Hospital Room - I like, but...
nicstt
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http://www.daz3d.com/hospital-room
I like it,but don't feel it's worth the money, $34.95, with discount down to 20.97, so it's considered a $35 item? Take a look at the morphs, when the bed is shown with someone in it. Lieing down, the the character isn't that tall, and certainly not when sat up.
That sort of lack of attention to detail makes me nervous; this person is new to here, and I would expect more from new PA. Now I know we all make mistakes, but this is more than one mistake.
I'm sorry, I know this is going to upset the person, but it needs to be said.
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If you want to judge what a $35 item looks like, check out Stonemason's items; they are incredible, and none are more than $40. The attention to detail is amazing, as is the attention to quality.
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it says the blanket is morphable
just a promo flaw ?
You're being far too generous in my opinion. The same goes for the furniture and street prop sets released today. Just look at that chair...
DAZ used to have higher standards. I guess they want to be like Turbosquid where anything goes. Sadly that doesn't work so well without any rating systems.
http://www.unh.edu/news/cj_nr/2010/dec/bp06trendelenberg_01.jpg
I'm guessing hospital beds come in different sizes. Also you may want to put Michael or Gianni in that bed which are scaled larger than the figure pictured.
I'm with Nick... It's a bit pricey. I like the look of some of it, but not quite that much.
Generally they don't; but if they do, surely the blanket and other items would also need to be available in different sizes. The morph is clearly off.
And yes it could be a promo flaw, with the wrong morph shown twice. Like I said, it puts me off buying - yes I know I could return it but I don't like doing it if I can help it; I like Daz's return policy and don't like abusing the system; there is implied trust in the system they operate.
EDIT - removed a line and placed in original post.
It was in the cart; I've said in other threads I wait once it's gone in my cart to ensure first impressions remain true, and that the "must have it now feeling" has lessoned. :)
It's now not in my cart, and has been removed from my wishlist.
No, there's just one "size" snd shape for the blanket morph.
I bought this set to use in a hospital scene, but I think I will return it. For the price, there's not too much flexibility in the items, i.e. if you compare it with other items of the price range.
EDIT: What it would need is additional mix&match morphs all over the blanket to make it easily adaptable to whatever you throw at it. And the pillow doesn't follow the bed part when it moves up...
(Also, some "lying around" poses would be great (but that's more of a general thought than something missing in this set.)
There is lots to like about it; it looks good, but there is only so much use in an unused hospital bed, surely the point is going to be the using of the bed?
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Thanks for posting btw.
Yep,
Would have considered buying this but WAY too expensive., plus,, uuhhhmm the cushioning in that chair, looks like two blocks of foam..sorry.!!
S.K.
Yeah I would have gotten this product as well, the problem for what it is it is way too pricey, when I know of something similar that is a lot less and has an addon for it too..
While this product has advantages such as morphing blanket and bed the problem with the blanket morph is that it is limits the poses that you can use..
Glad I wasn't the only one that took issue with the price. I saw the product when it went live early this morning and had to do a double take on the price because I thought the system bugged out with the regular price, but nope it was the sale price.
Not only that, but I'm always a bit hesitant to buy anything with covers or blankets because Daz Studio lacks a proper dynamics engine outside of OptiTex products.
We already had a hospital bed. What was lacking was a hospital room. I even asked about the room the hospital bed was rendered with in the promos and never got an answer. Well, at least now, we have the hospital room.
I like the bed from this product http://www.daz3d.com/hospital-bed , but have no idea on the room used though.. And there are Optiex dynamic sheets just not sure where..
Is the blanket a separate piece parented to the bed? If so you might be able to get away with a smoothing modifier, or even exporting the blanket into Wrinkle and making a morph for the pose. If not, then you could always just make the blanket transparent and then create your own blanket based on the pose.
I've had some pretty good luck creating custom blankets using a combination of Wrinkle and 3D Coat.
Greetings,
So...these were my first thoughts also, but then I saw the '25% off if you buy 2' sale, and realized that most of the items released were 'priced to the sale', because after 25% off, they all make a lot more sense. (E.g. this item becomes $15 and change, which seems a more reasonable price for it. Although the lack of sheet morphs does make me sad.)
Still, I haven't picked up the old hospital bed at the steep discounts DAZ offers for D.O. items, so I know my need isn't great enough to get this one.
-- Morgan
It's sad as a good hospital room would be worth the full price, there just aren't the required items, and the morphs on the blanket seem to be limited. Plus ideally blanket and sheet, as I've seen patients with just the sheet, they were warm enough, they couldn't cope with the weight, and other reasons.
I too have the bed linked. It's decent but as limited in it's own way.
I find it strange there is no indication which generation of figure (or gender of the same) this has been designed for. I was tempted with the discount, bur stuff like this really needs an indication of that, along with some basic poses, otherwise the sheets tend to intersect and do the dreaded 'poke-through' thing.
If I may complain off topic I actually have thought for a while that alot of stuff here at Daz has got a little to pricey all together... Thats all:)
Yeh I see it at times; others I don't notice, so I suppose it depends how much I like something.
I picked it up with the intention of making morphs for the blanket and doing some work on a couple of the other pieces. One of the things I'm looking at doing is adding couple of small bits to parent other things to, so we don't get the icky pokethrough issues.
So, out of curiosity, would there be anyone interested in a fresh blanket for the bed that has a more pose-releated morphs for various heights?
