The biggest problem with DS that has yet to be solved.
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Really... Nothing kills my renders quicker.
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Click the little eye next to the toes to hide them.
Yup.
I always feel like *I* should have the option of turning off my toes when I wear uncomfortable shoes. Though, I suppose that would make walking more of a challenge...
I read a post the other day where a guy was grumping about having to have poses for shoes or hide the toes.. It was clear he has never worn women s shoes and felt that lovely compression. But without it we would all be wearing ugly boots shoes all the time.
It occured to me a truly clever PA with UV mapping skills could design the most intricate strappy footwear that is geografted to the foot using a UV map that utilizes the foot's texture.
Then even Rock trolls and other fugly footed characters could wear nice shoes with nice feet.
It's also clear that men design those uncomfortable shoes -- because I feel a woman would be reluctant to put her name on something akin to a torture device. :) And I prefer to just be barefoot! Except that I live in Wisconsin, so that's really not an option for 75% of the year. So... ugly boots it is!
Ha yeh; I never understood a women's delight in torturing herself, at least once I understood how painful they can be.
I've read some JD Robb (Nora Roberts) books about Eve Dallas, who wants to hunt down whoever is responsible for their invention and kill them. First time I read it made me laugh, and made look on the torture-devices - er high heels differently.
I don't see that as a problem with DS,. but a problem with the shoe design since I usually don't have that issue when I use the correct shoes on the correct figure.
I'm lucky, my girlfriend actually likes wearing heels, LOL.
Provided they're not too ridiculous I actually find heels more comfortable (not including slippers) I have wide, short, flat feet. Either heels tend to be wider in the box, or its something to do with how the weight sits.
Bit of a history note, heels were designed by men, but its generally thought that they were originally for other men
@khory I was looking at that thread wondering if the person had ever worn any shoes at all. I mean any closed shoe you want a bit of compression otherwise you just slide around and blister.
To answer the original question: There seem to be different schools of thought on the ideal setup for shoes and heels, but they pretty much all require a helper pose. Thankfully most shoes have them.
I hadn't thought of hiding the toes (shame on me!), but even the acrobatics I've put my characters through so that their toes aren't in the line of the camera have made it a problem that's reasonably easy to overcome. The one that annoys me more is the way that Daz clothes have to cling to the characters like a second skin. It's a lot easier to hide toes than it is to make shrink-wrapped breasts and fat rolls look remotely realistic. Cannon ball boobs and spray-painted spare tyres have murdered a lot more renders than shoes have here :)
More dynamic clothes would be helpful imo; trying to find some and then learn how to use them. The results ive had from the try out is looking promising. It takes longer than the render sometimes. But the realism is amazing.
Perhaps the problem is considering boots shoes ugly? Does social pressure outweigh toe pressure?
Ha yeh; I never understood a women's delight in torturing herself, at least once I understood how painful they can be.
I've read some JD Robb (Nora Roberts) books about Eve Dallas, who wants to hunt down whoever is responsible for their invention and kill them. First time I read it made me laugh, and made look on the torture-devices - er high heels differently.
Personally I feel that it's the high heels and not the flat boots that are ugly. They also damage your feet:
"Using revolutionary 3D scanning technology, researchers at North London’s Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital have created an image of a contorted, misshapen female foot in a high-heeled shoe. For the first time ever, the animation, which was compiled from hundreds of 2D scans of patients’ feet, allows doctors to see the effects of wearing high heels "in real time", providing irrefutable evidence of the long-term damage caused by wearing such shoes."
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/27/study_wearing_high_heels_causes_long_term_foot_damage_clawing_of_the_toes/
That's probably why bikini pics are so popular ;)
Also, you might find this useful: http://www.daz3d.com/clothing-breast-fixes-for-genesis-2-female
Have you heard George Clooney's story of working as a shoe salesman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPG5cLB3bY
When I was buying outfits for the gals I would, most of the time, pass up battle outfits that came with only a high heel boot or shoe. I would just laugh. I still laugh at the artists that draw comic heroines in them as I would think "Wonder Woman would kick your ass if you told her she had to actually wear those stupid things while battling the Cheetah.. hell Cheetah would laugh at her!" lol
On the other hand my battle mages always wore high heeled thigh boots. I mean really..if you have to run and wear a bunch of ugly armor your going to loose the battle anyway. And the whole "a woman can't be sexy and strong or powerful at the same time" thing really grinds my gears.
