1920s - 1960s

kenmokenmo Posts: 986
edited July 10 in Product Suggestions

I would like to see more period correct clothing, props, cars, planes, buildings, etc for the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s  and 1960s era of North America.

I am thinking of Norman Rockwell, Wil Eisner, Bettie Page and other artists of that era. 

Yeah I know, Bettie was not an illustrator like Rockwell or Eisner but she is an icon. 

Sadly I find this is the one area that DAZ developers have overlooked.

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,237

    I am confused. The span of the 1920s to 1960s (I am assuming you didn't mean to exclude the 1950s) have been covered pretty thoroughly by DAZ artists, like Predatron. I looked at my collection of 20th Century clothing and it is huge, even if I ignore the Edwardian period and the 1970s to 1990s. Many are DAZ+ and go back to V4/M4 but I still use them today on current characters and new PAs are producing period outfits still.

    And architecture has been done in many areas, with some gaps of small town centers, but Collective 3D has that period of housing really well done.

    Hair is fairly well covered if you want glamour. Don't ignore an older model, convert it if needed and use shaders appropriate for the type of hair.

    Makeup is possibly the one area that is lacking. We have a slew of modern, fantasy, and sci-fi makeups, but except for the three full makeups that came out with Bonnie 8.1 I don't think we have a 1920/30s era makeup kit? Not sure if there is any that really represent the actual palette of the 1940s or 1950s either?

    Cars are to some degree, see DAZ+. I am not sure about motorcycles (not that knowledgeble but I have one that looks to be around 1920/30ish). Bicycles not so good. I have seen discussions in the forums about the design of both of those to know how little I know about these to offer an opinion.

    For the Bettie Page style, pull up every 'The Girl' release (or other similar females) and you will find outfits that match her style. Also there are the artists who specialize in sexy lingerie like xtrart-3d and others. Not my thing, but I would check out the folks who moved over from Renderosity. I had an uncle who took girlie photos of this type in the 1940s/1950s and as a little girl stayed over in rooms decorated in mounted images he had taken.

    For props, well my runtime is littered with 20th century props, some accurate, some not so much, by artists who make sets. But a couple who are accurate are SloshWerks and maclean. Check out your own sets to see what you have, it is amazing some days what I find tucked into an environment.

    I just did a quick snap-shot of some of the artists whom I know cover North America during this period. There are others. The fun is in the finding for yourself. I know I have gone through the PAs a number of times, one by one, looking at each store. Putting some items on wishlist that I later picked up. But I became familiar with what their style is, what they offer generally. And if it was something I might use.

  • backgroundbackground Posts: 588

    I think one of the things which might put PA's off doing 1920-1960's items is that quite a lot of research is required to get things right. I know from my model building outside of 3D that finding accurate clear photographs or drawings is time consuming and difficult. It can also be expensive if you need to buy books. There is always some detail which is overlooked, but you can bet one of your customers, or potential customers, has that exact photo or drawing which shows whatever you missed. For Bettie Pgae though I would think there are enough pictures and film of her for someone to make a close replica, not sure if they would be in colour though? 

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 986

    memcneil70 said:

    I am confused. The span of the 1920s to 1960s (I am assuming you didn't mean to exclude the 1950s) have been covered pretty thoroughly by DAZ artists, like Predatron. I looked at my collection of 20th Century clothing and it is huge, even if I ignore the Edwardian period and the 1970s to 1990s. Many are DAZ+ and go back to V4/M4 but I still use them today on current characters and new PAs are producing period outfits still.

    And architecture has been done in many areas, with some gaps of small town centers, but Collective 3D has that period of housing really well done.

    Hair is fairly well covered if you want glamour. Don't ignore an older model, convert it if needed and use shaders appropriate for the type of hair.

    Makeup is possibly the one area that is lacking. We have a slew of modern, fantasy, and sci-fi makeups, but except for the three full makeups that came out with Bonnie 8.1 I don't think we have a 1920/30s era makeup kit? Not sure if there is any that really represent the actual palette of the 1940s or 1950s either?

    Cars are to some degree, see DAZ+. I am not sure about motorcycles (not that knowledgeble but I have one that looks to be around 1920/30ish). Bicycles not so good. I have seen discussions in the forums about the design of both of those to know how little I know about these to offer an opinion.

    For the Bettie Page style, pull up every 'The Girl' release (or other similar females) and you will find outfits that match her style. Also there are the artists who specialize in sexy lingerie like xtrart-3d and others. Not my thing, but I would check out the folks who moved over from Renderosity. I had an uncle who took girlie photos of this type in the 1940s/1950s and as a little girl stayed over in rooms decorated in mounted images he had taken.

    For props, well my runtime is littered with 20th century props, some accurate, some not so much, by artists who make sets. But a couple who are accurate are SloshWerks and maclean. Check out your own sets to see what you have, it is amazing some days what I find tucked into an environment.

    I just did a quick snap-shot of some of the artists whom I know cover North America during this period. There are others. The fun is in the finding for yourself. I know I have gone through the PAs a number of times, one by one, looking at each store. Putting some items on wishlist that I later picked up. But I became familiar with what their style is, what they offer generally. And if it was something I might use.

     

    Thanks for the reply. I left out the 1950s by mistake. Currently having some health issues. I re-edited and included 1950s. I will check out your leads.

    Cheers

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 986

    background said:

    I think one of the things which might put PA's off doing 1920-1960's items is that quite a lot of research is required to get things right. I know from my model building outside of 3D that finding accurate clear photographs or drawings is time consuming and difficult. It can also be expensive if you need to buy books. There is always some detail which is overlooked, but you can bet one of your customers, or potential customers, has that exact photo or drawing which shows whatever you missed. For Bettie Pgae though I would think there are enough pictures and film of her for someone to make a close replica, not sure if they would be in colour though? 

    Sorry, I did not mean historically correct. Looking at Eisner's and Rockwell's works, I am sure they used some liberties and shortcuts to give the illustion of being period correcct.

    Cheers

     

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 2,756

    Are you looking for lava lamps? I could give several suggestions on those, if interested, when I get back to my computer and can pull up my file of table lamp assets....

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