Functional Assets
jmucchiello
Posts: 630
I'd like to make a small rant, if I may. 3D asset artists have my utmost respect. I just wish the assets they created weren't missing thing that sometimes feel obvious.
For example, an apartment asset should have closets in bedrooms and a bathroom. Now, these features don't need to be fully kitted out. Heck, the bathroom can be an empty room since there are plenty of bathroom assets available on the store. But I've seen a few loft style apartments where not only isn't there a bathroom, there isn't even a door to the non-existent bathroom.
Similar issues with rooms that have double doors to enter them. But the double doors aren't functional. Or worse, they're just part of the wall.
I understand many Daz users just do one off images. But some of us want their characters to be able to seem to live in the space. And that means doors that work and are logically placed usually.
Thanks for listening.
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There is a long thread on toilets without lids that actually covers many similar issues. The thing to remember is that adding al this stuff, and especailly making it work, will complicate the construction and use of the product.
See also: clothes with no way to get into them and belts that would fall off if you tried wearing them like that.
All I asked for was spaces that should exist, like bathrooms. Doors that open/close shouldn't be that difficult.
Ultimately, if I can't tell from the shop page if all the doors work, I tend not to buy. I've been burned by too many other assets that had the look I wanted but caused me to be digging into the surfaces tab to see if I could set the cutout opacity to zero on a door embedded in a wall so I could put in place a door I could move from another asset.
I didn't call out any products by name because ultimately, I didn't buy them and don't feel I should comment on something I didn't buy.
Will look for toilets...
To this, I implore people to buy the entirety of GCJellyfish's store (and indeed the bathroom they have under the vendor name of Wibble at another popular content store).
Their stuff is set up with heaps of posing controls, morphs and/or variants, and their products make for the most usable sets I've seen on the store.
When someone else's set that was actually sold as a kitchen let me down quite badly recently by having ovens that wouldn't open, it was GCJ's Rising Sun set that came to the rescue.
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The "Staff Room" portion of their Rising Sun set gets a single promo...
... but that oven opens and the shelves in it can be adjusted, the clocks on it and the microwave can be set to any 12 hour time, the dishwasher has a modelled interior (including being able to load the detergent dispenser), the cooker dials turn, the sink you can't even see has a posing faucet, the cupboards and drawers all open, the fridge's internals are rigged, the door handle turns and the light switch on the wall can actually be toggled. Oh, and all the books can be opened and closed. And they're all set up as individual props you can load in elsewhere, as I did when I needed the oven for a different scene.
That's one room out of many in the set.
I had little interest in a cabaret set, but I knew that I was buying an absolute toolbox of things to use elsewhere.
So yeah, go throw money at them so they put out more stuff.
Even worse - for me - are apartments with a floor plan/setting/whatever it's called in english that no architect not on drugs would ever come up with. Using other than 90° angles, putting useless small niches everywhere, without thinking how a house with several of these apartments would look from the outside and how it would be even possible to build such a monstrosity.
GCJellyfish is a fantastic vendor! Their hatchback family car comes with so so so many little extras, and if I recall, there's even a PDF/read me that describes them all, just in case you missed any.
Looks like Rising Sun is going into my wishlist, pronto...
Windows that don't open.
Apartments not speciofically in an earlier time period, with cord phones, or radiators for God's sake. then again, I've been told of homes and apartments built without air conditioning.
Button-up shirts with no open-shirt morph. Really?
Same with pants. I don't think there is a single pair of pants with rolled up cuffs. Very, very few shirts with rolled sleeves that are nor permanently rolled.
Not to be a debbie downer, but speaking as someone who has made freebies and a few things for sale(not here), that I try to ensure have all or most moveable parts rigged to the best of my addmitely limited ability. How much more would you be willing to pay for all those little details? For all that extra work? More detail means more work in production, which means a higher price. At what price would the complaints start of "oh it's nice but too pricey, I'll just wishlist it".
Just curious.
Your ask is reasonable. Bathroom and closets and doors that open and close as expected. Venting and light fixtures, and some furnishings. Light switches and power outlets. There's even a wall clock that can be set.
Fun fact: I nearly bought that one, but then I noticed that - from the top view - the doors in the hallway were too far away from each other, indicating some empty space two appartments, which would make it impossible to get from one balcony to the other (which would have been needed for my story). Yeah, would be easy to just put two appartments close to each other, but then a shot along the hallway would result in an unlogical result. So I would either have to edit that hallway or use a different one of fitting dimensions. In the end I got me a way simpler product with way less options, but a fitting sized balcony
The price is okay (or even too low) even though I could it only afford it, when it would be at least 70% reduced, due to my limited funds for my hobby