Royalty Free Images

troy-2582662troy-2582662 Posts: 1
edited December 1969 in The Commons

Hello everyone, and I must say there is a lot of talented people on this site.

In buying images from this site can I use them on my product to resell ?

Say I make coffee cups, can I put the image on the cups and sell them ?

Thanks for your time,

Troy

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,847
    edited December 1969

    First off welcome!
    secondly, I am not sure where you are seeing 'images" for sale. This site offers a free program (Daz Studio) where you can add and pose 3D meshes so you can produce your own images (renders, art) and animations. In addition to can purchase extra content to add to the app to create higher quality images and/or animations. There are also a few other programs that use some of the same content that you can purchase such as carrara.

    You can use Daz Studio to create your own art to add to products that you want to sell such as the coffee cups, but it must be your own work. If you wish to use an image belonging to another artist you must contact that artist and have a contract between to two of you for such usage.

  • troy-2582662troy-2582662 Posts: 1
    edited December 1969

    That explains everything. Thanks so much for you time.

  • ilseturnbullilseturnbull Posts: 135
    edited December 1969

    I thought we were allowed to use the stuff in DAZ - not for gaming, I understand we can't do that but I read this -

    Best of all, ownership of any images or animations produced with DAZ installable content, including Genesis figures, belongs to you. Use them as book covers, posters, banners, or whatever you choose to create. They are all yours to do with and sell as you please. DAZ enables you to be the artist behind jaw-dropping scenes.

    A|m I misunderstanding this?

  • MegonNoelMegonNoel Posts: 381
    edited December 1969

    I thought we were allowed to use the stuff in DAZ - not for gaming, I understand we can't do that but I read this -

    Best of all, ownership of any images or animations produced with DAZ installable content, including Genesis figures, belongs to you. Use them as book covers, posters, banners, or whatever you choose to create. They are all yours to do with and sell as you please. DAZ enables you to be the artist behind jaw-dropping scenes.

    A|m I misunderstanding this?

    What part aren't you sure about?
    You are correct, you can make images with DAZ Studio and then use those images or animations for whatever you like. The game license is only if you want to use the actual 3D mesh in a 3D game - if you're just using rendered images you don't need any special license.
    What is it that you'd like to make that you're not sure about?

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 1969

    troy said:
    ...In buying images from this site can I use them on my product to resell ?...

    I'm afraid that by saying "in buying images from this site", it makes your intent unclear. You don't "buy" images from DAZ. You use products from DAZ to help make your own images.

  • ilseturnbullilseturnbull Posts: 135
    edited December 1969

    Thank you for clearing that up, MegonNoel, that was what I understood. It was the comment by FSMCDesigns, above that got me confused "You can use Daz Studio to create your own art to add to products that you want to sell such as the coffee cups, but it must be your own work. If you wish to use an image belonging to another artist you must contact that artist and have a contract between to two of you for such usage."

    I just want to make sure I don't overstep. I have 0 skills right now, and planned to buy some products and tweak them a little and then use them for covers for my own books, on my site for 'stills' things like that, to help promote the books. I know I won't be changing things a lot at this point.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,847
    edited December 1969

    Not sure what part you misunderstood from my post. As long as it's "your" rendered image, you can do what you want with it. If you are altering existing content, you should be fine as long as it is for a render or animation and not using the altered content for other purposes.

  • ilseturnbullilseturnbull Posts: 135
    edited December 1969

    I'm sorry Michael, I didn't mean my post to be negative against you. What I was confused about was this "You can use Daz Studio to create your own art" To me, if I buy a product that's not 'my' art, that's the work of someone else, changing it a bit still doesn't feel like it's my creation, I just fiddled with someone else's hard work. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't getting into trouble.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited April 2015

    If you buy a coffee cup 3D model here and render a 2D image of that cup with DAZ Studio, Poser, Carrara, etc, that 2D image is your work and you can use it however you want. If you find a pretty 2D picture of a cup here on the gallery or on the product promo images then you can't use it without making an agreement first with whoever owns that 2D image.

