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Not only didn't the licences add, they want to charge $1.39 for the according to the item I tried to add.
Dear DAZ, you should run a script at your end to automatically grant them to us. To expect us to add them manually is just plain lazy.
It is for if you want to do a 3D print of the video
I don't think this has been handled well. I'll check back later. The JS on the frontend, that handles license, is currently giving status 500 error, so it's an unexpected condition.*
*It's broken.
Someone at DAZ has not really thought through this deployment. The reason no one can add any 3D license to their cart is because the service for handling these is already down, the network request for adding returns 500, which means "internal server error", which is usually not a good thing: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/500
The service is most likely completely overwhelmed by people trying to add thousands of DAZ Originals to their cart one by one.
So everyone trying to add these, please stop! And let me add mine first...
Maybe we can draw sticks or something who gets to go first?
I *will* go through my 172 pages of products and add the print licenses manually, but I'd rather pay daz 10 or 20 bucks to do it automatically.
WTH can't DAZland just use a effing parser going over their customer archive, flag the products that need the effing license and adjust the data to "licensed for 3d printing" internally? It's not rocket science.
If we really end up having to manually (!) get this effing license for each and every single product we use... wow... amateurish is the friendliest description I can think of...
Why not? 1) laziness/cost. 2) if they don't, we will need to pay further down the road because anyone with any sense of the value of time won't waste theirs on this exercise.
It's important to note that so far, the "free before..." is just for DAZ originals, not items still owned by their creators. I'm eager to see what prices licenses for other items might be. So far, items that are DO with creators names listed as well are higher than $1.99, which makes sense.
-- Walt Sterdan
Exactly; of the 18,000+ Items I have in DIM, how many am I *really* going to print *for sale* at some point? Not 18,000, or probably even 1,000... more realistically less than a handful a print, and if I'm actually going to sell them, paying as I go really won't add up to much, far less than -- as you mention -- the time spent purchasing free licenses for thousands of items that will never be needed.
-- Walt Sterdan
On the store page, it says "a free license" as in ONE from previously puchased prior to July 12
Very good point, not "all", and it certainly would explain their unreadiness. I suspect you're 100% correct, they intended to give away one free license per customer.
Potential problem: How do I buy a license for a DAZ original that's no longer in the store?
-- Walt Sterdan
If they meant only *one* free license, then this is quite a misleading way to formulate that:
I think they probably meant what they said, get "free 3D Printing Licenses for any Daz Orignal Items you owned before July 12".
However, it also says "for any Daz Original items", not "for a Daz Original item", so if it's supposed to be implying one licence in total, it's not doing a good job of being clear.
I wouldn't buy the licenses separately - I don't have an immediate use for them, and it'd be too much cost and hassle - but $10-$20 to add all of them at once would be attractive.
They certainly need to provide more clarity in plain English.
The banner clearly means all DOs you purchased prior to July 12:
Who could have ever anticipated this would be a problem? lol
- Greg
Well, the orange banner I got says "licences" for DO "items".
I won't say how many items I own but I was a customer before DAZ existed - when it was still part of Zygote. I was using Poser 2 at the time. (Poser 1 was Mac only.) I am NOT gonig to spend my life clicking the license button on various product pages, trying to out-race the heat death of the sun.
Side note: there's a reason you should NEVER, EVER deploy new code on a Friday (or the day before a holiday), let alone have it hit on the weekend, unless you have 24/7 coverage. I used to work with a team that would do that all the time. I finally informed them I was turning my phone off Friday afternoons and wouldn't turn it back on until Monday mornings so they'd have to troubleshoot their code themselves during the inevitable 2am server fires they kept causing. The deployment policy got updated very quickly after that.
Honestly I don't really care. Has nothing to do with me. My products don't have interactive license option and will not have commercial print license options either.
Why Daz has different wording on different communications and web pages is something they will need to address.
Also irritating, the licensing terms indicate that you're allowed only 20 prints of an item before you need to purchase additional licensing for more. What? Is this some kind of standard thing or just a Daz cash grab? (I mean, they ARE a business, so everything is a cash grab, but doesn't that just seem extra grabby somehow?)
If the licenses are free I might try selling some 3D printed models of main characters for the 3D games I am developing as a solo indie developer later on if they sell enough copies then gadgets might be another option. But I might end up not selling any 3D printed models until I made 3 or 4 games I really have no clue for now.
Anyway yes they should just give the free licenses automatically to all customers. But obviously they probably thought that this way whoever didn't spend the time to add thousands of licenses to purchased products would end up paying for the license later on when the free offer expired at least for some products.
I can't see anything like that in the EULA ... ?
Where did you read that there is a limit of 20 prints sold per 3D printing license?
The EULA says nothing. No limits.
https://www.daz3d.com/eula
https://www.daz3d.com/commercial-print-license
Of course it's broken. I'm beginning to wonder if it's actually against DAZ policy to announce a major promotion and have it beta-tested in advance to see if it works properly or even does anything close to what what the advertising text says it does. As someone with over 17,000 DAZ originals in my collection, it's also apparent that there's no planned way to easily seperate out DAZ Originals that can't be printed due to the nature of the products (bundle package listings, tutorials, lights and HDRIs, carrara and Poser dynamic hair, DAZ+memberships), nor does there seem to be any way to add licenses to all of the older "retired" DAZ originals that are no longer officially in the store, despite many of those continuing to pop up in various sales as limited promotion items or as odd remnants only available in certain bundles. In short, once again wie have a great idea that's been completely hamstrung by a complete lack of forethought, preparation or common sense.
The really sad thing is that there could have been a simple and efficient way to do this, ie: adding an "add 3D printing license" option in the user product library, coupled with a filter to quickly find eligible items.
I managed to buy the 3D printing licence for Alabama HD (DO + Mousso), and the price changed to "Free" in my cart.
I then bought the licence for Sydney 8 Pro Bundle, again, it changed to "Free" in my cart.
So, at least some good news. The products qualify for the free licence even if the item is not a pure DO, and bundles count too.
Well, the good news is that the free licenses offer is good until September, so DAZ has that long to get this business straightened out.
The EULA is the legally binding document, the website is mere fluff in this regard. In my opinion, Daz forgot to edit the old part of the website about 3D printing.
I have zero problem going along with that interpretation, I tell you what.
If a 3d print licence only allows for 20 prints, how does that work when a figure I've created is an amalgam of a number of other figures?
For example:
I have a figure that is 20% Gianni 6 and 80% Michael 6, and I print 10 of these.
I have another figure who is 40% Gianni 6 and 60% Lee 6. Can I only print 10 of these because I've already printed 10 of the previous figure which also included Gianni 6?
And what about figures where I've included elements from 6 or 7 different figures? Am I expected to keep track of ALL the elements included and tick off one of each when I've printed one of these amalgam figures?
There are also 3D print licences for poses. Does that mean I can only print 20 figures in that pose, regardless of the figure, or is it 20 for Gianni, 20 for Michael, etc?
As for 3D print licences for textures... are there 3D printers that can print at that kind of resolution in true color?
Asking as a British guy on the autistic spectrum who needs answers to these kinds of questions.