Product to convert V4 poses to Genesis??

jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I may be dreaming, but I'm sure there was a product in teh store that converted V4/M4 poses (and i THINK the generation 3 figures) to Genesis.

Am I going insane?? Was there such a thing? And does it still exist in the store??

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,312
    edited December 1969

    That was cridigit. He has moved products to Renderosity.
    PoseMaster for DAZ Studio
    http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/posemaster-for-daz-studio/98769/
    PoseMaster People Pack
    http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/posemaster-people-pack/98772/

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281
    edited December 1969

    ah thanks! :D

  • srieschsriesch Posts: 4,243
    edited December 1969

    I don't have this one, but: http://www.daz3d.com/handy-dandy for adjusting the hand so you can then use your generation 4 poses on G1 or G2. Do some research. think I recall hearing that there are a few exceptions where it won't make the adjustments, but it worked for most things? But I could be wrong, and that info could be out of date.

  • The_MomsterThe_Momster Posts: 28
    edited December 1969

    Thanks! I have Posemaster but not the People Pack! Wishlisted!

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281
    edited December 1969

    I don't have this one, but: http://www.daz3d.com/handy-dandy for adjusting the hand so you can then use your generation 4 poses on G1 or G2. Do some research. think I recall hearing that there are a few exceptions where it won't make the adjustments, but it worked for most things? But I could be wrong, and that info could be out of date.

    thanks Sean, I've got that one, and it's really good. The other one - I was asking for another person, cos I vaguely remembered it, but coudln't recall the name of the product and didn't realize it had moved stores. :D

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,582
    edited December 1969

    If anyone has posemaster and/or the people pack I would be interested in hearing how accurately it converts the poses. Some of the reviews it has on the site it is for sale on are fairly negative, and so it would be nice to hear what other peoples experience with using it are. If it only makes an approximate translation, then it is no real better than simply applying the V4 pose direct to genesis and then correcting it with either handy-dandy, or this script: (http://www.sharecg.com/v/60135/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Genesis-V4-pose-adjust-script)

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    In Studio at least DAZ figures from generation 4 on are more adaptable in both scale and proportions and as such poses often need tweaking. For example a pose made specifically for Aiko 6 (stretched lean toon shape) will not work well on Olympia 6 (stocky curvaceous warrioress shape) despite being both G2F based. It is possible that the people posting the negative reviews simply don't understand this and are unfairly panning a perfectly good product.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,582
    edited December 1969

    Ideally a converter app should be able to convert a pose for a final figure shape, ie you specify the morph/scaling etc of the target figure and the pose is converted to match. I understand that this is not trivial, however a pose converted from V4 to a Genesis using the V4 shape, should get a very close match, or it is not really worth the money. Poses where the character is interacting with an object, or another figure, need to be pretty close, or a fair amount of tweaking is needed to get them right.

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,996
    edited October 2014

    Havos said:
    Ideally a converter app should be able to convert a pose for a final figure shape

    Good idea but it will fail the moment your applying the pose to a non standard figure shape. That idea only works if you dont mix your figure shapes.

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  • Tramp GraphicsTramp Graphics Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx speaks true. No matter what base figure a given pose was "designed for", you always need to make adjustments to it. I use poses made for all different base figures (from V4 and M4, even the old Poser Debut "James" figure) on my Genesis characters. Even poses designed for Genesis need to be adjusted once you move away from the base shape and proportions. For example, the three girls in the attached picture below. If I were to apply the same pose on all three, I would need to make very different adjustments for each because of the vast differences in height, build, and proportion. Maria is much taller than either Tommie or Ashley. Ashley is much more voluptuous than Maria or Tommie. Tommie is much smaller overall than either Maria or Ashley. This has a huge impact on how you adjust a pose for a given character.

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  • MBuschMBusch Posts: 547
    edited December 1969

    Havos said:
    If anyone has posemaster and/or the people pack I would be interested in hearing how accurately it converts the poses. Some of the reviews it has on the site it is for sale on are fairly negative, and so it would be nice to hear what other peoples experience with using it are. If it only makes an approximate translation, then it is no real better than simply applying the V4 pose direct to genesis and then correcting it with either handy-dandy, or this script: (http://www.sharecg.com/v/60135/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Genesis-V4-pose-adjust-script)

    I have both and just don't use them. I much prefer apply the pose and adjust it with Hand Dandy and David GB's Genesis V4 pose adjust script.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,281
    edited December 1969

    MBusch said:
    Havos said:
    If anyone has posemaster and/or the people pack I would be interested in hearing how accurately it converts the poses. Some of the reviews it has on the site it is for sale on are fairly negative, and so it would be nice to hear what other peoples experience with using it are. If it only makes an approximate translation, then it is no real better than simply applying the V4 pose direct to genesis and then correcting it with either handy-dandy, or this script: (http://www.sharecg.com/v/60135/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Genesis-V4-pose-adjust-script)

    I have both and just don't use them. I much prefer apply the pose and adjust it with Hand Dandy and David GB's Genesis V4 pose adjust script.
    I have both and the primary advantages of Posemaster were speed... you could batch convert a whole set of poses at once... a number o nifty utilities and the ability to convert from Gen 2 and 3 with the People Pack. Unfortunately, Cridget hasn't updated the People Pack since the early Genesis sets, so I primarily use Handy Dandy to convert from Gen 4 and Gen 5 to Gen 6 these days.

  • cafedeliccafedelic Posts: 10
    edited December 1969

    I followed the advice above and have been batch processing my V4 pose sets in PoseMaster for use with G1F. Because of additional bones in the G1 skeleton, the conversions are close, but seldom perfect and do require some tweaking. The batch processing is relatively easy, although pretty slow -- about 10 minutes for a 70 pose set.

    PoseMaster does not properly convert the hand and feet poses. However, HandyDandy does a very good job nd is simple to use.

    Bottom line: PoseMaster works as well as can be expected, although on most poses some tweaking will be necessary. Best of all, PoseMaster allows the conversion of entire pose sets -- including thumbnails.

  • nucclenuccle Posts: 19

    Does anyone know how effective Posemaster is with converting V3 poses to V4? And is it any good for animated poses?
    I have a few V3 animated pose sets I want to convert, but not sure whether to buy posemaster to do it.
    Thanks.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,281
    nuccle said:

    Does anyone know how effective Posemaster is with converting V3 poses to V4? And is it any good for animated poses?
    I have a few V3 animated pose sets I want to convert, but not sure whether to buy posemaster to do it.
    Thanks.

    It's been a while since I've done it, but as I recall, in general, Posemaster seemed to do a better job converting Gen 3 poses to Gen 4 than it does going from Gen 4 to Genesis.  Of course, you do have to buy the people pack add-on to handle all the nuanced differences between a poses made for the various Gen 3 figs.      

  • Zevo has a batch v4-Genisis 1 and 2 converter here, and another to convert Genesis 2 to Gensis 3.  Here's a link to the first one:  http://www.daz3d.com/v4-pose-converter-for-genesis-and-genesis-2-female-s

    I've got it, it works great.  It also will convert partial poses (the Genesis 2 to 3 one doesn't)

  • Hmmm... this appears to be a two year old thread that was revived from the dead.  Er, carry on. cheeky

  • mindsongmindsong Posts: 1,725

    some threads bear revival... I found it worth the read - your additions included. tnx

     

    -ms

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