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There are five things that really interest me today on top of the stuff in the toon sale at 60% off if you buy three new releases, which normally I'd consider because it's all stuff I want and could use, but I'll just wait. It's weird, because of the new price point this week, I've only bought two items that were both in fast grab which is not normal for me. I haven't even looked at the sales on the sales page that require new release buy-ins.
I did notice that daz is offering good discounts on older content if you buy one or two new releases. The problem is after i bought 1 o 2 new release's @ 20% to trigger the other discounts there no money left to buy the 60% offers
I hate having to follow a budget it really spoils the fun of impulse buying
I'm not going to argue over people finding 20% acceptable or not - it's up to everyone to set their budget, and decide at which, if any, point an up-front discount now balances the risk of buying and not using. However, saying that 20% (a fifth) off is the same as full price seems grossly over-hyped.
Well, in-house hobbies have actually been pretty popular during the past two years, with all the people quarantained and working from home. Online stores selling musical instruments like guitars and keyboards were surprisingly busy. Having some houseplants also suddenly became popular again. And a friend of mine who has a store selling wool, yarn, knitting and sewing supplies sold out on several products within days after the lockdown was lifted. Especially hobbies for which supplies could be obtained online did pretty good the past two years.
So, why would Daz be any different? With the supplies being exclusively available online, one would guess this would've been a perfect time to get more users. If it wasn't for the increasing prices, as well as the confusing marketing with NFTs and stuff like that, putting off potential customers instead.
This isn't a rant at Daz or anybody, it's just the way I feel.
For me, it's not really the change in the discount per se. But it's been clear for a while that Daz is expecting us to pay more for less - compare the pro bundles of a couple of years ago to bundle offers recently. Today had a new Stonemason set, which I always buy whether I can see a use for them or not - they're just that nice. The change in the starter price discount isn't a huge amount, but for me it's finally a step too far, so I'll forego the Mystic Gorge and buy some food for the dog instead. He's getting a bit thin anyway.
No sale for me today, either. (The new add-on for Zeus is wishlisted. The cost today is $5 more than I paid for the Sphinx add-on when it was released; and only $3.50 less that I paid for Zeus when it was released.) The Daz marketing changes over the last year, have pushed me passed my internal indulgence tolerance/threshold. I once purchased New Releases for specific PAs who consistently triggered the need to have and try their product on the first day. Now, I might check the store sales once or twice a week.
didnt even realize there was a Stonemason product today. Saw the pricing and skipped right over them. Scanned through the rest of the offers and found nothing that was really striking me as wow, what a discount. Its too bad too, as I was getting pretty spendy there for awhile.
Well then I stand corrected. Guess that just proved we don't all know about all the knowings.
support your favorite PA' a sale is a sale. I'll just go back over herebe over here in the corner.
after buying new PA stuff for 30% off for a very long time, 20% just doesn't cut it. Maybe if was always full price and then it was 20%, wow, it would be a great bargain. Perception is key.
March Madness sale will be a telling event.
Well, I'm not really bothered with whatever discount is or isn't used. By now, having accumulated quite a substantial library of content (and anything but a substantial budget
) all I do look at is the price that has to be paid. If I really want an asset, and the price feels right to me and within my budget, I'll buy it.....
Ha... +1 about mama's voice... and my car would have been RED! lol
I hoped they'd given up with this. It seem not. And you have to buy them to get even a 50% discount on the featured artists. The problem is I'm used to this being 30% / 50% on the artists and 60% if you buys something. You can't just change this and expect people not to see it as a > 10% increase in prices.
I can see my gift card is going to last a long time at this rate. Nobody's making me pay these prices, I can wait...
(On the plus side, the 2AM sales have stopped.)
you can just buy 2 things from the featured artists for 50% off if that helps
I noticed that! Maybe I will buy two
Seriously though, I don't actually want anything today, and I'm very patient when it comes to getting the prices I'm willing to pay...
I just want to feed back to anyone from Daz that reads these things that personally it just means I'll spend less.
I'll only pay what I think something is worth, and that perception is based on how much it, and other similar items cost in the past. When it comes to assessing that, Daz has conditioned me to think more in terms of percentage discounts rather than absolute prices, so a 10% increase feels enormous. Except it's not a 10% increase...
(Correct me if I'm wrong.)
