Charlie 9

NetherFalcon · March 6

I really like him. He's my favorite male character released so far. His skin is very detailed, too! Of course I had to genderbend him to a female version. Also named, ah, Charlie. Short for Charlene! Heh.

Be sure to thank him for his service!

This is Charlie with his Foxtrot form. Puttin' the moves on a lady (with zero success).

Charlene close up. With Cheyenne's makeup I liked how she turned out. A feminized version still carries that 1950s look.

Another angle. Charlie has body hair baseline, that's my only critique with it. But it isn't too bad. Charlene just needs to have it removed, that's all.

A comparison-I gave Charlene Elena 9's body with Cheyenne 9's proportions. Same pose, different figures!

Storypilot · March 6

Nice renders! Overall I like how Charlie is looking a lot, he has great details.

joanna · March 6

I like his look, but I don't like that he has chest hair as a part of his skin texture, even if I usually don't render bare-chested guys.

NetherFalcon · March 6

joanna said:

I like his look, but I don't like that he has chest hair as a part of his skin texture, even if I usually don't render bare-chested guys.

Yeah the chest hair is the only thing I dislike.

Wonderland · March 6

I like the character but think poor Charlie will not do too well in the military lol. He has like no muscle tone! I see him more like a 1950's nice boy who takes girls to the soda shop, kind of like Archie Andrews from old Archie comics.

Serene Night · March 6

The skin and face are nice. Not really liking the sloping shoulders wide hips, and the clothing contents which look bad to me. I may get the figure ala cart with the hairs, but the figure itself is kinda meh.

Timbales · March 6

Body hair on the torso texture, cankles, usual chest issues, not for me.

Elor · March 6

Wonderland said:

He has like no muscle tone!

Uncle Sam likely didn't care that much during the Korean War.

NetherFalcon · March 6

Wonderland said:

I like the character but think poor Charlie will not do too well in the military lol. He has like no muscle tone! I see him more like a 1950's nice boy who takes girls to the soda shop, kind of like Archie Andrews from old Archie comics.

I agree-a little low on the muscle. I beefed him up and added some dirty so now he's a muscular, dirty soldier. And with a sci-fi gun because let's say he's fighting aliens.

Damsel · March 6

NetherFalcon said:

Wonderland said:

I like the character but think poor Charlie will not do too well in the military lol. He has like no muscle tone! I see him more like a 1950's nice boy who takes girls to the soda shop, kind of like Archie Andrews from old Archie comics.

I agree-a little low on the muscle. I beefed him up and added some dirty so now he's a muscular, dirty soldier. And with a sci-fi gun because let's say he's fighting aliens.

I like it!

Lee Moon · March 6

My usual mixing of characters...

Mostly Charlie, but also a bit of Harlow, Fibo, and a few shaping morph packs were involved. He's using an adjusted version of Thimor's skin, probably another product's eye materials, and my eye reflection settings (for subtle highlights.)

Also, this is the first render I've shown using Pixelmator Pro (Mac) for post-work image processing. Still playing with general stylistic settings as the tools are a bit different from Photoshop Elements.

Lee

nemesis10 · March 6

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

My usual mixing of characters...

Mostly Charlie, but also a bit of Harlow, Fibo, and a few shaping morph packs were involved. He's using an adjusted version of Thimor's skin, probably another product's eye materials, and my eye reflection settings (for subtle highlights.)

Also, this is the first render I've shown using Pixelmator Pro (Mac) for post-work image processing. Still playing with general stylistic settings as the tools are a bit different from Photoshop Elements.

Lee

I am a big fan of Pixelmator Pro; I had to use Photoshop for 30 odd years professionally and I hope that Apple goes good things with now that they purchased irt.

Lee Moon · March 6

nemesis10 said:

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

My usual mixing of characters...

Mostly Charlie, but also a bit of Harlow, Fibo, and a few shaping morph packs were involved. He's using an adjusted version of Thimor's skin, probably another product's eye materials, and my eye reflection settings (for subtle highlights.)

Also, this is the first render I've shown using Pixelmator Pro (Mac) for post-work image processing. Still playing with general stylistic settings as the tools are a bit different from Photoshop Elements.

Lee

I am a big fan of Pixelmator Pro; I had to use Photoshop for 30 odd years professionally and I hope that Apple goes good things with now that they purchased irt.

