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  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    edited December 1969

    Not that I want to encourage anyone NOT to buy a product of mine, but SRMS won't work on Genesis 2. Maybe you did know that, but you've got it listed up there with a bunch of G2 things. ;)

    It is replaced by the Dress/Tunic Rig and Clothing Smoother products.

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited December 1969

    It wont? I thought that was for G2M/G2F cloths???

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,649
    edited November 2014

    It wont? I thought that was for G2M/G2F cloths???

    Nope. It's for Genesis 1. I used a different system for Genesis 2 Male and Female because the technology had changed somewhat and I had new methods available to me (and doing small products is easier than doing one giant one).

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited November 2014

    Thanks for the heads up on that. Another list for a 'Complete set' I guess??? Clone + item rigs? or that is just for back-converting...
    Sickle Dress Rig Genesis 2 Female
    Sickle Tunic Rig Genesis 2 Male(s)
    (still looking....)
    Easy Caustics (Must have for mirror walls and floors)...

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  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited December 1969

    Highly recommend all of Sy's utilities.. they save me a TON of time and headaches.

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited November 2014

    Yes very useful. That top left part, was stuff for Daz studio in general, not Just G2M. I did manage to knock Measure metrics off of that list, yet to see it tho.

    It is a small sampling of everything I'm looking at 'Needing' and don't have yet, lol.
    (edit)
    Jindi was chatting about using the Sickle Rigging and Morphing System to convert Dawn outfits to G1F/G2F in another thread. That is why it ended up in the must have list.

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited November 2014

    I'm not just interested in converting stuff. I'm faced with a "From Scratch" as well. Making a set of plane cloth arm bands exactly like the ones in this set. Yes this is one of the Items that got yanked out from under me.
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/18072/start
    For G2M and G2F would be fantastic.
    (EDIT)
    I'm also thinking of a shorter variation like this pic.

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  • ErdehelErdehel Posts: 386
    edited December 1969

    Yes very useful. That top left part, was stuff for Daz studio in general, not Just G2M. I did manage to knock Measure metrics off of that list, yet to see it tho.

    It is a small sampling of everything I'm looking at 'Needing' and don't have yet, lol.
    (edit)

    If you get Sebastian for G2M then I suggest buying Oliver HD as well.

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited November 2014

    Erdehel said:
    Yes very useful. That top left part, was stuff for Daz studio in general, not Just G2M. I did manage to knock Measure metrics off of that list, yet to see it tho.

    It is a small sampling of everything I'm looking at 'Needing' and don't have yet, lol.
    (edit)

    If you get Sebastian for G2M then I suggest buying Oliver HD as well.Agreed, a lot of bundles out there for stuff. And the add-on texture sets for all the sets that have them. It is a rather truncated list. and it totals well beyond my budget for a buy all at once.
    http://www.daz3d.com/sebastian-s-outfit-for-genesis-2-male-s
    http://www.daz3d.com/sebastian-outfit-textures
    http://www.daz3d.com/fw-sebastian-hd-and-incubus-bundle
    http://www.daz3d.com/fw-oliver-hd-megapack
    etc...

    Another thing I despise. "That arm band looks good", tho How do you get that one arm band on the other arm, when it's not in the set that way, lol. (EDIT) It's the same with some leg items as well.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,931
    edited November 2014

    ...a quick for correcting skirt its that I use is creating a geometry shell form the wither the Genesis or G2F MFD (depending on which figure you are using) and fitting a dress to the Geometry shell instead of the character. You lso have to mke ure the MD is the collision item as well. It doe require a bit more work as you often have to pose both the geometry shell as well a the character.

    The nice thing with both the SMRS, Dress Rig for G2F (which I have), and the Clothing Smoothers (which I still have to get) is they also help with fixing texture distortion which can often occur in skirts (particularly long ones) after autofitting.

    Using the Geometry shell can still result in texture stretching in the middle of the skirt.

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • ZamuelNowZamuelNow Posts: 753
    edited December 1969

    Valandar said:
    ZamuelNow said:
    Valandar said:
    I released two sets for the males, and not painted on, back in September. The results?

    Disappointing. Honestly? I wish I had made something more profitable. It just wasn't worth it.

    HOWEVER... I'm giving it one more try for a brokered outfit for the males. If it's a nogo? I'm giving up.

    *glances at items* Would you mind if I offered my thoughts on them?

    Go ahead.

    My thoughts seem to have some overlap with Cypherfox. The Necromancer and Renegade Adventurer have promos that are unflattering. Don't remember The Necromancer but I remember Renegade Adventurer in the vein I remember seeing the promo and not clicking the product page. It's a little more baffling and disheartning both since knowing it's you now I'm shocked since you have good promos and because the additional pictures are better renders. People who would usually be swayed by the quality of your prior work won't even get past the point of entry. The Necromancer is an interesting case since, while the base Renegade Adventurer promo is fine except for the lighting/prop resolution, I think the "02-the-necromancer-daz3d.jpg" is a stronger promotion piece for The Necromancer. The colors draw you to the necromancer himself whereas the base promo is lit in a way where the monster in the background winds up getting far more focus than the outfit.

