Mechasar Evil Pumpkin add-on textures are missing

Mechasar Mega Add-Ons Pack 1 https://www.daz3d.com/mechasar-mega-add-ons-pack-1

I had the whole pack installed. Now I'm trying to make an evil watermelon but get files are missing alert. I uninstalled and reinstalled several times, no love. It's also really messed up that once you uninstall, you can't install the Mega Add-ons Pack, but has to instal all the packs individually, but then it appears in Smart Content as the mega pack. Totally confusing.

Anyway, here is the screenshot. I installed the evil pumpin add-ons via DIM but the textures are not there. The accessories are there though. And I just downloaded the pack manually and the "Evil Fruits" folder that should have the materials is missing.

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,987

    Do you have the Evil Pumpkin package itself? https://www.daz3d.com/evil-pumpkin-hd-for-genesis-8-male

    As the Mega Add-ons package itself says, the product is an add-on, not the main thing, and it looks from your error message as though the missing files are from the main Evil Pumpkin G8M package itself.

    If you do have the main product and you're still getting that error, then you may need to file a help ticket, because something might have gone wrong with the add-on.

  • felisfelis Posts: 6,069

    I looked in the product description - file list. It includes the mentioned textures.

    Does the log, Help > Trobleshooting > View Log File, provide more information?

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,438
    edited December 2023

    @lou_harper Please look here. It appears that Daz has never fixed this problem. You probably still have to manually download the second package from your Product Library and manually install it.

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733

    The two files for the Evil Pumpkin have the same part number (IM00090085-08), which is not permitted in DIM, one will be blown away. One of them has to be re-numbered, so seeing as there are 23 parts, I used "IM00090085-28_EvilPumpkinAddOns" (kept the "8" to associate the two parts). You can put both in your download folder, refresh DIM and install normally. The second part won't have an order attached to it, but at least it can be managed with DIM.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,438

    NorthOf45 said:

    The two files for the Evil Pumpkin have the same part number (IM00090085-08), which is not permitted in DIM, one will be blown away. One of them has to be re-numbered, so seeing as there are 23 parts, I used "IM00090085-28_EvilPumpkinAddOns" (kept the "8" to associate the two parts). You can put both in your download folder, refresh DIM and install normally. The second part won't have an order attached to it, but at least it can be managed with DIM.

    Well, that's clever. Fixing that probably took you 30 seconds. My help request on this problem is still open after 6 months.

  • lou_harperlou_harper Posts: 1,163

    What a mess. :/

    Thank you all. Now I understand.

     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,438

    And so I followed NorthOf45's suggestion and the EvilPumpkinAddons2of2 showed up in DIM in my Ready to Install. I installed it. Since I had previously manually installed it from my Product Library, I didn't notice any difference, but it did no harm. Now I have both packages in DIM. I don't know what would happen if Daz ever actually fixes the problem on their end, but after 6 months of waiting, I doubt if that will ever happen.

    I really hate the way this product has been handled by Daz. All the little pieces have to be installed by individually, but In Smart Content, everything is lumped under the product Bryana for Beverly for me. @NorthOf45, do you have any magic solution for that? Do you see the same thing?

     

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733

    Strange, my Smart Content has them all under "Mechasar Mega Add-Ons Pack 1" as one would expect, but none of the metadata files has that name, and neither do any of the supplements. Since each package has its own metadata file, with a different product name for the same product token in each (can't have more than one product name for a given product token), the first one in would set the product name in Smart Content, and all following parts would fall under it. The Beverly Add-on is the first part, and presumably the first part you installed, so that is the name of the product, as far as Smart Content is concerned. I do not recall if (or how, or when) I changed the product name, and I cannot find any notes about the fix (I always take notes). 

    In Content Library, Product View, you can rename a product. You'll need to go to the B's, scroll down to Bryana for Beverly, and right-click, Rename... as you like (others might need to go to another letter, depending on which part was installed first). Note: It might take a while for CMS to process all those entries. It will boot you back out to Products, then you can go back in to see if it worked. I tried it on something else, and it worked as expected.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733

    Yeah, 30 seconds to fix, but 6 weeks to realize what was wrong... blush

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,438
    edited December 2023

    Renaming the product corrected the Smart Content display. @NorthOF45 is a metadata hero!

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733

    Glad it worked out. I must admit that I have poked and prodded many hundreds of metadata files over the years.

  • this and the PAs attitude has ensured I will never buy this product yes

  • MechasarMechasar Posts: 250

    Hi there! Thank you @vwrangler @felis @barbult @NorthOf45 for your help in giving the right tips.

