JCM Neck problem

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• COMIXIANT Posts: 260

  July 26 edited July 26

  Unless there's a very specific technical reason not to do so (and there could be), I'd export it to Blender in that pose, fix it up using the sculpt brushes, and then bring it back into Daz Studio using Reverse Deformations.
  
  Once you have that, you can make your new morph part of the JCM.

   

  Post edited by COMIXIANT on July 26
• xyer0 Posts: 6,327

  July 26

  I've run across this problem using neck morphs. There are some morphs that I locate by selecting G8/8.1F, opening the Parameters tab, and typing "under" into the search field. They are named something like "Under Jaw Depth" and "Neck Under Height," although you may not have the morph packages that include them. One is 200 Head Morphs and the other, I think, is EmmaAndJordi Head Morphs that is no longer available here, but they have a gumroad store.
• crosswind Posts: 9,546

  July 27

  Well,  the deformation looks weird to me... have you used any specific PHM related to Head/Neck or sculpted a shape there specifically ? Better find the root cause ~~

  Anyway, if they're not the cases, I would suggest you firstly check which Joint > Bend causes the deformation shown in your screenshot ~~ (assuming you're using G8.xF)

  - Head only: set pJCMHeadFwd_25 as the 1st stage Controller of the fixing morph that you create.
  - Neck Upper only or Neck Lower only : set pJCMNeckFwd_35  as the 1st stage Controller...
  - Head + Neck Upper and/or Neck Lower : set pJCMHeadFwd_25 and pJCMNeckFwd_35 as the 1st Stage Controllers
  Then set your character's Head Morph as the 2nd Stage Controller in any case... but if there's no dedicated char head morph, just ignore it.

  Then, IIRC, you sculpt things with ZBrush... If so, GoZ your figure to Zbrush and fix the deformation as usual, e.g. by using Standard / Smooth brushes. GoZ back to DS as a new morph and set up as above-mentioned accordingly in Property Hierarchy.
  Test the corrective morph ~~  If [DeltaAdd] with Scalar value(s) doensn't work well, you can flexibly use [Keyed] as ERC Type and define the key value properly.
• Masterstroke Posts: 2,303

  July 27

  Alrighty, I think, I've got it.
  Thank you, everybody.
  Creating JCMs get very tricky, if there are more than one body part involved.
  I've made the Head body part the master dial for a controler dial which includes the upper neck body part (group).
  This controler also includes the JCM to fix the neck creases.
  All this can be switched on-off by a JCM control dial.
  
  Looks like this:
   

  

  

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• crosswind Posts: 9,546

  July 27

  Alrighty ~~ but it seems that you want to manually dial that NeckBend JCM Control property or set it default as True or 100%? 
  Actually you don't have to create new CTRL_ morphs 'cause existing pJCMs can naturally work as Controllers... you can just add an MCM and set up the ERC links ~~

  There's also another standard way of multi-dimensional controlling invented by Daz... but that'll be more complicated ~~
• Masterstroke Posts: 2,303

  July 27 edited July 27

  crosswind said:

  Alrighty ~~ but it seems that you want to manually dial that NeckBend JCM Control property or set it default as True or 100%? 
  Actually you don't have to create new CTRL_ morphs 'cause existing pJCMs can naturally work as Controllers... you can just add an MCM and set up the ERC links ~~

  There's also another standard way of multi-dimensional controlling invented by Daz... but that'll be more complicated ~~

  
  thank you
  I am already slightly overwelmed with my own creation here.
  
  what I have done here is to bend the head and the lower neck is following.
  I have already done the same with the shoulder joints, so the collar bones are following.
  It works so far without getting error messages.

  Post edited by Masterstroke on July 27
• crosswind Posts: 9,546

  July 27

  Masterstroke said:

  crosswind said:

  Alrighty ~~ but it seems that you want to manually dial that NeckBend JCM Control property or set it default as True or 100%? 
  Actually you don't have to create new CTRL_ morphs 'cause existing pJCMs can naturally work as Controllers... you can just add an MCM and set up the ERC links ~~

  There's also another standard way of multi-dimensional controlling invented by Daz... but that'll be more complicated ~~

  
  thank you
  I am already slightly overwelmed with my own creation here.
  
  what I have done here is to bend the head and the lower neck is following.
  I have already done the same with the shoulder joints, so the collar bones are following.
  It works so far without getting error messages.

  Okay, sounds great ! 
• Masterstroke Posts: 2,303

  July 27

  crosswind said:

  Masterstroke said:

  crosswind said:

  Alrighty ~~ but it seems that you want to manually dial that NeckBend JCM Control property or set it default as True or 100%? 
  Actually you don't have to create new CTRL_ morphs 'cause existing pJCMs can naturally work as Controllers... you can just add an MCM and set up the ERC links ~~

  There's also another standard way of multi-dimensional controlling invented by Daz... but that'll be more complicated ~~

  
  thank you
  I am already slightly overwelmed with my own creation here.
  
  what I have done here is to bend the head and the lower neck is following.
  I have already done the same with the shoulder joints, so the collar bones are following.
  It works so far without getting error messages.

  Okay, sounds great ! 

  
  Here is, what I did
  
  My very first YT upload BTW 
• crosswind Posts: 9,546

  July 27

  Good for you!