    Edit: all that being said, if you need a 3D model of a coffee cup, don't buy one, there is a very nice free one that allows commercial use of the resultant 2D renders.
    Daz Studio version: http://www.sharecg.com/v/77704/view/21/DAZ-Studio/Coffee-Cup-Mug-Prop-Daz-FIXED
    Poser Version: http://www.sharecg.com/v/77449/gallery/11/Poser/Coffee-Mug-Prop-Poser-Version

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  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Fisty said:
    If you buy a coffee cup 3D model here and render a 2D image of that cup with DAZ Studio, Poser, Carrara, etc, that 2D image is your work and you can use it however you want. If you find a pretty 2D picture of a cup here on the gallery or on the product promo images then you can't use it without making an agreement first with whoever owns that 2D image.

    Edit: all that being said, if you need a 3D model of a coffee cup, don't buy one, there is a very nice free one that allows commercial use of the resultant 2D renders.
    Daz Studio version: http://www.sharecg.com/v/77704/view/21/DAZ-Studio/Coffee-Cup-Mug-Prop-Daz-FIXED
    Poser Version: http://www.sharecg.com/v/77449/gallery/11/Poser/Coffee-Mug-Prop-Poser-Version

    And doesn't someone have a pretty decent coffee pot...to fill it with?

    I wonder who that is... ;-)

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited April 2015

    To me, if I buy a product that's not 'my' art, that's the work of someone else, changing it a bit still doesn't feel like it's my creation, I just fiddled with someone else's hard work.

    There is a lot of work that goes into a good render, even something as simple as a coffee mug, what are going to put it on? What kind of environment is it supposed to be in? That will determine what kind of light setup you use, even sightly different light settings and positions will drastically change the final render.. most ceramic mugs are highly glazed and will reflect their surrounding environment so you have to chose what else you put around it that it will reflect even if it's not directly visible in the final image, etc, etc.

    I pay my rent and feed my family by making 3D models for people to "fiddle" with. Trust me, we like seeing when people use our work to make art, the rent not withstanding, it's very gratifying to see what people with more creativity than myself can come up with.

    There is a name for it, compositional artists.
    No one (anymore) argues that photographers are artists. They didn't make the fruit in the bowl they're photographing, the trees did that. They probably didn't make the bowl either, a potter did. They likely didn't make the model posing all pretty, his/her mother did. They also likely didn't make the clothes that model is wearing, a tailor or designer did. They didn't make the mountains or streams or trees, but no one is going to argue that an artfully framed and exposed photograph of scenery isn't art.

    And just like photography there are lots of snapshops in 3D that I wouldn't call art really, there are a lot on these forums.. people testing out different techniques, showing off different products, etc. Even my promotional images I wouldn't call art for the most part, they're made to show off the 3D model and that is usually at odds with artistic presentation.

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  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited April 2015

    mjc1016 said:
    And doesn't someone have a pretty decent coffee pot...to fill it with?

    LOL


    Poser main: http://fisty.blackraven3d.com/freebies/CoffeePotLD.zip
    Daz Studio additional files: http://fisty.blackraven3d.com/freebies/CoffeePotLD_DScontent.zip
    Template (UV Map): http://fisty.blackraven3d.com/freebies/coffeepotLDtemplate.bmp

    (I really should update that to 4.6+ and put it on ShareCG one of these days)

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited December 1969

    I will add one tiny tidbit to "It must be your render" bit.

    Some of us here are doing this as a Hobby, and are not looking for any kind of compensation at all. Some may prefer a mention of there name somewhere on the product listing as 'credit to' of sorts, possibly.

    Others, like me, Making money at this is the last thing I want. I'm here for having fun with Daz studio, and am extremely new. Some things I don't even care if my name is even credited, and I'll file it under CC0 (Public Domain). I know there are others that also make 'free art' as well.

    So pleas, look around, enjoy. And don't be afraid to ask. The artist may be thrilled at the thought of his or her art on a coffee cup.

    FYI. What is "CC0".
    The person who associated a work with this deed has dedicated the work to the public domain by waiving all of his or her rights to the work worldwide under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights, to the extent allowed by law.

    You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission.
    http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited April 2015

    I will add one tiny tidbit to "It must be your render" bit.

    Some of us here are doing this as a Hobby, and are not looking for any kind of compensation at all. Some may prefer a mention of there name somewhere on the product listing as 'credit to' of sorts, possibly.

    Others, like me, Making money at this is the last thing I want. I'm here for having fun with Daz studio, and am extremely new. Some things I don't even care if my name is even credited, and I'll file it under CC0 (Public Domain). I know there are others that also make 'free art' as well.

