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Going to need a new PC, what specs?

SyphonapteraSyphonaptera Posts: 191
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Hello, 

I need another/new PC, budget is €2000. I want to use the Iray render.
What do I need? AMD? Intel? Which one is better/faster?
What graphic card? What brand? How much minimal VRAM? 

I do not care if a full heavy scene rendering takes 15 minutes. 

What are the suggestions/tips from you , you render-ninja's! :) 

kr

Peter

 

Comments

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,737

     If you want to render with Iray using your GPU you will need an nvidia GPU, with at minimum 8 but preferably 12+ GB of VRAM.

    If you want to keep using DS4 to render with your GPU, do not get a 50xx card. Those are only supported in DS2025 due to technical constraints.

  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,903

    AMD v Intel doesn't matter

    GPU must be nVidia, with as much memory as you can get.

    The PC itself should have at least twice as much memory as the GPU does.

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,418

    "The maximum memory for an NVIDIA 40xx series GPU is 24 GB GDDR6X on the GeForce RTX 4090." per Google AI. 

    1. Will the current production version of Daz Studio (4.24) run with this for iRay?

    2. My current GPU is an nVidia GeForce RTX 2060, 6GB dedicated GPU memory, 16GB shared GPU memory per Windows Task Manager.  All large DS environments use only the CPU for rendering, and take an hour +/-. Should I expect a big improvement with the 4090? 

    3. Do I need 2x the CPU RAM, i.e. 48GB+?

    4. Any news on the production release date of the new version of DS using the 50xx nVidia GPU's?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,910

    Steve K said:

    "The maximum memory for an NVIDIA 40xx series GPU is 24 GB GDDR6X on the GeForce RTX 4090." per Google AI. 

    1. Will the current production version of Daz Studio (4.24) run with this for iRay?

    Yes

    2. My current GPU is an nVidia GeForce RTX 2060, 6GB dedicated GPU memory, 16GB shared GPU memory per Windows Task Manager.  All large DS environments use only the CPU for rendering, and take an hour +/-. Should I expect a big improvement with the 4090? 

    Yes

    3. Do I need 2x the CPU RAM, i.e. 48GB+?

    The guide is two to three times as much system memory as GPU memory, but this is to take full advantage of the card's capacity; if you have less then system memory will, at least sometimes, be a botleneck regardless of the GPU. Divide you actual memory by two and three to get an idea of how much GPU memory you can usefully use.

    4. Any news on the production release date of the new version of DS using the 50xx nVidia GPU's?

    No, when it is ready I expect.

  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,998

    Be aware that textures are usually what takes the most vram, apart render buffers. The ratio is not linear but quadratic, this means 4K textures take 4x vram than 2K textures, which take 4x vram than 1K textures. You do the math how much increasing vram is useful, vs resizing textures. This is why products as the scene optimizer are essential to work in daz studio.

    I mean taking 24gb vram doesn't "double" your scenes over 12gb. As unintuitive as it may sound.

  • nakamuram002nakamuram002 Posts: 810

    Leana said:

     If you want to render with Iray using your GPU you will need an nvidia GPU, with at minimum 8 but preferably 12+ GB of VRAM.

    If you want to keep using DS4 to render with your GPU, do not get a 50xx card. Those are only supported in DS2025 due to technical constraints.

    How far away is DS2025?  I would be inclined to wait, then do an upgrade that includes an RTX 5000 series card.  Remember that systems go on sale for the holidays and SCOTUS could strike down some of the Tariffs in November.

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,418

    Richard & Padone -

    Many thanks.  I'm considering getting the fast specs for DS 4.24, then seeing what the future holds for DS2025 and nVidia 50xx. Or DS 2026 and nVidia 60xx.  Or ,,, wink

  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,638

    If you want to save some money just use Blender. I own 2x Nvidia 3090's and I use one on my Blender machine and one on my local AI machine. If you don't want to migrate to Win11 when support for W10 goes away ZorinOS is a nice linux distro that looks and feels like windows. You can install Daz studio on this but it is a little fiddly. I would just recommend running Blender.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,737

    nakamuram002 said:

    How far away is DS2025? 

    No ETA has been published, so your guess is as good as mine...

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,418
    edited October 21

    Silver Dolphin said:

    If you want to save some money just use Blender. I own 2x Nvidia 3090's and I use one on my Blender machine and one on my local AI machine. If you don't want to migrate to Win11 when support for W10 goes away ZorinOS is a nice linux distro that looks and feels like windows. You can install Daz studio on this but it is a little fiddly. I would just recommend running Blender.

    OK, thanks.  A long time favorite vendor of great landscape scenes for VUE switched over to Blender some time back.  I have tried Blender and just can't get my head around it.  I finally have gotten serious about learning Daz Studio and am finding it more friendly than I originally thought.  I am a long time animator using Carrara and will continue to be, using DS iRay renders as backgorunds. An example is at 1:56 in this short animation:

    Post edited by Steve K on
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