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Medieval junk (literally)

SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,773
in Product Suggestions

I recently purchased the Mega Trash Pack (https://www.daz3d.com/mega-trash-pack), and it's really a great set of filler items to improve any modern scene. The textures are good, everything loads in with materials set properly (which is rare), and little details like the individual pieces of wood in a set being adjustable and the squishing morphs for certain items are appreciated as well.

Bascially, I'd really like to see (and get a ton of use out of) a medieval/fantasy version of this. Now I know there are a gazillon medieval props out there (nearly all of which I own), many from older Faveral sets, very high quality ones from Strangefate/Roguey, and a lot of historical ones from Merlin and others. Finding them spread across a thousand folders in our content libraries isn't something I look forward to doing, but more importantly, if they were in a set, they would all be of similar quality and texture resolution. It would take some work to try and make a medieval chair from 2005 with 3DL textures look like it would match a Strangefate table with 4K textures that looks like it came from Artstation.

Anyway, 'junk' items would be great to have, like broken furniture, broken swords, barrels, crates, bottles, mugs, old bricks and castle stones, folded up cloth, rags, and scraps of leather, cart wheels, small piles of rotting food, leftover bread, crumbs, torn flags, discarded and damaged pieces of armor or boots, etc. 

Thanks for your consideration.   :)

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,010
    edited March 1

    I am playing with Hunyuan3D again

    obj in attached zip

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    Medieval trash1.zip
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  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,773

    Sorry, I didn't see this until now. What is this exactly, a 3D model generated from an AI image? I'm not at all up to speed with text-to-3d model or AI animation tools.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,010

    SnowSultan said:

    Sorry, I didn't see this until now. What is this exactly, a 3D model generated from an AI image? I'm not at all up to speed with text-to-3d model or AI animation tools.

    can be image or prompt or both 

    https://huggingface.co/spaces/tencent/Hunyuan3D-2 can have one go a day on Hugging Face

    I have it installed locally on my PC

  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,903

    Interesting thread on what constituted medieval waste:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/a8jclk/what_would_be_considered_trash_in_medieval_times/

    A "broken sword" would be way too valuable a source of raw materials to just throw away.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,599

    chris-2599934 said:

    Interesting thread on what constituted medieval waste:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/a8jclk/what_would_be_considered_trash_in_medieval_times/

    A "broken sword" would be way too valuable a source of raw materials to just throw away.

    I didn't want to say it, but my first reaction to this thread was that there probably wasn't junk lying around in medieval times like we have now.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,251

    Even just 100 years ago, items were repaired, saved, and preserved as a person was responsible for their own discarded items. Even in the 1950s Los Angeles still had incinerators in the backyards for burnable items. Glass and cans were returned for recycling by manufacturing. Clothing, if not repaired to hand down, were put in the rag barrel or set aside to be used in quilts, rugs, or fillers inside. It was only as the city grew concerned over the air quality that city-wide garbage collection started and incinerators were illegal in the 1960s.

    But broken pottery could be dumped in a pit, that has been found in digs around old sites. Shattered wood items, well they would be burned in a fire to keep warm, if not able to be repaired.

    'Waste not, want not.'

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,078
    edited March 4

    I think in addition to what was listed by the archaeologist, you also need to consider wasted animal and human feed (grass, hay, mangle wurzle tops - basically any leaf beet tops, partially rotted apples/pears/plums/carrots ((and not just orange ones)) /cabbage leaves, swedes ((the vegetable swede, not people from Sweden))/acorns/oak apples etc). Remember hay ricks & stooks could also fall down and be trampled into the mud.

    Places wouldn't have been so tidy, either. There'd be brambles, stinging nettles and 'weeds' everywhere because there wouldn't be the manpower to keep stuff so tidy with a lower population and manual tools only. May not have been quite so true of the larger pre-Black Death population before 1 in 3 died, though.

    Iron of any sort was a valuable resource. As one tool wore out, the remainder was either welded into further items or new metalwork made from the scraps. Eventually the remaining scrap would be re-forged into bar and turned into nails. It's only in the last 150-200 years has Iron & steel become ubiquitous and disposable.

    Regards,

    Richard

    Post edited by richardandtracy on
  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,048

    memcneil70 said:

     

    'Waste not, want not.'

     Good motto to live by, even today.

  • SnowSultanSnowSultan Posts: 3,773

    I'm sorry I post anything any more.  

    Fine, let's be realistic. How about some prop piles of horse poop, some rotting vegetables, and some scattered clumps of hay? Wouldn't want to clash too much with the much more realistic scenes in the gallery of angels fighting dragons and women in tight dresses shooting zombies.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,048
    edited March 7

    How about we call it a discarded piles of medieval recyclable materials that are  currently awaiting repurposing. So useful medieval junk piles. 

    Post edited by FirstBastion on
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