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On the issue of buying licenses for a large collection of products, Daz agrees this is a good point and will review the situation next week.
this 3D printing licnse thing is so cool. Now I can legally sell items that I can;t get to print anyway. BTW, I bought that free course some time ago...do I get a refund?
So that they can make money from those who miss out and have to purchase them when they actually need something printed.
You can automate those purchases using any macro recorder or autohotkey if you are comfortable with scriptiing.
if I have a license for Victoria 8 and dress her with a PA product that is not licensed, then I could not sell said 3d print?
As near as I can tell, the Vendors are bound by the contractual terms of the DAZ EULA due to the item being sold via a DAZ license, so this would seem to restrict one to only using DAZ Original items... or items from another 3D store. What do you want to bet that Renderosity and other store artists are going to be jumping all over this loophole while exclusively DAZ PAs will be left out in the cold?
Yep -- my products go back to Zygote too -- baffled how we are supposed to get these licenses.
Crescent said:
I won't say how many items I own but I was a customer before DAZ existed - when it was still part of Zygote. I was using Poser 2 at the time. (Poser 1 was Mac only.) I am NOT gonig to spend my life clicking the license button on various product pages, trying to out-race the heat death of the sun.
somehwat a workaround to all these licenses What if you just license the main characters, and the Essential bundles ... then morph them ... or do you need license for the morphs as well? So G8 Essentials gives you a variety right out of the box . Then a few others. That way you dont need a license for 2500 products or whatever.
Well if a new license would have to be purchased for every 20 printed models sold I doubt many would even try selling anything at all.
You might want to set a very high number so that solo sellers, small businesses, small and medium shops can sell freely with the license.
Also there is anyway no serialization on printing, no DRM anything so how would DAZ think about enforcing that worldwide ? Who checks how many prints have been sold by anyone ?
I can get that DAZ doesn't want the license to be unlimited royalty free then ? But nothing is in the EULA telling anything about limits anyway so far...
Still if DAZ wants more money for large quantities of 3D prints being sold then something like higher than 50,000 prints a new "large volume" license should be bought... or something like that.. if DAZ thinks about getting a percentage on sales worldwide.
Otherwise I doubt that many people worldwide would bother. Either they would not follow the EULA with a low limit .. and finding out who sells small quantities in most countries wouldn't be that easy for any business DAZ included (other than very expensive with lawyers internationally ... millions wasted to check for and enforce the rule on everyone) .. or just would not sell anything to avoid any trouble.
Trying to get a percentage out of every single sale by solo freelancers selling 3D prints and small businesses worldwide would end up costing more than just having a "large volume" license model for big businesses that would manage making millions out of 3D printed models...
How can one get the 3D printing licence for the Qube?
I just added & got free the 78 products I would be most likely to 3D print, many of them bundles with many products themselves, I was most likely to 3D print since they are free for a short time and that was enough. $1.99 for anything I might want at a later date but didn't get today is not unreasonable. I will probably only ever print one scene as a curiousity for the curiousity of it and that'll be it. At least it's unambiguous now that I may.
I just hope that if Daz find a way of a way of automatically adding 3D licenses to my items, even though I've already added a few myself (I don't have the patience to do 60 items over 100+ pages).
I won't be selling anything I print, but I think one license for 20 prints is a waste of time. How many NFTs or games can creators make on an interactive license, before they have to buy another one?
The 3D Printing licence is not about printing for oneself, but for selling the printed items.
I think the orange banner appeared before this feature was fully deployed, and there must have been some caching issues at play too...
When I first tried to purchase a 3D Printing License for the Aiko 8 Pro Bundle (purchased before July 12, 2022) by clicking the checkbox and then clicking the Purchased button, it added the product and the license to the cart.
The 3D Printing License price changed to $0.00, but the $42.52 product was added too, making it seem like I would have to repurchase the product to get the free 3D Printing License?
And then when you try to remove the product, but keep the 3D Printing License in the cart, it removes the product and the licenses.
So I don't need the licenses if I want to print for myself?
I know I can be "a few gunmen short of a posse", but it would've been nice to have that pointed out before I wasted the last half an hour adding licenses to older content.
What if you print a figure as a gift? Would you still need a license?
it will all be obsolete soon when MidJourney, Dall-E etc can do 3D
a few more papers
what a time to be alive
Forget it. I can't work out if the site is borked, or if it's just my computer.
I can confirm that the conversion to "free" does not work for all DAZ Original. I tried to add the license for Monique 8*. A pure DAZOriginals without any other author attached to it. And I own the Model since the release of the Monique 8 Pro Bundle in 2018. The store tries to charge 1.39 for it, while the "free" license for DAZ Dog 8 worked totally fine in the same cart.
*Edit: I meant Monique 8 not 6 *facepalm* Adding her via pro bundle in a cart worked. oO What the heck?
I've just got the license for Lilith 6 Pro Bundle for free... This is doing my head in.
I upload my prints through the Gameprint pluggin for cleanup before I print them. How does this new system interact with that?
Just adding my voice here to say how very, very displeasing the idea of adding all the 'free' licenses I'm entitled to to my cart would be. Punish those who've spent the most, Daz? Am I 3D printing? Not today. Am I likely to start selling 3d prints? No. Would giving me the free licenses be goodwill building? Yes.
Would making me miss out if I don't want to spend literally hours opening every damn product page for ...let's see, probably over 10k Daz Originals I've ended up owning... generate ill will? Oh, hell it will.
