Toon Eye Problem
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I bought the “Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials Expansion” and the “Genesis 9 Anime Base Expressions”. I am now testing them out.
I used the sliders to make a G9 male toon (and later a female toon). The first thing I noticed was the eyes of both male and female go wonky, they bulge out from the eye sock. Notice (in the image) the lashes floating over the eyeball. Also there is a gap between the inner eye socket and the eye ball. BTW: Applying the expressions makes it worse.
What gives?
I can use the “Base Anime Eye Width size" slider to fix the gap - though I don’t think I should have to. Am I missing something?
I don’t see a fix for the bulging. Again, am I missing something?
If this isn’t fixable, I want to return the packages for a refund.
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Moved to technical help as it is not a Daz Studio application topic.
What exactly are your steps? I am not seeing this loading the Genesis 9 Toon Female base, which renders better in Filament, do you see it then? If so it is probably an effect of another shape or character triggering something like a jointy adjustment or corrective morph when it shouldn't.
Which figure did you load?
"Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials Expansion" and the "Genesis 9 Anime Base Expressions" are meant to be used with G9 toon figures, and those load with eyes, lashes and brows which are different from those of "regular" G9 base.
It's totally possible that the "regular" eyes and lashes don't adjust properly to the toon morphs.
For making a G9 toon character, you should've loaded Genesis 9 Base Anime Masculine rather than a base Genesis 9. All toon related head morphs only work well on the former.
I bought the “Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials Expansion” and the “Genesis 9 Anime Base Expressions”. I am now testing them out. Right now I am about ready to ask for a refund.
BTW: If you are only going to answer one question or all three, please start with the question number so others will know that the remaining questions still need answered - thanks.
First off, this happens on both an Intel Mac and on an M4 Mac. — I don’t know if the Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials Expansion requires Filament or not, but it is my understanding that Filament is now Mac compatible (at least on the M4 Mac). Questions:
1. The floating iris is fine but it is sitting on a black eyeball (image 1 & 2 shows the eye with and without the Iris showing). I tried changing the surface texture but nothing works. Is there a fix for this?
2 There is a scratchy black outlining of the female eye (you can see it clearly when I hide the eyelashes in images 1 & 2). Image 3 was taken from the male. There seems to be a solid black line around his eyes. Is there a way to remove this outlining?
3. I used the sliders to make a G9 male toon (and later a female toon). The first thing I noticed was the eyes of both male and female go wonky, they bulge out from the eye sock. Notice (in image 4) the eyelashes float on top of the eyeball. Plus there is a gap between the eye socket and the eyeball. It is like the eyeball has shifted away from the nose. Is there a fix for this?
Please help.
Which version of DS do you use? Filament is only available on Mac if you use the DS2025 alpha, it won't work in DS4.
Regarding the other points, you already have a thread on your problems with G9 Toon, with several replies and questions to you: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/736776/toon-eye-problem#latest
Moreover the "daz studio discussions" sub forum is meant for discussions about the application, not content. So this thread will likely get moved to another subforum or merged with your other thread.
Merged.
Sorry, I did not remember that I had already asked one of my eye questions, thus Richard had to merge the two post.
let me answer some of your questions to me:
Question from Leana: Which version of DS do you use? Filament is only available on Mac if you use the DS2025 alpha, it won't work in DS4.
Answer: I am using DS4. BTW: I just tried installing the DAZ 2025 alpha and my virus detector program flagged it with a problem. I am so paranoid about virus’, I went to erase that System partition. But in my haste, I erased all of the systems on that hard drive! grrrrrr! I will not try installing that version again until it has been out for a while and no one else has any virus alerts. Oh well.
Richard asked: What exactly are your steps?
Answer: After installing the Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials Expansion package, I went to: Smart Content/Figures/People/Stylized/Genesis 9 Base Anime Feminine. I then installed the character.
BTW: In comparing my render to yours, not only did I notice the black eyes, but I also noticed that yours looks like a flat 2D image while mine still looks 3D. (see enclosed image).
Are all of my questions related to the toons requiring Filament? If so, I guess I should ask for a refund on the two packages that I bought?
Leana was probably asking exactly which version - 4.x.x.x, which you can see in Help>About Daz Studio. Also, is this Mac or Windows?
My render uses Filament, which is what the toons are set up for
I am using a Mac and I am running DAZ 4.24.0.3. I believe Leana was saying that the DAZ 2025 Alpha is the first version where Filament is Mac compatible.
I guess the crux of the issue is: do the Genesis 9 Base Anime (M/F) characters require Filament to work properly?
Yes, Macs do not get Filament in DS 4.
The toon characters are set up for Filament, so they won't work immediately in Iray and even with tweaking won't look as intended. If you want toons you could also look at using pwToon in 3Delight - though you would have to do all the material set up yourself, and probably not use the special toon eyes.