About the g9 character deformation is very strange(solved)

hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8

My g9 character always looks weird no matter what body morph I use.
The breasts always sag excessively and are separated, which is completely different from the reference pictures when purchasing the products.

How should I solve this problem, is it my daz that has a problem or is it the same for everyone?

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  • hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8

    This picture makes it even more obvious, I have no idea what went wrong.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,998

    There is almost certainly a morph loading with a non-zero value which shouldn't - quite possibly a corective morph that should apply only with some combination of shapes or shape and pose. A way to test this is to zero the figure - Edit>Figure>Zero>Zero Figure - confirming that yes you do mean Zero and not restore; if that fixes the issue the next step is toi identify the culprit.

  • hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8
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    I used the base model of g9, and then loaded other deformations. There should be no other deformations in it that I don't know about.

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  • hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8

    Richard Haseltine said:

    There is almost certainly a morph loading with a non-zero value which shouldn't - quite possibly a corective morph that should apply only with some combination of shapes or shape and pose. A way to test this is to zero the figure - Edit>Figure>Zero>Zero Figure - confirming that yes you do mean Zero and not restore; if that fixes the issue the next step is toi identify the culprit.

    Thanks for your reply, but this doesn't work, still the same.

     

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,998

    and you did tell it to zero, not restore, in the pop-up alert after selecting the command?

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746
    edited April 14

    Well we can see that there is a non-zero morph even in that screenshot.  In your Properties panel, the Cici Body Apply morph is still showing as non-zero, thus you have not zero'd the figure

    You said in OP 

    My g9 character always looks weird no matter what body morph I use

    Is that true?  Or is it only true that your morph "Cici Body Apply" is the one that "always looks weird"?

    Being accurate about what the problem is could be useful for diagnostic purposes.

    If it's only one morph that looks weird, then logic dictates that it is that morph that has the problem...

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  • hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8

    Richard Haseltine said:

    and you did tell it to zero, not restore, in the pop-up alert after selecting the command?

    Thanks for your reply. I used zero figure, but it's still the same. The character's breasts are still very strange, too separated and sagging.

  • hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8

    lilweep said:

    Well we can see that there is a non-zero morph even in that screenshot.  In your Properties panel, the Cici Body Apply morph is still showing as non-zero, thus you have not zero'd the figure

    You said in OP 

    My g9 character always looks weird no matter what body morph I use

    Is that true?  Or is it only true that your morph "Cici Body Apply" is the one that "always looks weird"?

    Being accurate about what the problem is could be useful for diagnostic purposes.

    If it's only one morph that looks weird, then logic dictates that it is that morph that has the problem...

    Yes, because I had to use body deformation, I zeroed the character and needed to test if it was normal, but the result was still excessive sagging and separation of the breasts, which was very strange. I don't know what the problem is, or if other people are the same as me, and this is seriously different from the reference picture when purchasing the product.

    And it's not that body, every body has the problem, but this didn't happen in the g8, so I've been using the g8 models, but the G9 female models have a more polished looking face, so I tried using the G9, but I get this problem that I can't solve.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746

    I personally dont see the problem in the 3 x images in the original post.  The only problem i see is when you have applied a morph, in this case the Cici Body Apply morph.  You have said the problem occurs with all body morphs, but the images you've shown contradict that.

    Another thing to point out is that you have a Geograft applied (Breastacular).  Click on the Breastacular geograft in the Scene tab or the Properties tab to see if there are morphs applied to that.

    Curious to know if you have just tried starting over again, and if the problem still persists on fresh scene/figure.  I ask this to check if it is an issue with your content library/installations or if it it just an issue with something you did to the figure within the Scene file.

  • hiroshi-3dhiroshi-3d Posts: 8

    lilweep said:

    I personally dont see the problem in the 3 x images in the original post.  The only problem i see is when you have applied a morph, in this case the Cici Body Apply morph.  You have said the problem occurs with all body morphs, but the images you've shown contradict that.

    Another thing to point out is that you have a Geograft applied (Breastacular).  Click on the Breastacular geograft in the Scene tab or the Properties tab to see if there are morphs applied to that.

    Curious to know if you have just tried starting over again, and if the problem still persists on fresh scene/figure.  I ask this to check if it is an issue with your content library/installations or if it it just an issue with something you did to the figure within the Scene file.

    Thanks for your reply. I have been using DAZ for more than three years. I used to use G8 character models. I think my G9 models are weird, especially the breasts. I think it must be a problem with the Morphs, but I can't find which one because I have disabled both the hidden and visible Morphs. The result is still weird because normal female breasts should be round and full, not deformed.

    But I seem to have found a way to make the breasts look less weird, that is, use Breastacular to adjust the rotation of the chest bones. Otherwise, under normal zero conditions, the breasts are still overly separated and drooping.

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746

    you mentioned G8 with breastacular doesnt look exactly like G9 with breastacular.  Are they supposed to look the same? Are you comparing like with like (base with base, clone with clone)  I am not familiar with the product but might pay to check and ensure your expectations of how they should look and work is correct.

    If you believe there is an issue with your morph library, and you want to pinpoint the issue, it is probably best to test each potential issue one at a time , instead of applying 10 potentially faulty things (morphs and geografts) on the figure at once and then trying to deduce which one is causing the problem.  It's difficult to identify what the issue is from your screenshots because there are too many different variables at play (character morphs and geografts)

    Potential problem 1: There is a morph active on your base figure at all times.  To identify this you need to do as Richard above suggested, to load fresh G9 base figure and dont dial in any other shapes.  Then, zero the figure to manually set all morphs to zero, which will even set all non-zero defaults to zero. See if anything changes on the appearance of the figure.  If nothing changes when zeroing the figure, then you have no other morphs active with non-zero default values on the base. You can also check under Currently Used after zeroing the figure to see if there is anything now zero'd that is not at its default value, which would indicate that it has a non-zero default.

    Potential problem 2: Issue with your purchased character morphs or geograft morphs. Dial them in one at a time to find which morphs are faulty. Ensure your expecations for how they should look is correct by comparing to product promos or checking with someone else with the product. Check for updates. Reinstall if there are updates.  You gave the example that rdaughter's Cici Body Morph did not look like references, but were the references using Breastacular? Are you sure you are comparing the same things...

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