I'm displeased with the license creep as it is. Eventually, it's going to turn out that all our basic licenses are just for personal use and not even for rendering finished images or something.
The EULA grants the right to 3D print for personal use without additional licences, but on top of that the Addendum 5, lets the user to sell the printed items if the user has bought the additional 3D printing licence.
Also just wanted to say - it looks like the Daz Deals plugin may be hiding the checkboxes on the product page. If you're having troubles adding just the license, disable the plugin.
Yes, that does mean you have to somehow find all the Daz Originals you've purchased without being able to sort by 'only purchased'. Daz hates you, that's all there is to it. The license will still show it's cost on the store page, but it will be zero in your cart.
if anyone can get this DAZ stuff to print, please do a complete and full step by step instructions with explanations for those challenged by all of this stuff. Thank you in advance.
I tried one bundle and it came as $13 for license ... the PA stuff has a higher license fee.
As I said above, Daz dos acknowledge that this is an issue and will be looking to see what can be done next week.
Nothing has been taken away, a new option has been added.
Nobody was referring to the number of 3D prints made. It's about already owning large numbers of products and not desiring to add licenses to them all [hundreds of them] one by one ;-)
Just checking... So Monique 6 Starter Bundle (I'm not a bundle type of guy, so I grabbed the one I turned up)... I "bought" this bundle for $ 0.- on the 29th July 2022, because I owned all the parts already. Trying to get the "3d print loicense" is supposed to cost me $ 6.97 (product page, incl. 30% off for DAZ+) which changes to... drumroll... $ 9.95 in the shopping bag.
Trying to get the licenses for the five items of the starter pack, which came in my possession 2019-07-01 (!) when I bought the Monique Pro Bundle gives me a shopping cart with... drumroll again... $ 9.95 to be paid, because all five items are NOW supposed to have been bought on the 29th July 2020...
Only when I try to get the license for the Monique 6 Pro Bundle it ends up as "free" in the shopping cart...
Wow... really?
Fun fact: I don't own a 3d printer. I don't need a 3d printer. I probably never will buy a 3d printer. I surely never intend to do any 3d prints of DAZ stuff, as what I've seen up to now looks mostly rather sh**** blunt and lacks details... so I don't really have any NEED to get these licenses. But still, seeing how effed up this whole process seems to be from DAZland's side, leaves a really sour taste in my mouth...
Are you sure nothing has been taken away with the EULA?
I saved a copy of the EULA on November 2, 2017 and this was the original Addendum 5.0... originally it defined Addendum 5.0 as a Commercial 3D Print Add-On License with a limit of Twenty (20) on the number of 3D prints you could make with that Content...
For any User who has purchased one or more Commercial 3D Print Add-On Licenses via the DAZ store, the terms of this Addendum 5.0 apply to all Content that the User has purchased such a Commercial 3D Print Add-On License for.
All Content that can be identified according to the above criteria shall hereinafter be referred to as “Print Content”. The terms of this addendum 5.0 do not apply to any other Content.
For all Print Content the creation of three-dimensional physical representations of the Print Content or any three-dimensional art derived from the Print Content is permitted for personal as well as commercial use by the User so long as it is produced by 3D Printing. The number of such Commercial prints allowed to be made of the Content by the purchase of a Commercial 3D Print Add-On License for that Content is limited to Twenty (20).
In order to produce more than twenty commercial 3D prints of Content User should contact Daz 3D customer service by opening a support ticket and request the ability to purchase additional Commercial 3D Print Add-On Licenses for the Content.
It appears this limit has been removed in the latest revised EULA, along with the original distinction of Commercial 3D Print Add-On License changed simply to 3D Print Add-On License...
5.0 3D Print Add-On License
For any User who has purchased one or more 3D Print Add-On Licenses via the DAZ store, the terms of this 3D Print Add-On License (this “Addendum 5.0”) apply to all Content for which the User has purchased such a 3D Print Add-On License.
All Content that can be identified according to the criteria stated above in this Addendum 5.0 shall hereinafter be referred to as "Print Content". The terms of this Addendum 5.0 do not apply to any Content other than the Print Content.
The creation of three-dimensional physical representations of the Print Content or any three-dimensional art derived from the Print Content is permitted for personal as well as commercial use by the User so long as it is produced by 3D Printing.
I started going through my product library, and my Commercial Game Developer License for Daz Originals, and Indie Game Developer Licenses for Polish Workshop, Rawart, Merlin Studios, and Dzfire now just "spin" with no link to Order History... I can only guess all of these were rolled into the 3.0 Interactive License Addendum?
There's nothing more unsettling than spending thousands of dollars on additional EULA addendums, just to have the terms of agreement suddenly change later...
At least in the case of 3D printing in Addendum 5.0 it's in the favor of End Users with no more limit on the number of prints; and for DAZ too, no more support tickets to "request the ability to purchase additional Commercial 3D Print Add-On Licenses for the Content."
MIdJourney is just freaking scarey, as it means that a lot of people who used to hire artists will now decide that they can do it all themselves by typing a few requests, and emulate some artist's styles so closely that it's almost iondistinguishable from the real thing. Brian Habberlin (co creator of Witchblade and Anomoly) did a panel on AI at Comic Con and, at the very least, he postulated that it could devastate the market for clip and stock art.
Sure! Right after I get my refund for the copy of DAZ Studio 4 Pro I bought when it came out, long before DAZ decided to give it away for free. Well, unless your definition of "some time ago" means less than 30 days. ;)