Well you and I will have to agree to disagree there hon. I think a battle mage can still look powerful and sexy but be in flats. Flats can be sexy if they are designed right. ;-)
Yea.. I'm guessing you have never spent any time being a smaller than average height woman.. Wearing heels means you can look people in the eye. Flats make you look younger and less assertive.
Hahaha... well then there's that! ....
I would have looked pretty stupid if I had worn High heels with the uniform I used to wear on the reenactment battle field, but I do have to admit that there were no mages on our battle field. I am very much height challenged, being 5ft but I held my own and won a battlefield promotion at one of the big battles we took part in.. So 5ft tall female managing to do that is not bad.
YAY Cho! :-)
There are several fantasy outfits that have flat boots. They're somewhat old, but still good. For example, the Death Bringer, Fantasy Assassins, Briana Culaith outfits. Perfect for a Red Sonja render... :lol: DM's Summoner on Rendo is good too.
Then you just have to counter with attitude. :) My 5' tall self has cowed 6' tall teenage boys wearing nothing more assertive than jeans, sneakers, and graphic T's with fantasy landscapes on them. (Though, let's face it, at 5', the only heels that are going to get me anywhere close to the same height as my male friends are the type that end up with me walking in these tiny, mincing steps that do *nothing* for my air of authority because the heel is longer than the length of my foot.)
Then you just have to counter with attitude. :) My 5' tall self has cowed 6' tall teenage boys wearing nothing more assertive than jeans, sneakers, and graphic T's with fantasy landscapes on them. (Though, let's face it, at 5', the only heels that are going to get me anywhere close to the same height as my male friends are the type that end up with me walking in these tiny, mincing steps that do *nothing* for my air of authority because the heel is longer than the length of my foot.)
Totally. My first husband, father of my 2 sons, is almost 6ft 2 and my eldest son, while not quite matching his father in height, was almost 6 foot, but guess who wore the trousers in our house? And I actually have never worn very high heels, I preferred to wear kitten heels as looking more in scale with my height, rarely wore anything higher than a 2 inch heel. I actually prefer to wear trouser suits and basically low heel or flat shoes and boots. Cowboy boots being my fave type of boots.
Oh I didn't say it was impossible to "cow" other people with out heels. I can be as mean and assertive as anyone else in tennis shoes. But the often the difference is if you actually need to assert yourself or if the assertion is a given.
The politics of heels is really not limited to women. Of two nearly identical males who do you think people will see as stronger, the guy in tennis shoes or the guy in cowboy boots? Who would you expect to have more power, a guy in wingtips or a guy in a pair loafers? Cowboy boots are accepted as work attire suitable for the field and barn yet they have constricting pointy toes and heel at least 1 inch and often closer to two inches (and in a few cases more).. Women wear a shoe with similar characteristics and people want insinuate that they are somehow hindered.
Why is it that my 5' 8.5" daughter absolutely loves to wear 3"++ heels?
I'm 6' and absolutely hate it...makes me feel old or something...
Any way...back to the original topic of this thread...FG...did you check for a correction pose for the shoes? A lot of shoes require the correction poses (of course, if they are converted shoes, the correction poses may no longer work/be applicable).
I admit it has been a while since I wore cowboy boots, and maybe it is something in the construction, but I don't remember them pinching the way women's heels do. I think that the toe point actually starts further down the toes than the toe point on a woman's pump, but I can't be sure.
I mean, the original use of heels was to make stirrups more useful. When wearing heels, your feet don't slip out, giving the rider better control. So I don't mind reasonable height, nice chunky heels on fighting characters. I just know (yes, from experience) that stiletto heels have this tendency to sink into the ground ... so I find their use with armor to be a stretch too far.
And, as I said, at my height, I can either wear low heels and still have to actively assert authority, or ridiculously (for me) high heels that undermine any authority I pick up from the height as soon as I start walking, making me have to actively assert authority.
I'll save myself the twisted ankle.