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If you are churning out a new character this frequently, and a meaningful portion of the active spenders can get the character at extremely low cost through their Premier subscription, what is the incentive to invest a lot of time, money, or any other finite resource on those characters?
As to the 8K thing, I don't see texture quality or useful detail having a one-to-one relationship with resolution as a quantifiable. Not much reason to assume an 8K skin will be four times better than a 2K skin.
Many of the recent females releases have really melded together. Madison looks like a quick head morph combination between Lianna and Lyna, with bigger lips, and a new skin slapped on. The real difference is only in the face with the freckles, which us nice. I think that's the only real value of the model.
I don't yet if the PAs are overoworked, out of ideas, or have just decided to phone in some of these model designs. Maybe more time and resources are being spent on the next generation models, whenever those are released.
May I suggest turning on the lights.
If she has not paid her electric bill then nevermind.
As an avocate of the BBB I resemble that remark ... wait what were we talking about ... oh look squirrel !!!!
I'm the same way!! Is the face good? Is the skin good? I have so many morphs for the rest it's irrelevant. And I find that smaller chests seem to have less distortion when made big than the other way around.
I'm glad Daz is good about issuing refunds.
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Still need a Brenna for Ophelia 7 type character, if we are doing "pretty girls" again.
In that department, the lack of characters by FW and Jessaii is really starting to show this gen.
If you want to see the current FW characters by FW and Jessaii look in https://www.daz3d.com/emrys under the new PA name, where you will also find many of his collaborators.
Would you care to elaborate? Specifically? The render is your usual high quality.
Madison is definately the most fan servicey DO character since Lianna 9. I think DAZ has really focuesed on realistic porportions since 8.1 or the new filatoon stuff. Its okay to have some characters that don't fit that mold as long as its the exception and not the rule. As people have mentioned PA's are filling the bimbo void. On a side note I really wanted a rune or michaela 9. I really liked the genesis 3 look.
Just in case people are curious about the clothing adjustment that comes with the character I have attached some test renders. One without the slider and one with the slider. I was pleasantly surprised with the results. It works on other characters as well. Generally anything that streches horizontally over the breasts. I honestly think I will use the slider more than the character. Calum came with a similar tool but I don't work with male characters as often.
Well, I'm loving her now... Considering until I read this thread I was going to pass on this character, that's quite a change. Thank you to everyone who has shared renders of her.
I do like the character, and I'll probably add the HD asset.
Thanks, @voicejd for the comparison renders of the clothing adjustment! The near-ubiquitous shrink-wrapped boobage in G9 promos had led me to think that this was an unavoidable fact of mammarial grandiosity for this generation.
A projection morph is specific to a particular shape, both in code (it is the file used when calculating the morph for shpae projection from that morph, instead of the morph itself) and in shape (the projection morph needs to match the overall base morph, adjusted to - usually - push fitted items in a more plausible manner than the base morph would).
For the sake of comparison, I decided to line up Madison (albeit with Lauryn's materials, as Madison's came out quite dark under my normal lighting and I just swapped them out rather than trying to tweak them) against Whisky, my resident busty/skinny cast member (built on G8F, although several of her morphs are originally G3F).
My gut instinct, at least in so far as I've put my characters together previously, is that Madison's shape has a pretty high shoulder to waist ratio. Independently, her chest/shoulders and her waist/hips seem reasonable, but the combination does give her an unusual look - a bit like she's two differently shaped fashion models who've been grafted together at the ribcage. Maybe not impossible, but I can see why she might be niche, and I feel like if I use her going forwards, I'm likely to narrow her shoulders and widen her waist.
Madison looks very odd next to Whisky. Whisky is very well done and looks fabulous; Madison, while probably not intended to have the exact same body proportions as Whisky, is just so far from believable.
If Madison was a photoshop job on a magazine cover, the work would be suspect.
If instead she's supposed to be stylised, then her lines and ratios just aren't working for me. I simply can't see the style.
I see some attributes thrown together, so I can only assume those attributes were the starting and ending point. Like others have said - we have plenty of sliders for that. Valid enough starting point, and even if the combination isn't a point I'd personally start from, I could see myself getting somewhere close to someone like Whisky from wherever I did start from. But in Madison, I just don't see any effort towards balancing a character like that, either in a realistic or stylised direction. But when it comes to DO, that's exactly where I expect the effort to be. These characters are supposed to be the best in the game.
Thank you, first time in my life I've managed to get a headache from my own stupidity.
Don't feel bad. I believe at the time of the switch someone posted about the switch. I have found the Emrys and the collaborations to be pretty great. But there have been so many of these name changes I wish DAZ would post a crosslink to the new PA name to allow customers to continue shopping at a favorite PA's store. Especially if they have been away for a bit of time and missed the switch over.
@richardandtracy I have HH Belle so I will experiment with her. I intend to investigate this with other characters over the weekend. I do think the efficacy is going to vary from character to character.
@xyer0 I call it the chest wedgie. I noticed it in genesis 8 but it definately seems to be more common now. I don't know how much of it genesis 9 and how much of it is more variety in shapes.
I agree, I think some basic options should be included with the DO characters. At least provide eye and brow colors. I do appreciate the clothing morph included wtih Madison, and I hope to see it incluede with other characters.
Madison isn't my favorite DO character, but I do like her. It might just be my perspective from seeing characters on other sites, but I think she's realistic, even with her large implants (though I have dialed in some adjustment morphs). She brings her own style to my DAZ population.
Nah, I'm definitely not claiming they're identical or that Whisky is the only way a busty/skinny character can be put together. (Certainly, people can get skinnier, but even though I was originally aiming for a parody of the body shapes people render for adult visual novels, I ended up with something way more reasonable than most of that - particularly once I decided she was way too good to be a one off joke, promoted her to a regular, and did a load of work trying to make sure clothes fit her properly).
Still, she's my closest mostly-human benchmark for this kind of body type, so she was my natural choice of character to pull out for comparison.
I'll just say NOT! Nothing 'soever to recommend her. I will say yay! and yes to https://www.daz3d.com/lme3d-jaxx-hd-for-genesis-9\ . Looks like the people who made her went all out, and I can say cheers to that!
I'm late to the party, was it this thread? And Jessaii has created a number of my favourite characters.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8702146/#Comment_8702146
Luxey Muses is FKA Hot Lil Me, in case you haven't made that connection yet.
I see. Thank you!