    Valid points have been made about timing since sales and promotions can sometimes make or break a product outside of the quality of the product itself. It's why I think a lot of these mini bundles that have been coming out are good since they act like a promotion in a box. It's also where it gets disappointing when a set only has one color by default and no third parties make extra textures. It's a massive annoyance I have with Lady of War and Mercenary Maid since it means there's not even the option for an enemy faction (don't get me wrong though, very glad they exist).

    With the outfits themselves, Renegade Adventurer is in a weird place. It's less niche but it has to compete against a few other rogue outfits. Sorta turns into a weird example of "it's not bad but..." since some buyers may be choosy if they have other options. It does seem like it may be friendly to those who use shaders but I can't be sure without seeing the material zone breakup. The Necromancer is more niche but it stands out more. I can't think of anything else like it off the top of my head. Parts distribution is really good. It's "one" set but I can see giving the harness to a death themed barbarian, the gauntlets + mask can work for a voodoo sorcerer, and the robe to a villager. Versatility is a thing I value as a customer and oddly The Necromancer has more if you think outside the box.

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783
    edited December 1969

    "Compatible Software: DAZ Studio 4.6"

    Leaving budget matters & sales confusion aside, this is the main reason why I haven't been all over many of the new releases. Sorry, but if there's no Poser support then it's an instant no-buy for me regardless of how cool and/or good your product is. Male outfits I want & need, including skimpwear -- I could really use some impossibly-fitting undies & swim suits for my guys, not to mention painted on jeans & shirts that open all the way -- but if you want me to buy it please add DSON support as well whenever it's technically possible to do so.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited December 1969

    All my stuff works in Poser =)

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783
    edited December 1969

    For which I am very grateful. Eagerly awaiting your new set. :-)

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,816
    edited December 1969

    I like this one
    (LAMH exported geometry mesh hair conformed with transfer utility rendered in iClone)

    What Lee character is that? His shape looks nice and his texture looks smooth. :)
  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    As Fisty says, the deformation with bends is down to the weighting - it can be fixed by making the weight uniform across the item, but then it is rigid and is likely to pokeinto other parts as they bend unless it is given morphs or made a separate, posable, item - both of which are time-consuming to implement, and as they are likely to require user-intervention increase its complexity and so probably reduce sales.

    All items involve compromises - there's a trade off between usability and realism for the end user, there's a trade off between time invested and sales for the PA, there's a trade off between both and price for user and PA. If the relative infrequency of male items is leading potential buyers to say "having waited this long I'm not settling for that balance of features" then sales are further reduced, and so the ability of PAs who want to support male figures is undermined. I'm not saying buy male stuff that is in the wrong genre, still less buy male stuff that is of lower quality than you accept, but I am saying don't set your standards unrealistically high and don't operate on stricter criteria than you would for female-oriented content.

    The only trick with the "stricter Criteria" element is that men's clothing is, by its nature, much less forgiving of ... let's call them glitches, than women's clothing. It seems to be more obvious when something designed for men isn't quite right, either in style or construction. It's not so much the customers but the clothing itself that is more demanding.

    You see much the same thing on shows like Project Runway, when at least half the designers are completely baffled by the construction of anything that isn't for a Size 0 female supermodel.

  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416
    edited November 2014

    The only trick with the "stricter Criteria" element is that men's clothing is, by its nature, much less forgiving of ... let's call them glitches, than women's clothing. It seems to be more obvious when something designed for men isn't quite right, either in style or construction. It's not so much the customers but the clothing itself that is more demanding.

    Yes.. there are also usually more areas that need to be ridged which is a ton of work to get right, or even acceptable. The morphing is also more work >usually<. For the females there are only a few body morphs that are really troublesome, Gia and Heavy being the two big ones. For G2M more than half of the named ones and a few of the generic ones are quite a pain. Most G2M characters are very lumpy so it either takes a ton of fixing with smoothing brushes in the modeler to fix the auto generated mangled mess, or you have to make the whole morph from scratch and then try to line up exactly how the joint centers were moved so it bends right without pokethrough (particularly around the top thighs, elbows, and armpits) which is a lot of trial and error.</p>

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  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,423
    edited December 1969

    i just put sexy girl stuff on guys.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,204
    edited December 1969

    I like this one
    (LAMH exported geometry mesh hair conformed with transfer utility rendered in iClone)

    What Lee character is that? His shape looks nice and his texture looks smooth. :)
    http://www.daz3d.com/fw-hachiro-for-lee-6
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,931
    edited December 1969

    TimG said:
    i just put sexy girl stuff on guys.

    ...hehheh, love it.
  • AbendwindAbendwind Posts: 44
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    TimG said:
    i just put sexy girl stuff on guys.

    ...hehheh, love it.

    ... until it comes to those cute little vests and jackets. Tops are a real nuisance to cross-dress, even if many would be pretty cool to have on guys too.

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