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Thank you very much RGcincy- that was very thoughtful of you!
With numbers like that, knowing that your average PA would probably make four times the profit by making a product for females instead of for males, this thread should probably be called "Why are there any male clothes?"
-- Walt Sterdan
I am totally in agreement with this. While I definitely want to have the opportunity to purchase more men's content, I will not purchase something that is overpriced and is not of apropriate quality. Why spend part of a limited budget on something that I will be dissatisfied with and probably not use for any longer than it takes to load onto a figure and realize that it just will not work?
The answer is be willing to pay 5x as much for male clothing. :)
My answer to the problem is that in my universes the beings have evolved beyond the need for clothes. For which I thank them greatly because it saves me a lot of money.
Overall, I think there are probably three major groupings of customers as far as human characters/clothing/morphs/etc. are concerned:
1. Males, mostly in their 20's and 30's, who use the programs primarily to make sexualized female characters for uh... non-artistic purposes <_< >_>
2. Women, more likely to be in their 30's and 40's, who use the programs for cutesy and child characters (and by extension, fairy type characters/scenes)
3. Artistic types who use it for digital art, or as an accessory to go with fiction/fanfiction they write.
Of the three, the only group likely to use adult male characters is the third type (the second may or may not use male children, teens, or toons) Types 1 and 3 are very likely to purchase skimpwear. Type 1, from what I have seen, the vast majority do not buy products for male characters-- they are much more likely to buy fictional creatures than they are to buy male characters.
Again, only category 3 is very likely to purchase male-anything, though it depends largely on whether it's for fanfics or purely art-- the "purely art" base aren't very likely to use guys, either.
Category 2 may or may not buy males to accompany the females. Category 1 rarely buys male stuff, though it depends on what they're into. Vast majority of the non-artistic Poser porn I've seen has either been just gals, or gals + tentacle monsters. The small remainder is hetero bondage-- which for the guys, you'll have to look outside of Daz for.
Of course, with fics, the genre is important as well. Gritty post-apocalyptic/dystopian fics often seem to involve male characters-- but that may be due to the fact that they are written primarily by men. Same holds true, to a lesser extent, to gritty, soft scifi (by gritty, I mean settings like Aliens and similar movies/shows/books/etc. with lots of riveted metal floors/walls, painted yellow/black caution bars on walls/doors, grated metal floors, etc. For a perfect visual example, see Artcollab's "The Loading Dock."
One correction
Regarding the ages and genders, if you look around the community you will find lots of older members and also a fair amount of ladies too. And yep, ladies often render ladies. They discriminate less than men
Also the definition of "art" is a lot less subjective then people want to accept.
Whether something is good art, or poorly done is another thing altogether. But the subject matter being a sexualized person does not disqualify it from being art, or artistically done.
Optionally, I would add a 4th grouping for the tentacle stuff and not lump it into the first group. Also wouldn't group poser porn with group 1, put that into group 4 as well.
Porn is a very particular thing, we shouldn't call everything porn or erotic "just cause".
I don't know. Depends on where you look. There are quite a few gay men who use male figures.
I prefer to render men. That's what I like to look at, much like some hetero guys prefer rendering women.
Plus men, to me are more challenging. The store and DAZ in general seem geared to render women- so, I tend to like doing something different. Likely if eveyrone liekd rendering guys, I'd want t o render women.
Here's another render of the work clothes. I spent more time putting a scene together. I bought the work clothes as I had recently purchased the Medieval Peasant Life sets which I used part of here. The clothes are with the 3DL materials. In addition to changing the colors of the clothes, there are many dirt layers you can add if you have the add-on set. In this case, I used a reddish grime on the clothes. There's also a number of adjustment morphs for each of the clothing items. Overall, I'm very happy with this.
And depending on who you talk about, gay men also render women too! And even make nice tools and morphs for women! So you never know who is doing what..
But yeah, I was going to say people render sexy people. But I wasn't trying to dispute the majority of renders feature women. But I agree with ya!
It turned out very well too. The groin area doesn't pull the eye to it.
I'm hoping we'll see some male content soon. It is day 10 of the sale and so far most of the content has been for the ladies.
Hopefully mine will get in for the sale, I cut it a bit close on time.
One of today's releases
http://www.daz3d.com/galactic-smuggler-hd-8k-for-genesis-2-male-s
Very nice and very well done.
Any chance of a sneek peak please, I'm intrigue to see what you've come up with.
I put a little one on page 1.
LOL so you did - but its so very little any chance of another little bit?
Yup, that is very well done... only reason I'm not getting it tonight, I need to see how much money I have left after paying the bills...
And while the ratio is still favoring female clothing, I've seen some really nice mens outfits so far in this sale...
If anyone has galactic smuggler how does it render in 3delight? I see materials are Iray only and I don't use that. Thanks
Agreed. It's in my cart, but Im waiting until tomorrow to see if there is anything else I want to buy so I can take advantage of 50% off. If not, I'll just get it at 40% off.
Give me a couple of hours...
(I don't even *do* sci fi, and I couldn't resist this... must have something to do with my first celeb "crush"... when I was 6 ;))
Thanks dawaterat :-)
Agreed
I agree. At the point when you have the uniform done why not take the extra time and work, which probably is minimal, and create a male version. Wouldn't that at least get the male version to sale much better?
Okay, this may take longer than I thought. Between the HD and the huge textures, and I'm using the 4K ones, it appears to be too much for my old machine. I'm on my phone because I want to give it some time, but I may be about to hit restart #2 because my computer has locked up
Yeah, I've come to the conclusion that I *can't* do a simple almost-out-of-the-box render of the outfit with everything just changed from Iray to DazDefault. I have to do a fair amount of pre-work just to be able to use it on my (admittedly older) machine. I will still try to get something together though, but if someone with a better computer beats me to it, I've no objections.
** let me be clear, the problem with the outfit is my machine, and not the outfit itself. I knew Luthbel was really getting into the whole HD thing (his Wildenlander set tends to make DS chug a little on my machine) so I should have realized he'd be going whole-hog faster than my computer can keep up.
One thing that hasn't been considered or maybe in a tangential way is how the figure/character churn affects male clothing. Each new version of Genesis requires a remake of existing male clothing for the new figure so a lot of time is spent on clothing that already exists in the marketplace but for a new figure. The multitude of female characters: V6, Bethany6, Gia6 etc means even more time and attention is taken from making male clothing. Each release, spread throughout the year means another push to promote and clothe that character. In the meantime M4, who's been around many years, will have a much larger wardrobe, plus a vendor should be able to make more profit off the long tail. As an M4 user myself I still sometimes buy content for him even if the content was produced 6 years ago or whatever.
3DL render of the Scifi smuggler out of the box 1 AoA light.
Sorry forum won't let me post the image
Shrunk it down real small
I can't wait to pick this up. I too am waiting to see if something else will come out tomorrow I can buy with it otherwise I will buy it by itself.
This shouldn't choke your system, it does use a level of sub-d, but only one, it's low enough poly that it really needs that one level on some of the pieces. You can turn it off if you're not rendering close up, probably want to leave it on the belt though. Has Iray, 3DL Uber, and Poser mats.
*Jewelry not included*
And can someone tell me if Galactic Smuggler can be imported in Poser using DSON Importer ?
Thanks, Basil