I picked up Photoshop in the 1990s while living in Tampa, Florida. Used it until it went subscription then started using Photoshop Elements when that was available. PSE 2020 no longer runs on my new M4 iMac and I had Pixelmator Pro already, but had barely used it until today. I like it a lot and believe that I can get the same sort of streamlined workflow that I was using in PE 2020 for post work. I also hope Apple gives it some good love as the new owners. :)

*EDIT*

Just looked in my old tech stuff and found the Photoshop 2.5 installer floppy disks. Looks like thhose were from 1989. I also have the floppies for Illustrator and Dimensions, My next door neighbor in Tampa was a major graphic designer in the area. He saw me come home with the Adobe suite one day and asked if I was a pro graphic designer. Told him I was just a hobbyist. He said that's over $1000 for a hobby right there. Yep, but I enjoy my hobbies. I used Photoshop and other tools to create assets for my Apple Newton apps back in the day. Wrote a bunch of tech demos including a video player, 3D vector flight game, multimedia viewer/player, text to speech app, a couple of VR style demos with instructions on how to zoom between different 360 bubbles when navigating between various 360 images - Google Street View does the same thing now that I described back then. Apple's lead manager/engineer for the Newton team had me create a special version of an Apple ad in my video player. They showed it to Steve Jobs after he returned to Apple in the hopes they could keep the Newton project alive. Which it eventually did as the iPhone and iPad.

Lee

Moogee · March 6

I actually like him and will work with him a lot. I like that he has a more regular, everyday shape as opposed to the more "idealized" male figures which are available.

nemesis10 · March 6

Serene Night said:

The skin and face are nice. Not really liking the sloping shoulders wide hips, and the clothing contents which look bad to me. I may get the figure ala cart with the hairs, but the figure itself is kinda meh.

You would love Carl, the exclusive Premier Charlie character. He is at least as tall as Thomas.

memcneil70 · March 6

Remember that WWII was fought by teens or 20-somethings who survived the depression in Europe and the United States. Not everyone had a chance to eat a lot. They did what they had to, to survive and help their families. My father was expected to survive on his own from 16 on. He enlisted at 17 in the USCG in Jan/Feb 1941 as he said for three meals a day, a roof over his head to sleep under, and a job. He was skinny, like Frank Sinatra skinny. Still was when he put on his uniform when he was 70. But he fought through the war with the Navy in combat and later for eight years. Got out as an electrical engineer. And never talked about it. Like our vets today, there was that 1,000 mile stare when asked.

So for Charlie 9, he is more like Jack Kennedy, well fed, well educated. Charlie 9 Foxtrot is more like my dad and many of his compatriots in the USCG, Marines, Army, and Army Air Corps and their equivalent services around the world. These are the guys who died, or were wounded/maimed, or survived. and have been leaving us to the point there is only a few left now to bear witness to what they survived. And achieved.

And there were female versions of these men also.

I was lucky enough to serve with them when I first joined the military as they were wrapping up their careers in our service. They fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

Lee Moon · March 6

memcneil70 said:

Remember that WWII was fought by teens or 20-somethings who survived the depression in Europe and the United States. Not everyone had a chance to eat a lot. They did what they had to, to survive and help their families. My father was expected to survive on his own from 16 on. He enlisted at 17 in the USCG in Jan/Feb 1941 as he said for three meals a day, a roof over his head to sleep under, and a job. He was skinny, like Frank Sinatra skinny. Still was when he put on his uniform when he was 70. But he fought through the war with the Navy in combat and later for eight years. Got out as an electrical engineer. And never talked about it. Like our vets today, there was that 1,000 mile stare when asked.

So for Charlie 9, he is more like Jack Kennedy, well fed, well educated. Charlie 9 Foxtrot is more like my dad and many of his compatriots in the USCG, Marines, Army, and Army Air Corps and their equivalent services around the world. These are the guys who died, or were wounded/maimed, or survived. and have been leaving us to the point there is only a few left now to bear witness to what they survived. And achieved.

And there were female versions of these men also.

I was lucky enough to serve with them when I first joined the military as they were wrapping up their careers in our service. They fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

Just looked at a photo of my dad from 1950. He was a radioman in the Navy (Pacific Fleet) and was sort of a cross between Charlie 9 and Charlie 9 Foxtrot. Tall, thin, but had thicker legs. Mom said it was from all that running away from trouble he got into. :)

Dad served during Korea. The photo I mentioned was from a Saturday Evening Post article when he was 20 and on shore leave in San Francisco, I think. Will need to unearth the original magazine if I can. My older brother served in the Navy during the Gulf Wars. He was a Quartermaster and joined the Navy right out of high school (1974.) He was also lean and tall.

