Daz Studio 4.9 Beta Now Available..
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If you have a file, that you own, and is required for something else to work, and you haven't downloaded it, then you will be offered the choice to connect and download it.
People lockup their houses when they go out to provide themselves with the comforting ILLUSION, that their property and its contents are secure. But the reality is, if the thief wants the contents badly enough they will get them regardless.!!
S.K.
Presuming it hasn't changed, the plan is to have a way to do that before release, without a need to redownload your content.
I don't want content on my boot drive, encrypted or not! I didn't buy a 1 TB SSD for 3D art just to have DAZ store encrypted content in the My Library folder.
The first think I do after installing a new version of DAZ - or occasionally re-install the current version for one reason or another - is delete everything associated with DAZ from the My Library folder. I keep the program and all of my content on a seperate drive.
My 'My Library' folder is on D drive. You move it via the program or the install manager - I forget which exactly, but it's easy to do.
I've been using Windows since v3.1, and I did not know you could that. Thanks for that excellent tip.
It doesn't solve my principle issue with DAZ Connect and Smart Content though.
You just move your content folder by hand and enter the location within DIM. It doesn't mess anything up so everything will still work as designed.
That is what I figured. Which means its the exact same issue I currently have and has not been fixed.
With DAZ Connect I will need to go onto the internet. Then download the missing peice.
Currently I flip over to DIM. Locate the installer and install.
One works right now in any circumstance. The other requires an internet connection.
Same problem, not resolved, just more crippling than my current solution.
What I am asking for is the new system to already know that "geometry file xxxxx" isn't included with xxxx installer. Then to automatically download it at the get go. That doesn't seem like too much to ask.
The current solution that you describe doesn't remedy the problem. It ignores it, compounds it and then hides it.
Note that "My Documents" or "Public Documents" or any of those folders do not have to be on the C Drive. (And have never been required to be there since they were first introduced by Windows.) They can be mapped to other locations.
I'm sure that works beautifully with existing content. It won't work with DAZ Connect-exclusive content because we won't be able to see the underlying folder structure.
I was just trying to answer the other half of the question, and problem, which you brought up. Sorry for the confusion. There are times when a customer purchases a product which requires another product, and they don't realize it. (Occurs most often with texture add-ons.) Or they install some of their content for space reasons and not all of it.
In both of those cases, because they don't have everything needed to use something, they are now prompted to fix the problem instead of just erroring out.
Wait a minute... Does this mean that DS 4.9 requires the downloaded content to be in the My Documents directory?
And that to have it not be there I have it not on my C drive I have to move the "My Documents" directory in Windows?
No, you can put your library wherever you want (or call it whtever you want etc as long as you set Install manager to know where the content folder is.) It just happens to be in My Documents (or some variation of that) by default iirc.
The point was that Windows has never forced you to use C drive for your documents, nor has Daz Studio. They're just defaults.
No. That is not the problem.
The problem is "DS" files that also require a handful of files from a Poser only install package.
I run into it at least a few times a month... Souless Empathy's Strange Cave (though it could be the Room of Books, I don't remember exactly) is a perfect example. There are model files that are only in the Poser installer. While the texture files are in the DS installer. And a couple of the Props (the water I believe) is in the DS 4.5 installer.
I am not referring to DIM. I am referring to DS 4.9.
I decided to install the beta and look. I never had the chance to tell it a directory to go to. I didn't think I needed to.
After reading the previous post, I went looking and found that now I have this directory:
C:\Users\Jason\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\data\cloud
So now my question is... What do I do to make sure 4.9 does not download all of these cloud files into my C drive. Without have to muck with my OS and move my "My Documents" directory.
My bad, it's not in DIM, it's in Daz itself.
Open Daz Studio, go to Edit>Preferences, then Content Library tab, and click the Content Directory button.
