesh hairs I've tested. 

    I do agree that it would be nice if all strand based dForce versions from all PAs also had G8 versions, but maybe there are too few G8 users these days to make it economically viable.  Other PAs have also started phasing out G8 compability.

     

     

     

    I am a heavy G8 user. Non-dforce hair generally is easy to convert with few exceptions where material presets don't work that well for converted G9 hair. But the converted G9 "dforce hair" is the biggest challenge. I am aware of the tricks but it is not full proof method. Some conversion don't convert scalp materials whereas majority of dforce conversion simply makes the dforce unusable. Having said that all these issues just adds extra headache and interrupts workflow. Would be best if PAs offered both options in the product release.

    The appetite for G8 products is still very high which is why now more and more PAs are offering combo G8 and G9 options for new relases again. They tried to phase out G8 products but I guess there aren't lot of buyers for exclusive G9 products (clothes and accesories are exception)

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  • Silas3DSilas3D Posts: 794
    If there was an easy way to make strand based hair for G9 work with G8, with minimal to no manual tweaking, would that interest you? I have an idea for a product and just need to do some testing to verify it works :)
  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,527

    Silas3D said:

    If there was an easy way to make strand based hair for G9 work with G8, with minimal to no manual tweaking, would that interest you? I have an idea for a product and just need to do some testing to verify it works :)

    It would interest me, for sure, I'd love something that does this reliably! 

  • felisfelis Posts: 6,123

    I position, scale and parent hair, but if there is a better way I am interested.

  • Xeni88Xeni88 Posts: 34
    edited November 2025

    Silas3D said:

    If there was an easy way to make strand based hair for G9 work with G8, with minimal to no manual tweaking, would that interest you? I have an idea for a product and just need to do some testing to verify it works :)

    If it can make all dforce G9 strand hair work on G8 with little to no work then I am defintely interested. Bonus points if you can make the scalp maps/materials work as well including color presets

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  • Xeni88Xeni88 Posts: 34
    @Silas3D I'll add one more request to the wishlist. For some non-dforce hair after G9 to G8 conversion, morphs are rendered unusable. I've no idea why because it works in some and it doesn't work in others even if it's same PA. Would really appreciate if you can address that!
  • Silas3DSilas3D Posts: 794
    Ok doke, I'm juggling a few projects at the moment but I'll be sure to invest some time into testing and will report back in due course :)
  • Fesoul TeamFesoul Team Posts: 27

    Xeni88 said:

    Dear @FeSoul

    I love your hair products and I already bought a huge collections of your products but sorry I've have to rant. I noticed that your newer hair products (like https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-2-in-1-braided-style-bob-hair-for-genesis-98-and-81, https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-half-up-ponytail-hair-for-genesis-9-8-and-81, https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-wet-wave-hair-for-genesis-98-and-81 etc) have both G8 and G9 compatilibty. Then there are some that are exclusively only compatible with G9. This constant inconsistency is frustrating! Ideally I would prefer you launch all your hair products with G8 compatiblity because G9 hair never works well with G8 characters despite using all tricks. I already have two products https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-fe-elegant-wave-long-hair-for-genesis-9 and https://www.daz3d.com/fe-soft-wave-long-hair-for-genesis-9. They both are nightware to make work with G8 characters. So, it is my humble request to add "G8 compatibility" to all your older G9 hair releases, PLEASE!!

    I've been busy with work lately and haven't seen the forum updates. Regarding the demand for the 8 series, we've recently added support for the 8, 8.1, and 9 series to some products. Hopefully, they won't be too late.

    Additionally, adding 8 or 8.1 to older versions actually requires remaking the models or characters based on the 8 series. Considering cost, our best approach is to generally apply 8, 8.1, and 9 to the development of new hairstyles. We hope our future efforts will be helpful.

    Finally, a small suggestion: when purchasing products, we usually indicate whether the product is compatible with 8, 8.1, and 9. If you are a heavy user of the 8 series, please try to choose products that include the corresponding number to effectively avoid compatibility issues caused by different series.

     

  • Fesoul TeamFesoul Team Posts: 27
    edited December 2025

    I posted an extra message. I hope the administrator sees this and can help delete it. Thank you!

    Merry Christmas everyone!

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  • Xeni88Xeni88 Posts: 34
    edited December 2025

    Fesoul Team said:

    Xeni88 said:

    Dear @FeSoul

    I love your hair products and I already bought a huge collections of your products but sorry I've have to rant. I noticed that your newer hair products (like https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-2-in-1-braided-style-bob-hair-for-genesis-98-and-81, https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-half-up-ponytail-hair-for-genesis-9-8-and-81, https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-strand-based-fe-wet-wave-hair-for-genesis-98-and-81 etc) have both G8 and G9 compatilibty. Then there are some that are exclusively only compatible with G9. This constant inconsistency is frustrating! Ideally I would prefer you launch all your hair products with G8 compatiblity because G9 hair never works well with G8 characters despite using all tricks. I already have two products https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-fe-elegant-wave-long-hair-for-genesis-9 and https://www.daz3d.com/fe-soft-wave-long-hair-for-genesis-9. They both are nightware to make work with G8 characters. So, it is my humble request to add "G8 compatibility" to all your older G9 hair releases, PLEASE!!

    I've been busy with work lately and haven't seen the forum updates. Regarding the demand for the 8 series, we've recently added support for the 8, 8.1, and 9 series to some products. Hopefully, they won't be too late.

    Additionally, adding 8 or 8.1 to older versions actually requires remaking the models or characters based on the 8 series. Considering cost, our best approach is to generally apply 8, 8.1, and 9 to the development of new hairstyles. We hope our future efforts will be helpful.

    Finally, a small suggestion: when purchasing products, we usually indicate whether the product is compatible with 8, 8.1, and 9. If you are a heavy user of the 8 series, please try to choose products that include the corresponding number to effectively avoid compatibility issues caused by different series.

     

    @FeSoul A lot of your older exclusive G9 hair are one of your best top notch releases. In fact, I would be willing to buy more of those hairs if you were to add G8/8.1 compatbiliy. As evidently you might have noticed, there is higher appetite for G8 and G9 combo products. You would certainly get more buyers if you did that even for your older products. Not adding G8 compatiblity will keep those buyers away. Respectfully, I hope you would reconsider that decision. Merry Christmas to you and your team!

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