Aside from Jepe's SheetZ, that is...
If it comes to clothing, you get high quality clothing at Rendo for less money than here at daz. Lilflame, RPublishing, Outoftouch, Powerage, just to name a view. And also with one of the texture set add ons you most of the time pay less than here without a texture set add on. And most of the time the clothes at Rendo have much more options, adjustments, morphs and so on than the clothes here.
I'm sorry, I know this is going to upset the person, but it needs to be said.
well I am sure they are by now
I don't think I have a single 3D bed of any kind that has any sheet or blanket morphs. It's just not common - although I certainly wish it was - so I'm a little surprised that so many are acting like this is the first time they've encountered this.
Concerning that sample render above, try hiding the parts of the figure that do not show (legs, feet), and try either Z scaling the bed slightly or try a d-former on the sheets (it's a pain, I know). Until we really make the leap to dynamics, this is the kind of stuff we need to do. I have to use all kinds of time-consuming tricks to get 3D content to do what I want it to, and very often I cannot get it looking the way I want at all. There's not a lot I or any of us can do about it except to learn to make or edit objects ourselves.
Well I suppose if you can't take the heat ... stay out of the thermonuclear fusion chamber :) I think any PA must accept that there may be criticism of what they have done, but it's actually a good thing because it helps them develop. Personally, I blame DAZ for this product. I perceive a general lowering of standards and a desire to push stuff out the door for the next sale.
I also looked at this set, but aside from all the other comments made here (all of which I agree with) I just didn't like the look of it: flat textures, objects lacking in fine details and a high price, even after discount. No compulsive "Buy Me" reasons.
Aside from that I balk at the idea of having to rework this rather expensive set (compare it with the ones that were released today by First Bastian, for example)...
Fresh blankets and sheets are always a good thing, if you can use them with other sets, like this one:
http://www.daz3d.com/sleeping-late-for-victoria-6
But that aside, the problem I have with the blanket is that the morph could be very usable if two things had been taken into account:
Of course you can improvise. My beef is that at the set's price, (and with the fact that the bed morph is included), the morph could have been better, i.e. since the material is rather... plain.
I don't think it's a problem of how detailed the mesh or textures are or even how many sheet morphs it has, there are plenty of item in the Daz store of this quality and quantity... It's a question of cost vs value. That is a very pricey set, it's not priced according to the other things in the store, even taking PC+ and DAZ O out of the picture completely and just focusing on brokered PA products. Obviously you can demand that price and have a product sell, Stonemason being prime example of that, but Stonemason's sets are highly detailed, damn near photo realisitic, and packed with useful and versitile content. I think this new PA should have looked at environment sets by like i13 which are much closer in detail level (though i13s are still nicer in my opinion) and then adjusted based upon the actual number of useful props in the scene. I'm going to use the New visions bedroom as an example: room + 16 props + 15 poses for $23 vs the hospital room + 7 props + 2 sheet and one blinds morph for $35. Even if we count the 15 poses equal to the 3 morphs (which isn't really fair, I know how long it takes to make those things and the poses take a lot longer) and count just the props (which by looking closely at them, the detail in modeling favors the hospital room but the texturing favors the bedroom so it really comes out in the wash for end result) the hospital room should have been priced closer to the $11 or $12 mark, up to $18 or so and I don't think many would have complained with the discounts flying around.
But then again it's listed in the What's Hot scrollbar so it's obviously selling, so what do I know..
In the end I predict we will see more sets by this new PA with equal price points because this one probably sold well enough to adiquately pay for their time, though if they had looked closer at the shop when choosing their selling price they probably could have made a lot more money with a higher volume of sales. They are new and so they don't know, and it's a delicate balancing act that established PAs agonize over with every new release, having been here 2 years or 10 like myself. It just gets a bit easier the longer you've been here.
I wasn't touching it until I got it under the $20 mark, and only then because it's a good approximation of a modern hospital room. I'm not about to give $35 for it, because it's going to need a lot of work to get it working the way it (in my opinion) should. As it is, I'll probably be making a new blanket for it.
I'll be honest, I got the fabric shader set that was in the category with it because I expected to need it for the hospital room. That got the price down, and I have a nice MR for retexturing clothing down the line, so I suppose it wasn't all bad. Once this render of extreme stubbornness gets finished doing its thing, I can move onto the actual work for the day and build the next character, see if I can work out how to make clothing that fits (including a pair of boots), and putting the character in the clothes to visit a patient with GIS Skyways outside the window.
Yes, I picked up a bunch of stuff today, and I need to get in a bit of justification for doing it. Oh, and remake someone's body morph. I seem to have mucked up her secondary sexual characteristics.
G3M needs to get here soon. Seriously.
I have just opened a ticket and asked for refund. This is something I'm not doing lightly, and only very rarely.
I feel kind of split up about this, because this kind of set was certainly needed, and something that I wanted to buy.
But ultimately, as it is, the set needs too much fixing and tinkering to be of use, for the price.
Well, there is this one: http://www.daz3d.com/sleeping-late-for-victoria-6
And Jepe's BeddingZ for males products. That's all I could find here on DAZ.
But I think the complaint is valid. For a retail price of $34.95, the product should have a set of poses for lying in the bed with matching morphs. Maybe six each for G2M and G2F, perhaps the same poses for G3F, as well. It certainly would be a much more versatile set with the poses and morphs, and I know I'd be more likely to purchase it. As it is, I'll pass.