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3-D printing from DAZ

sarge74sarge74 Posts: 121
edited December 1969 in The Commons

Not even sure this is possible. I have access to a 3-D printer at work and they guy who runs it says he can print anything from a .stl format. I thought it would be awesome to print one of my character designs created in DAZ. My knowledge of 3-D modeling is almost entirely limited to rendering work in DAZ. I've dabbled with Blender a bit but nothing else. Any one have any suggestions on a way to take a V4 character that I have in DAZ Studio and get it into an .stl format to print? Thanks for your time.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,707
    edited December 1969

    first off, you would need to submit a support ticket, as the EULA does not allow 3D-printing without a separate license.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,336
    edited December 1969

    There is also considerable discussion of whether or not 3D printing is allowed in this thread:

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/49713/

    Charlie

  • richgainrichgain Posts: 14
    edited December 1969

    DAZ 3D EULA forbids any kind of 3D printing of their characters without purchasing a 3D printing license. Another whole year has gone by and there is still no sign of any such license being made available. Personally, I am not convinced that they have any plans to release one.
    There is one way to get around this problem. Switch to using models that explicitly include a 'for personal use only' 3D printing license such as Dawn SR2, then you can stop worrying about the legal issues and start getting involved in the joys and pains of creating models for 3D printing. It is possible and it works well.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited December 2014

    Well, the EULA says:

    Three Dimensional Works. DAZ wishes to encourage the expansion of the catalog of Content available to its users. Accordingly, User may access, use, copy, and modify the Content to create one or more derived or additional three-dimensional works provided that:
    1.any such derived or additional three-dimensional works are designed to require or encourage the use of Content available through the online DAZ store either by (i) requiring the use of such Content to function, or (ii) allowing only limited function when not used in conjunction with Content from the online DAZ store; and
    2.upon receipt of a written request from DAZ, User will immediately cease any and all distribution of the derived or additional three-dimensional works User has created from the Content, if DAZ has determined, in its sole discretion, that (i) such additional or derived work is substantially similar to or is a clone of existing Content; or (ii) such additional or derived work fails to require or encourage the use of Content available through the online DAZ store as described above.

    The creation of three-dimensional physical images (3D-print, molded copy, CNC-routed copy, and the like) of Content or any three-dimensional art derived from the Content is permitted only by User’s purchase from DAZ, via the User’s online DAZ store account, of permission to deliver User’s derived works (art), including necessary Content, to an entity that creates three-dimensional images in a physical medium. User may then deliver User’s art in file format to that third party to have three-dimensional physical images printed or created, up to the limitations set forth in the online DAZ Store as delineated on the purchase page associated with the permission purchased. These limitations govern (i) personal and/or commercial use of the three-dimensional physical or printed images; and (ii) the quantity of three dimensional physical or printed images allowed.

    Well, I'm not a lawyer, but the way I read it, you are fine to go and have your content printed by a third party, without any additional licence to be bought.

    Post edited by BeeMKay on
  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2014

    lee_lhs said:
    Well, the EULA says:
    Three Dimensional Works. DAZ wishes to encourage the expansion of the catalog of Content available to its users. Accordingly, User may access, use, copy, and modify the Content to create one or more derived or additional three-dimensional works provided that:
    1.any such derived or additional three-dimensional works are designed to require or encourage the use of Content available through the online DAZ store either by (i) requiring the use of such Content to function, or (ii) allowing only limited function when not used in conjunction with Content from the online DAZ store; and
    2.upon receipt of a written request from DAZ, User will immediately cease any and all distribution of the derived or additional three-dimensional works User has created from the Content, if DAZ has determined, in its sole discretion, that (i) such additional or derived work is substantially similar to or is a clone of existing Content; or (ii) such additional or derived work fails to require or encourage the use of Content available through the online DAZ store as described above.

    The creation of three-dimensional physical images (3D-print, molded copy, CNC-routed copy, and the like) of Content or any three-dimensional art derived from the Content is permitted only by User’s purchase from DAZ, via the User’s online DAZ store account, of permission to deliver User’s derived works (art), including necessary Content, to an entity that creates three-dimensional images in a physical medium. User may then deliver User’s art in file format to that third party to have three-dimensional physical images printed or created, up to the limitations set forth in the online DAZ Store as delineated on the purchase page associated with the permission purchased. These limitations govern (i) personal and/or commercial use of the three-dimensional physical or printed images; and (ii) the quantity of three dimensional physical or printed images allowed.

    Well, I'm not a lawyer, but the way I read it, you are fine to go and have your content printed by a third party, without any additional licence to be bought.

    It says quite clearly, as highlighted in red, that you need to contact DAZ 3D and obtain a license

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • richgainrichgain Posts: 14
    edited December 1969

    Sadly, chohole is correct.
    I have contacted Daz3D.
    A license is required for 3D printing.
    This license does not yet exist.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited December 2014

    richgain said:
    Sadly, chohole is correct.
    I have contacted Daz3D.
    A license is required for 3D printing.
    This license does not yet exist.

    Thanks for the info, richgain. So, basically, people who want to do 3D print are doing this illegally at the moment, and the Cease and Desist Crew can barge into their h0mes at any minute, or sue their pants off...
    Honestly, DAZ should at least allow folks to print on their own home printers, for non commercial use, within the current license rights.


    It says quite clearly, as highlighted in red, that you need to contact DAZ 3D and obtain a license

    Mmmm... Then that is my problem, as from the wording, what I understood was that the license you obtain when you buy a product in the shop includes the 3D print stuff.
    *sigh*

    Well, at least we have now the official statement from DAZ that the license is not the license I thought it was. :)

    Post edited by BeeMKay on
  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    Again, not a lawyer, but my take is that if you're doing the printing yourself (you own the printer) you're okay. If you need to send the file to someone else, you need a license.

    Which is probably something that DAZ should clear up, since home-model 3D printers are an option for many people at this point.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    It doesn't say that. It is very non specific and obviously so, as you could be printing then yourself, but wanting to sell them, which would be a Commercial usage.

    We advise everyone who wishes to do 3D Printing to contact DAZ 3D by filing a support ticket to Sales and giving details of usage, distribution etc.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,900
    edited December 2014

    The EULA says you can't make 3D prints without a license. It then says you can obtain a license that allows you to make 3D prints, by sending the files to a service provider. Nothing is specified about how those with their own printer obtain a license, but the no, not without a license is applied across the board. So you do need to contact DAZ if you want to make 3D prints, or other real instances, even if you do have your own device.

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,568
    edited December 1969

    Of course, if you're willing to wait a year before showing anyone your 3d-printed object, DAZ can't do anything about it.

    Statute of Limitations. Regardless of any statute or law to the contrary, any claim or cause of action arising out of or related to this Agreement or User’s use of the Content must be filed within one (1) year after such claim or cause of action arose or be forever barred.
  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Murgatroyd said:
    Of course, if you're willing to wait a year before showing anyone your 3d-printed object, DAZ can't do anything about it.

    Statute of Limitations. Regardless of any statute or law to the contrary, any claim or cause of action arising out of or related to this Agreement or User’s use of the Content must be filed within one (1) year after such claim or cause of action arose or be forever barred.

    These lines are taken out of context of the whole. Statues are no chiseled in stone nor are they hard and fast rules. They are guidelines that can be interpreted, amended, even set aside. Do not take it as gospel truth.

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