You should see a window showing current directories, which you can expand to show Daz Studio content folders, which should expand to show your My Library folder and the DIM folder. You can change and add as many folders as you like in this section to tell Daz where your content is. I believe the cloud data is currently going into the topmost one, or it may go to My Library always (I'm not sure) but I know for a fact that my My Library has been set to another drive for a long time and 4.9 was perfectly happy to start storing content there automatically.
I believe that we are talking Apples and Oranges.
The directory I referenced: C:\Users\Jason\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\data\cloud
Is, I presume, the directory where 4.9 will put the files that it downloads through DAZ Connect. I do not see an option to change that.
And that is handled by Daz Connect. (As I previously stated.) I was simply expanding on the answer, with the other, unasked, half of the question. As that problem also occurs and is related.
the data/cloud folder is automatically created in either My Library or your topmost folder in the directory manager I mentioned. It's not hard coded to that C drive location. Move that My Library folder and tell daz where you moved it to in the content directory manager, and the cloud folder will move with it.
I give up. I am not going to argue with you anymore. The problem is not fixed with DAZ Connect. It's worse. All I was asking was that all these inconsistent file types and abandoned formats be cleaned up during this exercise. That's not going to happen, fine. I will continue with my home grown solution.
No, that is not what I said, or what I meant to imply. Sorry if I confused you. If you want to handle the transfer within Windows you can. There is no requirement to do so.
The download location is specified (DIM) as is the install location (DIM and Daz Connect) by the customer if they do not wish to use the default locations.
That issue's actually more common in older packages. The reason is that the DS package was effectively an add-on (usualy a texture/materials optimization) for the Poser package. In D|S 0.n (the original betas in '05, when I started with it) all the way through DS3 I'd say, the user was limited to about two basic formats: the scene .DAZ file, the only way DS saved anything with mesh data aside from an OBJ export, or the various iterations of DAZ|Studio script files (.DS, .DSA, .DSB, .DSE). The primary content format for the first few years and iterations of Daz Studio (or, if you will, DAZ|Studio) was the Poser format, which didn't displace the previous scene by default like adding a new .DAZ scene did. Check the creation date of your product.
It is happening with Daz Connect. You are only going to get the files you need for Daz Studio. If that means Poser files and Daz Studio Companion files, that is what you get. If it means Daz Studio content only, because Daz Studio and Poser each have standalone installs then you get the Daz Studio files only. If that means a choice between the DS 4.0 and earlier "Legacy" files and the DS 4.5 or later files, you get the DS 4.5 files. No guess work, for each product you get what you need to use the product.
Precisely. Which was why I was asking if this could be looked at and standardized as a part of this exercise. I am just asking for the loop to be closed so that we can build from a stable foundation. Instead of compounding the problem with another layer of confusion.
Full disclosure. I am going to test this when I get home.
I am going to use it just like I would if I was on the road and without a internet connection.
I am going to start from a clean empty library. Have DAZ Connect install some of the known problem packages.
Then I am going to disconnect my internet and empty to use those items.
If I receive the errors that I expect to receive (i.e. texture xxx is missing, geometry xxx is missing, etc.) I swear I am going to come unhinged.
Likely suspects: anything related to the Millenium Environment props, any of Souless Empathy's props, DAZ Horse 1, etc.
Not so much Gozilla as either a network that's down for an extended period of time due to (insert issue here) or worse a prolonged DDOS attack.
Why I don't use Smart Content example:
After updating my meta data (a 350 MB download) I have a folder called "Lost and Found."
In Lost and Found there are 580 items at the top level. There are also about 100+ subdirectories.
Please tell me that this is something that you are working on.
(And Eustace you were correct. When I redirected the Content Library in 4.9, the cloud directory was created in my normal library.)
That would be indicative of missing files in the packaged content, not of a core issue with the concept of DAZ Connect.
Yes. Being packaged incorrectly.
And I was able to test it here. No errors. Because none of those items appear in DAZ Connect. Apparently Poser items are not listed?