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one could always gather up a few Dforce hairs of different colours rotated around a handle
Some of the holes are for ventilation, the cut out in the center of some versions can flex. This allows it to absorb some of the shock from a straight head on collision.
However the holes in the Daz helmets have holes that are comically large. In every real helmet I have seen, you cannot see the player's hair or scalp. They are just small vents. But the Daz one has huge holes and you can see in the promo the scalp of the G8 model quite clearly. That is going to make for some real weird looking renders.
The instant I saw the football I thought it looked like a rugby ball. This ball is just too round. Real footballs are much more pointed so they can sail through the air.
But the worst part is easily the field. Some aspects could be overlooked or forgiven, but the railing??? There has never been a football field with railing along the out of bounds! Maybe in the indoor arena leagues they have walls, but those are half size fields. But a traditional football? What??? This is a flabbergasting thing to have on a "football field", to the point of making a mockery of the game. This can't even be used as what the rest of the world considers football...soccer, as no soccer field is going to have a railing on the playing field, either.
This is just shocking. How in the world did this pass through multiple steps of people to get into the store? Did they think we wouldn't notice? Come on, Daz.
Plus, since this is Daz, it would make sense for any stadium product to at least have some kind of crowd to place in the stands, even a billboard crowd. Otherwise there is very little that can be done with this stadium. Most people struggle to get a handful of Genesis models in a scene...let alone tens of thousands of them. And I don't to make a COVID joke to pass off the lack of a crowd.
I can certainly understand that people outside the US would have little concept for what American Football is, but you can do the most basic amount of research to find endless amounts of photos and documents to get a grasp of how to design these things.
At least when video football games were not faithful, the results could be hilarious. Like the infamous ambulance in the original Madden game that would psychotically plow through anybody in its path to save that one guy who got hurt. The railing on the Daz football field would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
...*sigh* and still no authentic looking baseball uni.
At least here in Germany there's a couple millions people watching the NFL and College Football games recently and the Superbowl will be seen live by at least a couple millions, too, even though it will be broadcasted in the middle of the night. So the number of people "in the know about football" might be larger than expected, but it obviously doesn't seem to include some of the people who made this Bundle.
Those shoulderpads aren't what I would call "undergarment". As long as the jersey is worn above them, one could do totally without them when rendering a football scene, when the jersey is made to look as if it has shoulderpads beneath it. But when watching real football games one often sees players without the jerseys after the game on the - in this stadium non-existing - sidelines, even talking to reporters, with a non-bending hard plastic surface. And there are things that can't be easily corrected in postwork by non-professional artists.
This is a bit like the guy selling a bus model at "The Other Shop" who was utterly flabbergasted when people complained about his model not coming with a head lights/interior lights setup, as he never ever could have expected to have people attempting to do some evening/night time pictures with that model...
Yeah, I think I disagree... Often, there are interviews after football games in locker rooms where athletes are dressed in towels or jock straps; I still consider jock straps undergarments much as I consider brassieres and girdles undergarments. As for nonprofessionals not being able to do post work, I think that this hobby requires learning skills to use the products on a practical level. Money is not a limiting factor since inexpensive choices like Pixelmator or free choices like Gimp exist. The alternative is to have nonprofessionals spend exorbitant amounts of money for the added labor of creating elaborate weight maps and rigging for very small details for edge situations i.e. increased product prices. Eventually, you run in the "George" problem. There is a character named George in the store who is obese. His shape thwarts most of the simple solutions to solving clothing distortion; there are garments that have fits for the character but buttons and buckles are going to distort. The question is how much time and money should a vendor put into a product to make fits for a character that many people won't have and will never work properly. This is also a real world problem since it is impossible to make a garment that fits every body type. The solutions for distortion of buttons, straps, and buckles is imperfect and we have to work in the limits of that imperfection.
...four with "George look":: William Perry, Gilbert Brown, Frank Winters, and Eddie Lacy (who was actually a running back instead of a lineman)
I dare say there is a touch of distortion in the numbers on their jerseys which could be fixed in post.
He certainly wasn't called "Refrigerator" for nothing.
...Perry was actually used as a running back on a few occasions, including a Superbowl where he literally bowled through the defense for a touchdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59Y9nG9v3A
Also love it when one of these monster defensive guys would pick up a fumble or make an interception then rumble the other way for a score.
...just looked at the stadium details and for a moment I thought I was back home in Wisconsin.
The real thing.
maybe we should check the Trimble Warehouse one
...here's are two full; aerial views of Lambeau Field, One before all the renovations and the other after
Lambeau is the only NFL stadium that has bleacher seats in the lower bowl.
