Promo Image Contents

StareagleStareagle Posts: 12
edited October 22 in The Commons

This is more of a request than a discussion. Please, please disclose the names of characters and other models used in your promo images. I often see a hair model, for example, and would like to buy the character used in the poromo image to model that hair item, but I cannot find it. This would be extremely useful to me and to others, I believe.

Post edited by Richard Haseltine on

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,945

    Moved to the Commons as it is not a Daz Studio application topic. There are, however, many other threads on this topic already.

  • joannajoanna Posts: 2,211
    edited October 22

    Stareagle said:

    This is more of a request than a discussion. Please, please disclose the names of characters and other models used in your promo images. I often see a hair model, for example, and would like to buy the character used in the poromo image to model that hair item, but I cannot find it. This would be extremely useful to me and to others, I believe.

    As Richard Haseltine said, there have been plenty of discussions about listing items in the promo pictures already.

    To sum it up: it's not as easy as you think, because (copying my response from another thread):

    • the product is not available on Daz
    • the product is a private custom and not available for sale anywhere else
    • the product is heavily kitbashed and retextured and is not representative of what might be for sale
    • the PA did not make their own promo images
    • the PA did make their promo images months earlier and they don't remember what they used

    You can ask on the forums for a specific product, and people will answer if they recognize something. Sometimes a PA shares their percentage sliders too if it's a custom made but achievable through other figures. So you might have something like "Victoria 3%, Van Helsing 15%, Olivia 24%, Impsymian 4%..." and the list goes on. Not easy to list on the sale page and impossible to list if the parts meet any of the criteria met above.

    Post edited by joanna on
  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,004

    This is such a common complaint that Zicon has a lengthy blog post addressing all the reasons it's not always done: https://blog.zicon.no/why-additional-assets-promos.html

    The short version of it though is that it adds a huge amount of bookkeeping that the creators are not actually compensated for (Daz as a company is not a single monolithic art studio, it's a brokerage, so unless it's your stuff you're selling, you don't get a penny) - and there are a lot of entirely valid reasons why some things cannot be informatively listed anyway, so you'd never reach some people's criteria for full inclusiveness regardless.

  • joanna said:

    Stareagle said:

    This is more of a request than a discussion. Please, please disclose the names of characters and other models used in your promo images. I often see a hair model, for example, and would like to buy the character used in the poromo image to model that hair item, but I cannot find it. This would be extremely useful to me and to others, I believe.

    As Richard Haseltine said, there have been plenty of discussions about listing items in the promo pictures already.

    To sum it up: it's not as easy as you think, because (copying my response from another thread):

    • the product is not available on Daz
    • the product is a private custom and not available for sale anywhere else
    • the product is heavily kitbashed and retextured and is not representative of what might be for sale
    • the PA did not make their own promo images
    • the PA did make their promo images months earlier and they don't remember what they used

    You can ask on the forums for a specific product, and people will answer if they recognize something. Sometimes a PA shares their percentage sliders too if it's a custom made but achievable through other figures. So you might have something like "Victoria 3%, Van Helsing 15%, Olivia 24%, Impsymian 4%..." and the list goes on. Not easy to list on the sale page and impossible to list if the parts meet any of the criteria met above.

    I used to heavily advocate for listing all the products, but I've gotten over it.  On one hand, it's beneficial for Daz for the consumers to more easily access products used on promo pages.  On the other hand, it's extra work done by the PA to essentially advertise for other PA's products that will probably have no financial benefit (unless they're also listed on that product).  I think the only way for it to really happen is for Daz themselves to do it, since it's them who would really have the most to gain from it.

    Either way, I agree the forums will always be the best go-to place, as it has been for a while. On the topic of sharing the percentages used for sliders, one of my favorite examples is from chevybabe25.  Like the more recent dForce Bookworm Hair for Genesis 9.  Her products always showcase nice combinations with Daz Original models.

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