5000 series GPU - Iray?

Hi,

I just noticed that Iray does not work on 5000 series GPU and I just switched to 5080. Is there any news on if they plan to add support at all?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,079

    It cannot be supported by DS 4.x.x.x due to a change in the way nVidia compiles the renderer. 50x0 support will be in the next major version of Daz Studio, for which we do not have an ETA.

  • ArtRouladeArtRoulade Posts: 44

    Are those responsible at Daz Studio aware of this significance? The problem will grow with the number of users with 50x0 cards. DS5 has been in development for three and a half years or more. I would doubt that the development team doesn't have a development plan internally and can't give us an approximate timeline.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,079

    ArtRoulade said:

    Are those responsible at Daz Studio aware of this significance? The problem will grow with the number of users with 50x0 cards. DS5 has been in development for three and a half years or more. I would doubt that the development team doesn't have a development plan internally and can't give us an approximate timeline.

    Yes, they are aware - and they may well have a timetable, but if so it hasn't been sahred (now has any kind of feature list). I am certainly aware of the problem - a GPU upgrade was in my vague plans for this year, but the only non-8GB cards available from my usual store seemed to be the 12GB 3060 (which would be a minimal upgrade to my 11GB 2080Ti) and the 50x0 cards.

  • Thanks, at least it is confirmed it will be fixed at some point then? That is encouraging even if I have to wait a couple of months.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,079

    maravthemaker said:

    Thanks, at least it is confirmed it will be fixed at some point then? That is encouraging even if I have to wait a couple of months.

    It cannot be "fixed" for DS 4.x.x.x. The next major version (DS 5 or whatever they call it) will have support for 50x0 cards, but we have no idea when it will be released (even as a Public Build/beta) - I would think that a couple of months may be optimisitc, but Daz can be very good at playing its cards close to its chest so anything is possible.

  • ironcheeseironcheese Posts: 76

    Thank you, Richard. Excellent feedback as usual.

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,306

    So it's the best time to start putting some money into your bank account.
    By the time DAZ will release 5.xxx, you'll have enough for getting a high end killer GPU.

  • PadonePadone Posts: 4,015

    I believe the system requirements at the daz help center should be updated since it's from 2017 now, possibly also adding the limitation with 5000 cards. While DAZ can keep its plans reserved, it is certainly an obligation to provide the users the up to date system requirements.

    https://bugs.daz3d.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003568443-What-are-the-System-Requirements-to-run-Daz-Studio

  • golem841golem841 Posts: 176

    The 50's Nvidia series are the least you can bring to DazStudio if you want to continue with Nvidia. I just bought a 4070 specially for Daz. Anything above is totally out of my pocket money range. 

    And I don't think I'm alone : a lot of hobbyists are waiting for a real affordable solution.

    - Skip the Nvidia Iray if prices are going crazy, 

    - Or find a more affordable rendering engine.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,100

    golem841 said:

     

    - Or find a more affordable rendering engine.

     this

    other programs have pathtracing not reliant on Nvidia cards but GPU based

    there must be another engine D|S could use, I would say Filament but since Mac users cannot use that

    if DAZ cannot, someone really needs to make a plugin for something else such as Radeon ProRender

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,079

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    golem841 said:

     

    - Or find a more affordable rendering engine.

     this

    other programs have pathtracing not reliant on Nvidia cards but GPU based

    there must be another engine D|S could use, I would say Filament but since Mac users cannot use that

    if DAZ cannot, someone really needs to make a plugin for something else such as Radeon ProRender

    The existing render engines use plug-ins, as did Octane - just download the SDK and make the plug-in for the desired option (then convert al the materials).

  • Is there any news regarding support for RTX 5000 GPUs?  I'm looking to upgrade within the next year, and it would be nice if the iRay Engine could exploit some of the new functionality.  Unless I'm mistaken.  For unbiased rendering, does ray reconstruction or frame generation offer any advantage to Daz users?  I am under the impression that those features are for gaming and would have no effect on unbiased renders.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,763

    Support for 50xx cards is already present in DS2025, and it's been clearly stated that it was not technically possible to add it to DS4.x. 

  • I wonder if it would be possible for a DS4.x instance to use an iRay Server over the bridge instead of directly rendering from Studio. That might let you render and still utilize a 50xx card. 

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,763

    From what I've read no, Iray server bridge can only target the same version of Iray.

  • jjoynerjjoyner Posts: 748

    golem841 said:

    The 50's Nvidia series are the least you can bring to DazStudio if you want to continue with Nvidia. I just bought a 4070 specially for Daz. Anything above is totally out of my pocket money range. 

    And I don't think I'm alone : a lot of hobbyists are waiting for a real affordable solution.

    - Skip the Nvidia Iray if prices are going crazy, 

    - Or find a more affordable rendering engine.

    I’m in a similar situation.  I’ve been a hobbyist at this for many years and am now retired.  I bought a laptop with an RTX 2060 card when I retired in 2019 and it have served me well.  But, new products push my 16 BG of RAM and 6 GB of VRAM to the edge … and sometimes beyond.  So, I finally bought a desktop last month.  After much searching for desktops with an RTX 40x0 card, I found one at Best Buy with an Intel Core i9 14900KF CPU, 32 GB of RAM (expandable), an RTX 4070 card with 12 GB of VRAM, a 1 TB SSD and a 4 TB HDD.  When I got the desktop and set it up, though, I discovered that the company had started replacing 40x0 cards with 50x0 cards at no extra cost.  I needed/wanted a 4070 card and not a 5070 card, though.  I discovered that the company has excellent customer/technical support and they paid for me to ship the 5070 card back to them and then sent me a 4070 card.

    Now I have to find the time to install content and play!

     

  • Leana said:

    From what I've read no, Iray server bridge can only target the same version of Iray.

     

    I think that's right in terms of the bridge protocol version. If DAZ Studio 4.xyz supports bridge protocol 3 then you need to have your iRay Server running bridge protocol 3 as well (or the iRay Server version). I think that's independent of the GPU. 

    Would be an interesting experiment. :-) 

     

     

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,763
    edited September 17

    sidcarton1587 said:

    Leana said:

    From what I've read no, Iray server bridge can only target the same version of Iray.

    I think that's right in terms of the bridge protocol version. If DAZ Studio 4.xyz supports bridge protocol 3 then you need to have your iRay Server running bridge protocol 3 as well (or the iRay Server version). I think that's independent of the GPU. 

    Would be an interesting experiment. :-) 

    I'm pretty sure someone already tried and it was confirmed not to work. I'll see if I can find the thread again.... 

    edit: found it: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/9114731/#Comment_9114731

    Post edited by Leana on
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