1. As I remembered it before addition of the luxury boxes, increased seating, and The Atrium o nehy side . The only parts besides the lights that extended above the rim were the press box and the scoreboard
2. Current, which appears to be the inspriation for the model in the store.
Stadium Model i nhe store:
I own the Genesis 1 football uniform. This discussion has inspired me to actually try to use Substance Painter. Fingers crossed. I haven't used SP enough for it to sink in. If I get enough done before the game, I will share some freebie textures. Sorry, can't be too realistic because I'm not comfortable copying the team logos or the NFL labels. But I am throwing together a couple rival teams from Southern California and the Ohio River Valley.
Here is the Genesis 1 set.
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Here is my start on the helmet for the SoCal team. I rendered out some Daz animals and then created alphas.
I'd say I wouldn't give a effing §%*$ about distorting cloth, but effing hard plastic getting distorted is going beyond what I would pay for.
Thanks for the pictures, which clearly show the idea for the model, but also the lack of details... Lambeau Field, for example, has an entrance to the playing field for players etc, team zones and on the other hand a severe lacking of metal railing at the sidelines.
I can't seem to hide the visor from the helmet. Not all players play with visors. The front holes are a bit big.
How's it look for the big boys? Or is this limited to "skill position" players?
I'm kind of surprised they didn't update/re-do Touchdown Baby from years past. While I had a fair bit of mileage out of it, it was rather limited in use (for me anyway).
At least the rails/fences on the sidelines can be hidden (also, some high schools feature that, but they're way outside the sidelines). The lack of field entrances and the general field-stands proportion are a slightly bigger problem. Up for grabs in the corner of the endzone is probably sending someone into the padding in an awkward position.
It's useable, but you're going to rely on clever camera placement, and maybe limit it to independent renders.
I know our local high school has a fence around their field but it goes the field then the track on the outside of that then the fence.
...yeah that is true and the lack of player entrances to the field was mentioned earlier in the thread.
well doors are optional in DAZ rooms and there is an indoor swiming pool completely enclosed so why would a DAZ stadium need exits?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA
In anticipation of the forum going down before I finish the socks and the shoes, it does look like that I will be able to use Genesis 1 Football product to do a tribute to this year's superbowl. ETA done Saturday morning, Daz time. Note, I have not incorporated photos, etc of the NFL, the Los Angeles Rams, or the Cincinnati Bengals. I will save the texture maps in a zip file. You will have to load them in proper channels. I will post them as freebies to my ShareCG account tomorrow around lunchtime Daz Time. This is my progress thus far. I hope to include several historic jerseys for each team. For example, the Ohio team had (arguably) the best offensive lineman of all time. The jerseys don't have names so I put position on the back where the name would be. So these two say Quarterback on the back.
For fans of American football who watch on Sunday, enjoy the striped tigers against the male sheep.
Tunnel entrances/team introductions. They're a bit of a spectacle in major games.
a DAZ stadium
I am aware a real one for any practical use or realistic render would
DAZland ...is different apparently skimpy clad in chainmail warriors deflect swords in boob plate while running in high heels
nothing fits the norms of the real world here
You can still have Vicky going the whole nine yards with the quarterback under the floodlights late at night I guess
as some visual novels would depict
the sketchup one in DAZ iray
had to update Pcon planner to load the latest skp which I exported to obj
just wanted to see what the Lambeau one looked like
How apropos that the sheep are in the Super Bowl in the year of the tiger. Surely it's just a coincidence, like the Patriots beating the sheep after nine eleven.
As a fan of the Steelworkers I have two reason to cheer for the male sheeps this Super Bowl.
I like this new set and I will get it, but i'd still loooove a G8 version of Touchdown Star. It's just such a good set.
I have lived in 3 of the 4 NFC East cities so all of my football passion is devoted to hating one team. I don't have a rooting interet in this year's game so I just hope it remains competitive. For the Genesis 1 uniform (not new genesis 8 release), I started a thread in the Freebies Forum. That contains links to the ShareCG downloads. I have already posted the base textures for full quarterback uniforms for both of my fake teams. I have also posted a link to more maps for jerseys to field a complete offense and defense (and even a kicker) for the blue and gold male sheep team. More jerseys for other positions for the orange and black striped tigers to be posted later today. BTW, congrats to the hamsters for keeping the forum going thus far.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/549771/super-sunday-tribute-textures-for-genesis-1-football-uniform#latest
yeah, the distortion is super anoying, with the old touchdown outfit I ended-up pulling the model apart to get the shoulder pads as seperate object so I could stop them turning into melted plactic goo when the guy moved his arms. There must be a way (but I bet there isn't) to say "this bit of the outfit should not change shape"
I'm pretty sure it's simple. If the weight map is constant across an entire section, it should rotate as a rigid piece.