    So pleas, look around, enjoy. And don't be afraid to ask. The artist may be thrilled at the thought of his or her art on a coffee cup.

    FYI. What is "CC0".
    The person who associated a work with this deed has dedicated the work to the public domain by waiving all of his or her rights to the work worldwide under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights, to the extent allowed by law.

    You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission.
    http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

    However it is better to assume that people's images are not under a Creative Commons declaration, to be honest. More people retain their copyright than don't.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 8,050
    edited December 1969

    By purchasing content through DAZ, you get a license to use the content in renders and animation, (the resulting artistic render is yours to do with) but the content creator always retains copyright ownership of the original content, unless it is sold to DAZ with a buyout. In copyright law USE and OWNERSHIP are two very different things. Always read the End Users License Agreement. EULA

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Another point to add, just because an artist may allow an individual to use their work under certain circumstances and conditions does not mean they have surrendered their copyright and thereby, their control over how the work is used. If the artist retains copyright, the authorized user may not alter the original work or use the work in a "questionable" manner without obtaining permission from the copyright holder.

    The only way an individual can gain full control over a work is to purchase the copyright from the holder. This is far from cheap. Unless it is part of the contract, I do not recommend relinquishing copyright.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited April 2015

    icprncss said:
    Another point to add, just because an artist may allow an individual to use their work under certain circumstances and conditions does not mean they have surrendered their copyright and thereby, their control over how the work is used. If the artist retains copyright, the authorized user may not alter the original work or use the work in a "questionable" manner without obtaining permission from the copyright holder.

    The only way an individual can gain full control over a work is to purchase the copyright from the holder. This is far from cheap. Unless it is part of the contract, I do not recommend relinquishing copyright.

    I agree. I once did a series of images and sold the copyright. That was a good weeks work for me. I got €1500 for the series. Commissions like that don't come up often. They were used on scarves and candles as tourism items.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    icprncss said:
    Another point to add, just because an artist may allow an individual to use their work under certain circumstances and conditions does not mean they have surrendered their copyright and thereby, their control over how the work is used. If the artist retains copyright, the authorized user may not alter the original work or use the work in a "questionable" manner without obtaining permission from the copyright holder.

    The only way an individual can gain full control over a work is to purchase the copyright from the holder. This is far from cheap. Unless it is part of the contract, I do not recommend relinquishing copyright.

    I agree. I once did a series of images and sold the copyright. That was a good weeks work for me. I got €1500 for the series. Commissions like that don't come up often. They were used on scarves and candles as tourism items.

    I'm sorry you couldn't retain your copyright. Were you at least given credit as the artist? I hope you got credit and it generated more business for you.

    Everything done in-house is held by the owners unless the client buys the copyright. If the work is retained in-house, I do have some say and get credit. If they sell the copyright, I do get a percentage. So at least I get something.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:
    chohole said:
    icprncss said:
    Another point to add, just because an artist may allow an individual to use their work under certain circumstances and conditions does not mean they have surrendered their copyright and thereby, their control over how the work is used. If the artist retains copyright, the authorized user may not alter the original work or use the work in a "questionable" manner without obtaining permission from the copyright holder.

    The only way an individual can gain full control over a work is to purchase the copyright from the holder. This is far from cheap. Unless it is part of the contract, I do not recommend relinquishing copyright.

    I agree. I once did a series of images and sold the copyright. That was a good weeks work for me. I got €1500 for the series. Commissions like that don't come up often. They were used on scarves and candles as tourism items.

    I'm sorry you couldn't retain your copyright. Were you at least given credit as the artist? I hope you got credit and it generated more business for you.

    Everything done in-house is held by the owners unless the client buys the copyright. If the work is retained in-house, I do have some say and get credit. If they sell the copyright, I do get a percentage. So at least I get something.


    At the time I was just pleased to get a commission, it was my first when I tried making money from my art, after becoming redundant for the first time in my life less than 3 years before statutory UK retirement age. I didn't do too well selling at another site, plenty of people downloaded my freebies, but few bought my commercial packs. I later found that I could actually make a bit with my textures and the (then) ShareCG ad revenue. Then later the donate button on my own website. Those original designs (which were just that basically, fabric designs) did at least get me started and encouraged me to keep trying.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited December 1969

    I know you love making freebies (so do I) but if you ever are in need of living expense money your textures are totally good enough to be in the Daz store, Chohole, and you have a beautiful style that no one else has.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited April 2015

    Fisty said:
    I know you love making freebies (so do I) but if you ever are in need of living expense money your textures are totally good enough to be in the Daz store, Chohole, and you have a beautiful style that no one else has.

