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Are These Priest Outfits for any Specific Denomination?

FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,219
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Are These Priest Outfits for any Specific Denomination?  Are are they generic - as in, they aren't for any specific denomination, or they are for no denomination?

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-priest-outfit-for-genesis-9

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-priest-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

https://www.daz3d.com/classic-vicar-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

Thanks!

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,772

    They aren't specific for any Christian demomination; at the priest level, pretty much every church that have clerical garb wear the same clothing (see a vendor like Almy.com to see how they aren't sorted by demomination). This changes in two circumstances: the first is rank since Catholic and Episcopal bishops wear special garb, and brothers, nuns, and abbots have their own special clothes.  The other circumstance are the rainment worn doing a mass or sermon and pentacostal rainment.  What is odd is that those 3d garments are kind of dated; in general, you don't see priests wearing such clothes from day to day.

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 2,219

    nemesis10 said:

    They aren't specific for any Christian demomination; at the priest level, pretty much every church that have clerical garb wear the same clothing (see a vendor like Almy.com to see how they aren't sorted by demomination). This changes in two circumstances: the first is rank since Catholic and Episcopal bishops wear special garb, and brothers, nuns, and abbots have their own special clothes.  The other circumstance are the rainment worn doing a mass or sermon and pentacostal rainment.  What is odd is that those 3d garments are kind of dated; in general, you don't see priests wearing such clothes from day to day.

    Thank you for putting my mind at ease.  I have a lot of priests as connections on Instagram and they seem to wear clerical clothing that is depenant on the place in the world they are living. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,048

    it varies a lot

    I used to be Lutheran and our pastor would only frock up for church 

    and the garments worn over the years actually became more traditional as time went on

    adding a hood (folded down) a knotted cord around the waist looking more "Medieval"

    before the liturgical garments where more choir like

    I  have seen some Eastern denominations walking the streets in their long robe looking like Santa Claus or Gandalf with their long beards

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,772

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    it varies a lot

    I used to be Lutheran and our pastor would only frock up for church 

    and the garments worn over the years actually became more traditional as time went on

    adding a hood (folded down) a knotted cord around the waist looking more "Medieval"

    before the liturgical garments where more choir like

    I  have seen some Eastern denominations walking the streets in their long robe looking like Santa Claus or Gandalf with their long beards

    It definitely varies a lot.  In my elementary school, I remember the nuns going from Sister Thomas and Sister Michael with heavy black habits to Sister Joan and Sister Marsha in regular conventional women's wear in the 60's (ah, Vatican II!). However, those products that Fauvist pointed out are simultaneously non controversial and a touch dated.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113
    edited October 30

    A few comments about them, from a parochial UK English view - do apologise, I don't know what applies for the Church of Scotland or Ireland in NI.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-priest-outfit-for-genesis-9: Most likely to be Roman Catholic if UK based. I have rarely seen Church of England vicars wearing a semi-cape like that, and then only at High Church Parishes. All the Roman Catholic Vicars I have seen have worn them.

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-priest-outfit-for-genesis-8-males. Could be Church of England or Roman Catholic style, however the button side is gendered for women, which absolutely excludes Roman Catholic vicars and so can only be Church of England.

    https://www.daz3d.com/classic-vicar-outfit-for-genesis-8-males Church of England or Roman Catholic. My wife used a top like that yesterday when she conducted a funeral. However, she uses the gendered button side for women's clothes. I have never seen a Church of England Vicar use a hat of the shape shown, so put the hat on & I'd suggest only Roman Catholic.

    For info: The 'Church of England' is an 'Episcopal' church, and what I have said may apply to other Episcopal churches, but I have no certain knowledge of this.

    Hope that helps.

    Richard

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  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037

    Fauvist said:

    Are These Priest Outfits for any Specific Denomination?  Are are they generic - as in, they aren't for any specific denomination, or they are for no denomination?

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-priest-outfit-for-genesis-9

    https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-priest-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

    https://www.daz3d.com/classic-vicar-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

    Thanks!

    For some Variations In Faith You can also check "the other shop" for the products of Cybertenko or powerage - I really like that red "Nobody expects The Inquisition" style outfit.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    Linguistically, traditionally, Vicar is Church of England, Priest is Catholic, Preacher is Protestant, I am not sure of Eastern Orthodox (I think Priest) and other subsects. Those are common US English usages though.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,945
    edited October 30

    nonesuch00 said:

    Linguistically, traditionally, Vicar is Church of England,

    the Pope is the "Vicar of Christ" - Vicar is a Latin/Roman term for a person acting in lieu of another (same root as vicarious)

    Priest is Catholic, Preacher is Protestant, I am not sure of Eastern Orthodox (I think Priest) and other subsects. Those are common US English usages though.

    Parish Priest would be used for the person in charge of a parish as a generic term in the CofE, at least, since not all would actually have the same title in the hierarchy. Preacher may well be fairly specific though, but would it refer to the local church leader or to a specific role within the local church?

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,327

    Richard Haseltine said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Linguistically, traditionally, Vicar is Church of England,

    the Pope is the "Vicar of Christ" - Vicar is a Latin/Roman term for a person acting in lieu of another (same root as vicarious)

    Also the meaning of "anti:" from Latin anti-, from Greek anti (prep.) "over, against, opposite; instead, in the place of; as good as; at the price of; for the sake of

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722
    edited October 30

    Richard Haseltine said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Linguistically, traditionally, Vicar is Church of England,

    the Pope is the "Vicar of Christ" - Vicar is a Latin/Roman term for a person acting in lieu of another (same root as vicarious)

    Priest is Catholic, Preacher is Protestant, I am not sure of Eastern Orthodox (I think Priest) and other subsects. Those are common US English usages though.

