What’s the deal with G8.1?

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    certaintree38 said:

    PerttiA said:

    If you remove the dummy/placeholder files, the G8 visemes will become available 

     True. I've done that. But it's weird that they haven't given people an official solution for visemes for 8.1 yet. Are they just relying on us to disable the dummy files? That was a user created solution and Daz has never officially endorsed it. Are they going to sell the visemes? If so, why aren't they out yet?

     It may have been a marketing decision, what is the use of the face rig if you still have the old expressions, visemes and even Power Pose.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,134

    Ugh. I hate G8.1 and it seems that products are now being created only for G.8.1. The new stocking bundle is totally up my alley but no way I’m getting it if it’s not usable on regular G8. I guess I can load G8 textures and morphs on G8.1 but it’s an extra step and a pain to find compatible products in smart content. Guess I’ll wait till the G8.1 stuff goes to the $2.99 section. I may be able to give my bank account a big break in the foreseeable future! I don’t see why the stockings can’t be compatible with G8 though...

  • Wonderland said:

    Ugh. I hate G8.1 and it seems that products are now being created only for G.8.1. The new stocking bundle is totally up my alley but no way I’m getting it if it’s not usable on regular G8. I guess I can load G8 textures and morphs on G8.1 but it’s an extra step and a pain to find compatible products in smart content. Guess I’ll wait till the G8.1 stuff goes to the $2.99 section. I may be able to give my bank account a big break in the foreseeable future! I don’t see why the stockings can’t be compatible with G8 though...

    I saw the stockings and was considering too but wondering if they'd work on g8f too ok I know you can use g8f textures and morphs on g8.1f  I did one of my facegen characters as one and tried another bought g8f but still. Think when they were releasing 8.1 it was mentioned you could use all g8 stuff on 8.1 except some parts of expressions but you couldn't use 8.1 content including clothing on g8

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    Wonderland said:

    Ugh. I hate G8.1 and it seems that products are now being created only for G.8.1. The new stocking bundle is totally up my alley but no way I’m getting it if it’s not usable on regular G8. I guess I can load G8 textures and morphs on G8.1 but it’s an extra step and a pain to find compatible products in smart content. Guess I’ll wait till the G8.1 stuff goes to the $2.99 section. I may be able to give my bank account a big break in the foreseeable future! I don’t see why the stockings can’t be compatible with G8 though...

    If they are real stockings and not shells, they are compatible. At most you just need to change the Scene Identification.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    Wonderland said:

    Ugh. I hate G8.1 and it seems that products are now being created only for G.8.1. The new stocking bundle is totally up my alley but no way I’m getting it if it’s not usable on regular G8. I guess I can load G8 textures and morphs on G8.1 but it’s an extra step and a pain to find compatible products in smart content. Guess I’ll wait till the G8.1 stuff goes to the $2.99 section. I may be able to give my bank account a big break in the foreseeable future! I don’t see why the stockings can’t be compatible with G8 though...

    I saw the stockings and was considering too but wondering if they'd work on g8f too ok I know you can use g8f textures and morphs on g8.1f  I did one of my facegen characters as one and tried another bought g8f but still. Think when they were releasing 8.1 it was mentioned you could use all g8 stuff on 8.1 except some parts of expressions but you couldn't use 8.1 content including clothing on g8

    That was just marketing talking about stuff they don't know anything about.

    The geometry and rigging is the same between G8 and G8.1, which means that all the real clothes can be used on both, some G8.1 ones may need to use the "Scene Identification" trick but that's all, "clothes" that are essentially painted on shells may have a problem.
    All G8 expressions/visemes work on G8.1 once the dummy/placeholder files have been removed.

    Scripts that are looking for G8 need to be updated to work on G8.1 and hierarcial G8 material presets and hierarcial G8 poses will need to be saved as non-hierarcial before they work with G8.1 due to the change in figure naming.

  • The RED CrownThe RED Crown Posts: 247
    edited April 2021

    i will not remove The dummy/placeholder files until daz make statement about that .
     i will waiting to see what happen to G8.1 future .

    It is better not to hurry .

    Post edited by The RED Crown on
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    The RED Crown said:

    i will not remove The dummy/placeholder files until daz make statement about that .
     i will waiting to see what happen to G8.1 future .

    It is better not to hurry .

    Personally, I think it's better to have access to expressions.  Daz is not great in the communications area, so you may be waiting a long time.  Genesis 8.1 has probably gotten all the love it's ever going to get.

  • vagansvagans Posts: 422

    PerttiA said:

    certaintree38 said:

    PerttiA said:

    If you remove the dummy/placeholder files, the G8 visemes will become available 

     True. I've done that. But it's weird that they haven't given people an official solution for visemes for 8.1 yet. Are they just relying on us to disable the dummy files? That was a user created solution and Daz has never officially endorsed it. Are they going to sell the visemes? If so, why aren't they out yet?

     It may have been a marketing decision, what is the use of the face rig if you still have the old expressions, visemes and even Power Pose.

    Fair enough, I'll become efficient with the face controls to emulate common visemes.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    CMacks said:

    I really appreciate this thorough response.  However, when I load Gensis 8.1 Basic Female (that has the lashes and tear) and select the lashes and go to Scene ID as instructed, it's still blank.  See my screenshot.

    It is almost like the window is not size right. Do you have the ability to change the size of the box that pops up? Maybe, just maybe, the 3 dots are not visible because the because is too narrow. This is what my scene ID box looks like.

    You can clearly see the triangle on the right, along with the 3 dots. Clicking the 3 dots brings up a huge list of base models that you have installed that you can make the compatible and preferred base.

    Also, for me it does not matter if I have the prop loaded with G8 or just click the prop without any G8 in the scene. I can still get in this menu to work. I don't know what else can be going on.

    As an alternative, you could use the autofit feature to make them work. But I don't think it works as well in this case. Worth a shot though if its all you got.

  • CMacksCMacks Posts: 202

    outrider42 said:

    CMacks said:

    I really appreciate this thorough response.  However, when I load Gensis 8.1 Basic Female (that has the lashes and tear) and select the lashes and go to Scene ID as instructed, it's still blank.  See my screenshot.

    It is almost like the window is not size right. Do you have the ability to change the size of the box that pops up? Maybe, just maybe, the 3 dots are not visible because the because is too narrow. This is what my scene ID box looks like.

    You can clearly see the triangle on the right, along with the 3 dots. Clicking the 3 dots brings up a huge list of base models that you have installed that you can make the compatible and preferred base.

    Also, for me it does not matter if I have the prop loaded with G8 or just click the prop without any G8 in the scene. I can still get in this menu to work. I don't know what else can be going on.

    As an alternative, you could use the autofit feature to make them work. But I don't think it works as well in this case. Worth a shot though if its all you got.

    My screenshot didn't show it, but I do have the triangle and 3 dot icons.  When I click I get no entries like yours.  So, there seems to be a problem!

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