    Thanks Fisty, I don appreciate that.

    I am fully retired now, so have pensions to provide living expenses.

    My trouble nowadays with textures is that I am working with older technology, ie Poser (older version) and no Genesis, still using Gen 4.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited December 1969

    MFD fits everyone ;)

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Fisty said:
    MFD fits everyone ;)

    One map to rule them all....

    Well, sort of...old Steph has her very own version. But just about everybody else...though I have noticed some horrible stretching when you put the MFD on the Gorilla.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:
    Fisty said:
    MFD fits everyone ;)

    One map to rule them all....

    Well, sort of...old Steph has her very own version. But just about everybody else...though I have noticed some horrible stretching when you put the MFD on the Gorilla.

    How surprising :coolsmirk:

  • cccccc Posts: 3

    Hello everyone! I am new to the forum. I hope you all are well.

    I have some doubts after reading the whole thread.

    I'm not interested in selling Daz 3d meshes.
    I just want to sell 2D images generated by Daz products I bought.
    I do matte painting to video or still images.

    For example ... I recently purchased a cemetery on this website.
    ¿I can sell my rendering of the cemetery and mix with my photographs?
    ¿I can tweak the cememterio, remove items etc? ¿I can mix the cemetery with another product Daz? For example with a horse carriage.

    I'm talking about selling 2D images and video.

    Thank you very much in advance and sorry for my poor English.

  • ccc said:

    Hello everyone! I am new to the forum. I hope you all are well.

    I have some doubts after reading the whole thread.

    I'm not interested in selling Daz 3d meshes.
    I just want to sell 2D images generated by Daz products I bought.
    I do matte painting to video or still images.

    For example ... I recently purchased a cemetery on this website.
    ¿I can sell my rendering of the cemetery and mix with my photographs?
    ¿I can tweak the cememterio, remove items etc? ¿I can mix the cemetery with another product Daz? For example with a horse carriage.

    I'm talking about selling 2D images and video.

    Thank you very much in advance and sorry for my poor English.

    Yes, as long as you've purchased all the pieces in the render. Chohole or Chris can find you the relevant bit of the EULA, and explain it to you in detail if you need.

    From what I understand from your statement, you are completely within your rights to do that. If you get freebies, stick to the ones that grant Commercial use or state that there are no license restrictions.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
     

    From what I understand from your statement, you are completely within your rights to do that. If you get freebies, stick to the ones that grant Commercial use or state that there are no license restrictions.

    I'll say it, from the perspective of a freebie maker, all my stuff is 'commercial render friendly'...but not everyone thinks the way I do, so all the other providers have as varied usage policies as there are creators of the products.  My only concern, for the majority of my stuff, is that is not redistributed...

  • mjc1016 said:
     

    From what I understand from your statement, you are completely within your rights to do that. If you get freebies, stick to the ones that grant Commercial use or state that there are no license restrictions.

    I'll say it, from the perspective of a freebie maker, all my stuff is 'commercial render friendly'...but not everyone thinks the way I do, so all the other providers have as varied usage policies as there are creators of the products.  My only concern, for the majority of my stuff, is that is not redistributed...

    Thus my statement. It's something one must watch for if they're going to do business with the software.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    All my freebies are okay for commercial renders, and most of them I don't care if they're redistributed either as long as they stay intact and aren't sold.

  • cccccc Posts: 3

    Muchas gracias a todos!

     

    Pero ahora tengo más preguntas.

     

    Hago un paisaje. con mis imágenes con montañas, ríos, árboles, etc.

    en el fondo ... Puse un castillo que he comprado en Daz. Este castillo ocupa 10% de la imagen final y es un objeto adicional dentro de la imagen. todo en 2D.

    No puedo vender esta imagen final? ¿Hay autores que no permiten esto?

     

    Si esto es así ... ¿Qué razón ha comprado Daz?

     

    ¿Es sólo por diversión en casa?

    ¿Cómo saber que los autores permiten renderizado 2D para vender?

     

    Por favor, te perdone por estas preguntas. Pero yo no quiero violar cualquier ley.

     

    Gracias de nuevo por sus respuestas.

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