But it's their site, they can charge what they like, and my money, and I can buy what I like, so again, this is really just feedback.
Thanks for breaking that down and posting here because I have this truthteller syndrome that urges me to point out misdirection and obfuscation, but I've been resisting it recently for the sake of cupcakes.
A more optically advantageous strategy for Daz might have been to leave the discount at 30% but increase the price by a dollar or two. Decreasing the long-established intro discount percentage is perceived as removing a right---almost as a punishment (to those who tend towards a victimhood narrative)---but increasing the core price while maintaining the previous discount can be simply explained as the result of inflation, even though the bottom line is similar. The latter feels better, and the justification is needless to assert.
The emotional quotient of the policy makers here seems to lack the influence of an artistic sensibility. Bean counters do not grok the childlike character of artistic types, and hard moves activate the rebellious streak in creatives. Dog people shouldn't be tasked with herding cats.
to be fair, decreasing the discount rather than increasing the price does mean the items stay more affordable when steeper discounts are applied at a later date.
So you can wait and put it on your wishlist.
It is just discouraging the new shiny must buy now reaction
DAZ will just see less people buying new releases offset by those who do bringing in a bigger return
maybe there is a reason for this we are unaware of
I personally don't mind wishlisting and waiting, I spend less that way and am less prone to impulse buying something because it is new
Considering the last two Marchs went, I renamed it to "March Slightly Weirdness" last year...
Considering that the average sale delivered items at 50% I consider that the "real price" for any item here in the shop. It seems that PAs could live with that reduction - else they probably try to somewhere else - and it chimes in nicely with the basic prices at The Other Shop. Insofar a "new item" getting a 20% price reduction instead of a 30% one doesn't really bother me - if it interests me it gets wishlisted...
The one thing THAT does bother me, is the lack of communication from DAZ's side. It would be nice to get some official words about the reasons for changes, but experience tells me, there will be none.
Exactly how I feel about it. It's not like I don't have enough stuff to be getting on with, and this is what the wishlist is for.
Aside from the introductory discount, the prices seem particularly poor today. Traditionally, the weekend has been the time to buy, but looking at my wishlist of 200 odd items, it's just page after page of items at full price.
I have a few Arryn items on there and they are 50% off because Arryn released something the other day when it was a 20% introductory discount but before they messed with the prices for the associated artists' stores, and that was still an automatic 50%.
Of course as @WendyLuvsCatz said, I could always buy not one but two things and get "gear up" for my enormous 50% discount, but I don't want two things. Octavia went on the wishlist, but the others don't interest me. They are so diverse, is there anyone that would actually have an art style where two of those is useful? Or are there lots of people that just buy things at random? Who can say?
Maybe they are hoping they can raise prices, stop having sales, and people won't mind!
Good luck with that!
Today's promo is, let's say, "interesing". "Massive Savings"? Really? The new releases are still 20% off only, up to 50% on today's PA stores is not great either. And up to 60% on DO items has been basically the standard for a year now. There are savings, yes. But "massive"? On the other hand, I am not tempted to buy anything today, so for me the saving is 100%
No point in buying all this stuff anyway if it just cloggs up and slows down Studio. More stuff and more features, eeehh. My buying has slowed greatly anyway. Higher prices just accelarates the trend.
Check out the prices against those for the last year on the @Ati DazDeals plugin...
I hope you like vehicles!
The effect of the lower introductory discount can be seen very clearly on these two products: male and female versions of the same set of items, male at 20% (https://www.daz3d.com/m3d-warrior-hair-scars-and-makeup-kit-for-genesis-8-males) $19.96, female at 30% (https://www.daz3d.com/m3d-warrior-hair-scars-and-makeup-kit-for-genesis-8-females) $17.47. Over 2 dollars more on the same base price adds up over a few weeks of buying...
problem is they have been raising their prices, but by more than a dollar. and now this. It doesn't even look right seeing all those 20% off items.
Daz has already been doing that over the last couple of years, and by lot more than a dollar or two! That's one of the reasons why my purchasing here has declined.
Quite true! There used to be several good sales throughout the year. For the past while only the PC+ (Daz+) sales were of any real interest. Who knows what will happen to those this year.
Yeh. During March Madness the intriducty discount has usually been increased to 40% (from 30%). I wonder if this year it may only be increased to 30% (from 20%)?
That would be or pretty annoying. I hope not!