G8F: move hip/pelvis bones while holding the chest bones?

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• Squishy Posts: 707

  May 21

  Rotating (not translating) the pelvis should be fine since it's a child of the hip, it should only carry rotations down to its children (the legs, feet bones etc).

  You can save a partial pose of just the abdomen and below though, then you can do whatever you want with the lower body and just re-apply the partial pose to get the character back into the pose you wanted. You can also use Memorize but be aware, then you can't restore the character to default pose etc in that current scene.
• feldarzt Posts: 204

  May 21

  Well, rotating the pelvis isn't enough.

  What I'm thinking of is moving the origin point from the hip to the chest lower temporarily, and then moving it back. Is this possible?
• CES3D Posts: 228

  May 21

  How about enabling Pin Translation and Pin Rotation for Abdomen Lower, and disabling Use Limits for Abdomen Lower's Bend, Twist, and Side-Side?
• feldarzt Posts: 204

  May 21

  You probably meant pinning Translation and Rotation for the chest upper? In any case, I tried pinning both the chest and the abdomen (not at the same time) and translating the abdomen lower/pelvis with both the regular translation and ActivePose tools, and rotating it. Depending on the specific way, either the upper part is rotated (as usual) or the pelvis moves more or less as intended, but the upper parts of the body move/rotate as well.

  CES3D said:

  How about enabling Pin Translation and Pin Rotation for Abdomen Lower, and disabling Use Limits for Abdomen Lower's Bend, Twist, and Side-Side?
• CES3D Posts: 228

  May 21

  feldarzt said:

  You probably meant pinning Translation and Rotation for the chest upper? In any case, I tried pinning both the chest and the abdomen (not at the same time) and translating the abdomen lower/pelvis with both the regular translation and ActivePose tools, and rotating it. Depending on the specific way, either the upper part is rotated (as usual) or the pelvis moves more or less as intended, but the upper parts of the body move/rotate as well.

  CES3D said:

  How about enabling Pin Translation and Pin Rotation for Abdomen Lower, and disabling Use Limits for Abdomen Lower's Bend, Twist, and Side-Side?

  No, as I mentioned earlier, my suggestion is to pin the "Abdomen Lower," which serves as the root of the upper body, and simultaneously disable the rotation limits (Bend, Twist, Side-Side) for "Abdomen Lower."

  Have you tried disabling the rotation limits?

  Simply pinning "Abdomen Lower" without removing the rotation limits causes the bones of the upper body (below Abdomen Lower) to follow the rotation of the Hip.

   
• CES3D Posts: 228

  May 21

  I have attached an example image showing "Abdomen Lower" pinned with the "Use Limits" for Bend, Twist, and Side-Side disabled.

  You can confirm that the upper body's pose remains intact even when the lower body is moved.

  

  

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• feldarzt Posts: 204

  May 21

  Ah, you're absolutely right! And yes, this is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks a lot for the tip!

  CES3D said:

  feldarzt said:

  You probably meant pinning Translation and Rotation for the chest upper? In any case, I tried pinning both the chest and the abdomen (not at the same time) and translating the abdomen lower/pelvis with both the regular translation and ActivePose tools, and rotating it. Depending on the specific way, either the upper part is rotated (as usual) or the pelvis moves more or less as intended, but the upper parts of the body move/rotate as well.

  CES3D said:

  How about enabling Pin Translation and Pin Rotation for Abdomen Lower, and disabling Use Limits for Abdomen Lower's Bend, Twist, and Side-Side?

  No, as I mentioned earlier, my suggestion is to pin the "Abdomen Lower," which serves as the root of the upper body, and simultaneously disable the rotation limits (Bend, Twist, Side-Side) for "Abdomen Lower."

  Have you tried disabling the rotation limits?

  Simply pinning "Abdomen Lower" without removing the rotation limits causes the bones of the upper body (below Abdomen Lower) to follow the rotation of the Hip.