    Parish Priest would be used for the person in charge of a parish as a generic term in the CofE, at least, since not all would actually have the same title in the hierarchy. Preacher may well be fairly specific though, but would it refer to the local church leader or to a specific role within the local church?

    OK, thanks, that's very interesting. So the guy I saw at Westminster Abbey is a Parish Priest? He was teaching the choir.

    As for your question about Preacher I've only heard it in reference to the local preacher at protestant churches in the USA. The local Catholic priests are just called priests. In the USA protestant preachers are mostly like volunteer firemen for most local churches, no, or not much, money is involved.

    About all I learned, whatever sect church I visited, don't eat the crackers or drink the grape juice if you ain't an adult. laugh 

    Post edited by nonesuch00 on
  • csaacsaa Posts: 931

    nonesuch00 said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Linguistically, traditionally, Vicar is Church of England,

    the Pope is the "Vicar of Christ" - Vicar is a Latin/Roman term for a person acting in lieu of another (same root as vicarious)

    Priest is Catholic, Preacher is Protestant, I am not sure of Eastern Orthodox (I think Priest) and other subsects. Those are common US English usages though.

    Parish Priest would be used for the person in charge of a parish as a generic term in the CofE, at least, since not all would actually have the same title in the hierarchy. Preacher may well be fairly specific though, but would it refer to the local church leader or to a specific role within the local church?

    OK, thanks, that's very interesting. So the guy I saw at Westminster Abbey is a Parish Priest? He was teaching the choir.

    As for your question about Preacher I've only heard it in reference to the local preacher at protestant churches in the USA. The local Catholic priests are just called priests. In the USA protestant preachers are mostly like volunteer firemen for most local churches, no, or not much, money is involved.

    About all I learned, whatever sect church I visited, don't eat the crackers or drink the grape juice if you ain't an adult. laugh 

     

    Ho ho! Lot's of p-words here.

    The Vicar of Christ is also known as Pontifex (as a 'bridge-builder', same Latin root as pontoon I suppose). Pacem et Terris! laugh

    There a few more titles at the bishop and arch-bishop roles for the Catholic church: prelate and primate. Also in some parts of the US, a priest is also called 'Padre'. I just prefer the generic honorific 'Father' which sort of works in all situations.

    Cheers!

  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 2,404

    @nonesuch00, actually many/most Protestant ministers/pastors in the USA get paid, often including being provided a home (parsonage) owned by the church they serve. Depending on the denomination, pastors are hired by either the individual congregation or the governing body of that denomination. 

    In the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (aka LDS Church, Mormons), Bishops (equivalent of pastor/minister), who lead a ward (congregation) aren't paid but have another paying job.

    (I've belonged to Baptist, Methodist & Presbyterian churches, and we have Mormon friends.)

  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,903

    nonesuch00 said:

    OK, thanks, that's very interesting. So the guy I saw at Westminster Abbey is a Parish Priest? He was teaching the choir.

    The Organist and Master of the Choristers at Westminster Abbey, if that's who you saw, isn't a clergyman at all - he's a professional musician. You're probably not going to see many parish priests in abbeys or cathedrals, they're out running their own individual churches.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    chris-2599934 said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    OK, thanks, that's very interesting. So the guy I saw at Westminster Abbey is a Parish Priest? He was teaching the choir.

    The Organist and Master of the Choristers at Westminster Abbey, if that's who you saw, isn't a clergyman at all - he's a professional musician. You're probably not going to see many parish priests in abbeys or cathedrals, they're out running their own individual churches.

     

    OK I took that fancy red and white uniform he was wearing as a priest uniform. The choir had similar but not as ornate.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,722

    csaa said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    nonesuch00 said:

    Linguistically, traditionally, Vicar is Church of England,

    the Pope is the "Vicar of Christ" - Vicar is a Latin/Roman term for a person acting in lieu of another (same root as vicarious)

    Priest is Catholic, Preacher is Protestant, I am not sure of Eastern Orthodox (I think Priest) and other subsects. Those are common US English usages though.

    Parish Priest would be used for the person in charge of a parish as a generic term in the CofE, at least, since not all would actually have the same title in the hierarchy. Preacher may well be fairly specific though, but would it refer to the local church leader or to a specific role within the local church?

    OK, thanks, that's very interesting. So the guy I saw at Westminster Abbey is a Parish Priest? He was teaching the choir.

    As for your question about Preacher I've only heard it in reference to the local preacher at protestant churches in the USA. The local Catholic priests are just called priests. In the USA protestant preachers are mostly like volunteer firemen for most local churches, no, or not much, money is involved.

    About all I learned, whatever sect church I visited, don't eat the crackers or drink the grape juice if you ain't an adult. laugh 

     

    Ho ho! Lot's of p-words here.

    The Vicar of Christ is also known as Pontifex (as a 'bridge-builder', same Latin root as pontoon I suppose). Pacem et Terris! laugh

    There a few more titles at the bishop and arch-bishop roles for the Catholic church: prelate and primate. Also in some parts of the US, a priest is also called 'Padre'. I just prefer the generic honorific 'Father' which sort of works in all situations.

    Cheers!

    OMG! Thanks. No wonder I stopped paying attention after the crackers anf grape juice. Football is not so complicated.

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