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Which DS Render Settings to get the same effect as in Blender?

yuyu.atemyuyu.atem Posts: 469
edited November 3 in The Commons

Hi! I created a HDRI with Vue, and when I load it into Blender (as well Cycle as Eevee), I get exactly what I want. However, in DS, it's much too bright, it's so bright that it becomes difficult to see some part of the HDRI. I tried to fix it by changing the tone mapping and environnement seetings (especially the exposure value, the evironnement map strenght en the environnment intensity), and I could improve it, but I couldn't obtain exactly the same effect as in Blender.

In Blender, I just loaded my HDRI without changing anything to the default settings. So, I would like to ask you some advice: is there "a trick" or some strategic values to use in DS to get the same effect as in Blender? Thank you in advance!

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,304

    In which format you have this HDRI?

    I have quickly tested opening HDRI file in .EXR format in Daz Studio and it works ok.

    I would suggest to use any of HDRIs created for Daz Studio as a base and just open your own file in Environment Map

    in Environment Options.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,304
    edited November 3

    I have used as a base:
    https://www.daz3d.com/im-empty-park-16k-hdris
    The render with one of the maps included in it:


    The other render with .EXR map replaced:

    hdri01pic01.jpg
    1920 x 1080 - 934K
    hdri02pic01.jpg
    1920 x 1080 - 771K
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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,304
    edited November 3

    Another example, with different .EXR file:

     

    hdri05pic02.jpg
    1920 x 1080 - 459K
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  • yuyu.atemyuyu.atem Posts: 469
    edited November 4

    Thank you very much! I am using a .0hdr format because I got some transparency issues when I tried to create my HDRI into a .exr format (I didn't understand why). To import my HDRI into DS, I simply started from the default Ruins HDRI, that automatically appears when I compute a render without environnement in my scene:

     

    Then, I loaded my .hdr file into the the environnement map.

    I alreadu did that for HDRI that I bought on Renderosity (for example: the Milkyway HDRI (https://www.renderosity.com/marketplace/products/156095/milky-way-16k-hdris) and also the 2 MOUNTAIN HDRI (https://www.renderosity.com/freestuff/items/83244/2-mountain-hdri)), and I never got any brightness issue. Just for the first mountain of the 2 MOUNTAIN HDRI, I needed to decrease the environnement map strength to 1 rather tha 2, but beside that, I didn't need to change anything.

    However, for the HDRI that I created with Vue, the Ruins HDRI settings don't work; here is a comparison of what I obtain in Blender and in DS with the Ruins HDRI settings:

    By changing the environnemnt map strength and the tone mapping, I could improve that a little bit, but I'd never got the same effect as in Blender... Could it be due to the fact that I use Vue to create my HDRI? Since t's a HDRI, I turned off the Vue ray tracing and tone mapping to create it. I also tried with the Vue tone mapping turned on, but there is still this brightness issue...

    On another hand, since it's a desert, it maybe normal for the environnement to be bright, but since the effect is completly different in Blender, I wonder if I made a mistake somewhere...

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,304

    Blender uses different render engines than iray, so it is not so easy to get the same results.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,304
    edited November 5

    Have you tried to play with Tonemapper Options in Daz Studio?

    You can adjust brightness and the other parameters there.

    TonemapperOptions01.jpg
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  • yuyu.atemyuyu.atem Posts: 469

    I did it from the Render Settings pane, but yes, it improved to result, but I'd never got the same effect as in Blender. Since it's the first time that I create a HDRI, it's difficult to know if it's just normal due to the difference Daz/Blender or if I made an error when I created my HDRI... Especially because I didn't find any tutorial explaining how to process...

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,304

    Maybe try to figure out how to export EXR files from Blender:
    Multilayer EXR sequences in Blender: Exporting and Compositing tip

    Why Your EXR Renders Look Wrong: Blender Color Management Explained!

     

  • yuyu.atemyuyu.atem Posts: 469

    Thank you very much! laugh

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