Lee

nemesis10 · March 6

I decided to double-check and here is Carl for Charlie standing next to Thomas

memcneil70 · March 7

I went in a week after my official graduation, three weeks after my 18th birthday in 1970. Only one in my class of 500 to join any service. I was Supply, but detailed to Command Post, Disaster Preparedness and then Base Inspections during alerts/wartime. The airmen I had trained in England were sent off to Desert Storm as I was being shipped back to the States for my last assignment prior to retirement. But my son joined the Army during the Balkans. Put on alert to ship out twice, cancelled at last minute. Now in Army Corps of Engineers. The military tradition runs in our family. As it is for many families.

miladyderyni_173d399f47 · March 7

memcneil70 said:

Remember that WWII was fought by teens or 20-somethings who survived the depression in Europe and the United States. Not everyone had a chance to eat a lot. They did what they had to, to survive and help their families. My father was expected to survive on his own from 16 on. He enlisted at 17 in the USCG in Jan/Feb 1941 as he said for three meals a day, a roof over his head to sleep under, and a job. He was skinny, like Frank Sinatra skinny. Still was when he put on his uniform when he was 70. But he fought through the war with the Navy in combat and later for eight years. Got out as an electrical engineer. And never talked about it. Like our vets today, there was that 1,000 mile stare when asked.

So for Charlie 9, he is more like Jack Kennedy, well fed, well educated. Charlie 9 Foxtrot is more like my dad and many of his compatriots in the USCG, Marines, Army, and Army Air Corps and their equivalent services around the world. These are the guys who died, or were wounded/maimed, or survived. and have been leaving us to the point there is only a few left now to bear witness to what they survived. And achieved.

And there were female versions of these men also.

I was lucky enough to serve with them when I first joined the military as they were wrapping up their careers in our service. They fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

My late father was a WWII vet. He told me many stories, but they were all about the people he met - soldiers, officers, Red Cross, & civilians. I know there was lots he took to his grave. Most of his service was in Italy, so when I watch Captain America the First Avenger, I like to pretend he's somewhere in that crowd of GIs, first heckling the show, then greeting the return with most of the prisoners.

It's one reason I was curious about the accuracy of uniforms and props. I can probably get my husband to weigh in. He's more into military history than I am. (Although I know more than many people.)

nonesuch00 · March 7

I am really liking the characters of late that DAZ 3D is offering in these bundles since the Premier Club started. They are more average, and not in negative way at all. I'm frustrated a bit because well, I get only 1 coupon per month.

sid · March 8

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

My usual mixing of characters...

Mostly Charlie, but also a bit of Harlow, Fibo, and a few shaping morph packs were involved. He's using an adjusted version of Thimor's skin, probably another product's eye materials, and my eye reflection settings (for subtle highlights.)

Also, this is the first render I've shown using Pixelmator Pro (Mac) for post-work image processing. Still playing with general stylistic settings as the tools are a bit different from Photoshop Elements.

Lee

This is a great mix. I remember Thimor's skin been great

caravelle · March 8

Charlie 9 looks like the clean-scrubbed dream of every (white) US mother-in-law of the 1950s. Absolutely not my taste. The WW II stuff doesn't interest me either. Let's wait for the clean-scrubbed white girl, which will probably be available here in a fortnight...

nonesuch00 · March 8

caravelle said:

Charlie 9 looks like the clean-scrubbed dream of every (white) US mother-in-law of the 1950s. Absolutely not my taste. The WW II stuff doesn't interest me either. Let's wait for the clean-scrubbed white girl, which will probably be available here in a fortnight...

That was Cecelia, among prior examples.

caravelle · March 9

nonesuch00 said:

caravelle said:

Charlie 9 looks like the clean-scrubbed dream of every (white) US mother-in-law of the 1950s. Absolutely not my taste. The WW II stuff doesn't interest me either. Let's wait for the clean-scrubbed white girl, which will probably be available here in a fortnight...

That was Cecelia, among prior examples.

I would have thought more of the Barbie type...

But it's true: Charlie 9 got the bonus character 'Carl', and Cecelia's was 'Carla'. Funny, the two don't fit together at all.

sid · March 14

A bit late to this thread. There was a cyclone, and all the balcony furniture was brought inside and blocked access to my rendering machine!

Charlie is a little doll like for my personal taste, but I love the leemoon_c43b45a114 mix so much, I'll keep him for blending. Love the hair. It's not posable, but there's probably so much styling product in something like that in real life, I can't imagine it would move too much.

(I used a shader pre-set from another product on the hair in the first pic)

Rendered with his HD. Big versions attached if anyone wants to click through.

NetherFalcon · March 14

sid said:

A bit late to this thread. There was a cyclone, and all the balcony furniture was brought inside and blocked access to my rendering machine!

Charlie is a little doll like for my personal taste, but I love the leemoon_c43b45a114 mix so much, I'll keep him for blending. Love the hair. It's not posable, but there's probably so much styling product in something like that in real life, I can't imagine it would move too much.

Never too late to join the thread and add some great renders!

midgard229 · March 17

I always saw him as a 50's family guy kinda dude

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I actually like him and will work with him a lot. I like that he has a more regular, everyday shape as opposed to the more "idealized" male figures which are available.

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