  • MechasarMechasar Posts: 250

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    this and the PAs attitude has ensured I will never buy this product yes

    Very sorry to hear this, may I ask what type of attitude are you referring to exactly? On my behalf, metadata files are not up to me

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 26,438

    Mechasar said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    this and the PAs attitude has ensured I will never buy this product yes

    Very sorry to hear this, may I ask what type of attitude are you referring to exactly? On my behalf, metadata files are not up to me

    I was surprised to see Wendy's response, too. The packaging problems and metadata problems are all caused by Daz, not Mechasar. When I found an actual issue with the product content, Mechasar posted a quick workaround and then sent a full fix to Daz almost immediately. It is hard to find better PA support than that. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,462
    edited December 2023

    Mechasar said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    this and the PAs attitude has ensured I will never buy this product yes

    Very sorry to hear this, may I ask what type of attitude are you referring to exactly? On my behalf, metadata files are not up to me

    the reaction given when asking about the megabundle and those who only own a few of your things

    I happily buy addons to most stuff I buy but am not inclined to buy bundles at the best of times

    from anyone

    I may eventually end up owning everything in a bundle anyway but don't like being forced to buy a whole lot of stuff I don't want for a few things I do

    if this marketting strategy works for you then good

    but it doesn't result in me personally buying any of it

    ( I do own some of your content, nothing against it but obviously not buying your addon)

    again I emphasize I like the products of your's I have just do not find this bundle appealing

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  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,582
    edited December 2023

    I just waited till I could get the addon bundle at a price I felt worth it for the items I had. It doesn't bother me about the parts for sets I don't have. I just didn't install those addons.

    Plus it gives me a reason to grab the other items when I can as I've got an addon ready and waiting for them.

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  • Here we are years later and I just bought this product and it is a total mess! All parts installed individually in DIM, which is fine and probably better. However, it has the wrong name on the bundle in smart content and in the content library. It shows as Madam Wicked Add-On and most of the files are there. I have chunks of the files only as well. For instance, Bryana for Beverly (for Brooke 8.1) has the textures only. Not the morph. No amount of searching and prodding has helped to find it. I then downloaded that package individually manually, copy paste and dropped it into the content library. 81 of 99 files were "replaced" which means that 18 files were missing from something I installed with DIM less than a month ago. Now I feel like I am going to have to go one by one and download all of this pack manually and drop them all into my Daz library by hand to see what other files are totally missing. I absolutely loathe having to search for things and Smart Content is king for me but this is a total mess. Its almost as bad as all the content creators from the other sites having their products ported over to Daz and not having any smart content. I stopped buying anything that I can tell lacks smart content. I have over 20,000 products and it gets super messy when I cannot use smart content to find stuff. Vendors are far too inconsistent with where they store the files to keep track of a library the size of mine. 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,087

    zombiecharger65 said:

    Here we are years later and I just bought this product and it is a total mess! All parts installed individually in DIM, which is fine and probably better. However, it has the wrong name on the bundle in smart content and in the content library. It shows as Madam Wicked Add-On and most of the files are there. I have chunks of the files only as well. For instance, Bryana for Beverly (for Brooke 8.1) has the textures only. Not the morph. No amount of searching and prodding has helped to find it. I then downloaded that package individually manually, copy paste and dropped it into the content library. 81 of 99 files were "replaced" which means that 18 files were missing from something I installed with DIM less than a month ago. Now I feel like I am going to have to go one by one and download all of this pack manually and drop them all into my Daz library by hand to see what other files are totally missing. I absolutely loathe having to search for things and Smart Content is king for me but this is a total mess. Its almost as bad as all the content creators from the other sites having their products ported over to Daz and not having any smart content. I stopped buying anything that I can tell lacks smart content. I have over 20,000 products and it gets super messy when I cannot use smart content to find stuff. Vendors are far too inconsistent with where they store the files to keep track of a library the size of mine. 

    Do you have the base products for which theya re add-ons?

  • Richard Haseltine said:

    zombiecharger65 said:

    Here we are years later and I just bought this product and it is a total mess! All parts installed individually in DIM, which is fine and probably better. However, it has the wrong name on the bundle in smart content and in the content library. It shows as Madam Wicked Add-On and most of the files are there. I have chunks of the files only as well. For instance, Bryana for Beverly (for Brooke 8.1) has the textures only. Not the morph. No amount of searching and prodding has helped to find it. I then downloaded that package individually manually, copy paste and dropped it into the content library. 81 of 99 files were "replaced" which means that 18 files were missing from something I installed with DIM less than a month ago. Now I feel like I am going to have to go one by one and download all of this pack manually and drop them all into my Daz library by hand to see what other files are totally missing. I absolutely loathe having to search for things and Smart Content is king for me but this is a total mess. Its almost as bad as all the content creators from the other sites having their products ported over to Daz and not having any smart content. I stopped buying anything that I can tell lacks smart content. I have over 20,000 products and it gets super messy when I cannot use smart content to find stuff. Vendors are far too inconsistent with where they store the files to keep track of a library the size of mine. 

    Do you have the base products for which theya re add-ons?

     Of course I do or I wouldn't have bought the add-ons. 8 year veteran of Daz here with 20,000 products. In fact this add-on had items I didn't own so I bought them just to say I had them. I might have a spending issue. ;)   

  • So, I manually downloaded each and every individal part of the add-on packs and dropped them into my library. Some files were missing originally but not many. I had to rename the product in Content Library from Madam Wickd Add-On to the actual name so I could at least find it next time. Smart Content is a total no go with this pack so I just bookmarked it. Most of the add-on stuff is just dumped into a single folder. Morphs, Actors, Characters are basically non-existent but I did find how I can access the morphs. Load the figure Base that they are for and then go to the parameters tab and search for the slider. Then go back to the product in content library and apply textures, poses, attachments etc.. I figured it would be a simple as Smart Content (Product Tab) search Bryana for Beverly Or Mechasar Mega Add-On Bundle or any variation. Nope. In Smart Content (Files Tab) the materials will show up in a search though but not the morphs. So, in conclusion, all the files seem to be there now after installing them manually but finding them later is a whole other story. The bundle seems like a good idea in theory and there is some really cool stuff in it but how the packaging was handled is very poor. 

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733

    zombiecharger65 said:

    Here we are years later and I just bought this product and it is a total mess! All parts installed individually in DIM, which is fine and probably better. However, it has the wrong name on the bundle in smart content and in the content library. It shows as Madam Wicked Add-On and most of the files are there. I have chunks of the files only as well. For instance, Bryana for Beverly (for Brooke 8.1) has the textures only. Not the morph. No amount of searching and prodding has helped to find it. I then downloaded that package individually manually, copy paste and dropped it into the content library. 81 of 99 files were "replaced" which means that 18 files were missing from something I installed with DIM less than a month ago. Now I feel like I am going to have to go one by one and download all of this pack manually and drop them all into my Daz library by hand to see what other files are totally missing. I absolutely loathe having to search for things and Smart Content is king for me but this is a total mess. Its almost as bad as all the content creators from the other sites having their products ported over to Daz and not having any smart content. I stopped buying anything that I can tell lacks smart content. I have over 20,000 products and it gets super messy when I cannot use smart content to find stuff. Vendors are far too inconsistent with where they store the files to keep track of a library the size of mine. 

    Have you read from the top? File names and metadata issues have been identified and workarounds provided. I do not know of any more complications with DIM installations.

    The status of this product has not changed since the last update in June, 2023, so it is safe to assume that the same problems persist.

    Regarding Bryana for Beverly, there are no user-facing files for the shape, but there is one Control to dial her in (Parameters/Actor/People/Real World). You do need Beverly and Brooke (sort of) installed to get the proper shape. (Beverly uses Brooke, but Bryana removes Brooke and keeps the Beverly part)

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733

    Eh-h, cross-post...

    Technically the metadata is correct, but a Product can only have one name, so everything ends up in the same place. Yes, it could have been handled better, but that's the way it is.

    You could make some custom categories, one for each character, with the relevant assets. You could also make some presets for characters that do not have one.

     

  • NorthOf45 said:

    Eh-h, cross-post...

    Technically the metadata is correct, but a Product can only have one name, so everything ends up in the same place. Yes, it could have been handled better, but that's the way it is.

    You could make some custom categories, one for each character, with the relevant assets. You could also make some presets for characters that do not have one.

     

    Yes. I have had to do this with some other characters that were notoriously hard to track down in the library. Find the morph. Create a scene subset with the character and save it in a work in progress folder for later. It is just wild to me though because some of the characters have an "Actor/Character" file while most of them do not. Searching in the parameters tab brings the morph up if the morph was given the proper name (hopefully it is not one of those duplicate, commonly used names). It is definitely frustrating how the Smart Content portion was handled though. Smart Content is my biggest draw to using Daz content over content elsewhere purely because of my library size. I like to load a base figure and then let Smart Content tell me what is available for shaping, clothing, accessories, etc. This won't stop me from buying Mechasar products as the rest handle just fine in searches. Just sad that this cool pack and idea fell apart in presentation.

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  • MechasarMechasar Posts: 250

    I'm sorry for that issue, but there's nothing I can do but to open a ticket just like you. Anyway here's my advice I previously reported in other threads:

    • Manual downloading is still the best way to install this pack. Select and download the zip files that you need, then move them into the folder where all the other zip files are located for using the DIM manually.
    • Be sure to download all the parts of a single add-on (some files consist of multiple parts, e.g. part1of2, part1of3).
    • DO NOT install the add-on if you don't own the related product first. If you install an add-on but you don't have its basic product in your library, that may cause distortions in your Genesis models.
  • Mechasar said:

    I'm sorry for that issue, but there's nothing I can do but to open a ticket just like you. Anyway here's my advice I previously reported in other threads:

    • Manual downloading is still the best way to install this pack. Select and download the zip files that you need, then move them into the folder where all the other zip files are located for using the DIM manually.
    • Be sure to download all the parts of a single add-on (some files consist of multiple parts, e.g. part1of2, part1of3).
    • DO NOT install the add-on if you don't own the related product first. If you install an add-on but you don't have its basic product in your library, that may cause distortions in your Genesis models.

     Thanks. I do love the product now that I can find the parts (I bookmarked them so I won't have to search in the future). I installed all parts manually and all the missing files are in place now (not sure why the DIM install lost some files) and I do understand Daz handles the Smart Content portion. 

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,733
    edited June 2025

    90085 Mechasar Mega Add-Ons Pack 1 - Evil Pumpkin Addons Part 2 of 2 has finally been corrected, with a new part (-24 instead of the duplicated -08), but no other changes. It will appear in the Products section in DIM, not in the Product Updates, since it is technically a new file.

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