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African Elephant Updated question

vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,711
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I would like to purchase this new product:

https://www.daz3d.com/african-elephant-updated

It lists the African Elephant as a  required product, but says it's not really necessary.

(This product does not require the original African Elephant product for most functions but the original product is required for original material sets and the original poses.)

So I wonder if that means that if I purchase the updated version and the extra pose product (https://www.daz3d.com/elephant-poses) then I should have all I need?

The original elephant only comes with four poses -  which I can do without - and I prefer the new materials in the update since they are more realistic.

Any help would be greatly appreciated before I jump in with this product. Thanks.

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  • PlantPlant Posts: 127

    Yes you don't need anything else

  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,711
    Plant said:

    Yes you don't need anything else

    Thanks!

  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,711

    So I purchased the updated Elephant. It's beautiful!

    The details are just awesome, and the poses in the separate pose product work perfectly.

    You definitely do not need the required product that is mentioned in this product. Unless you need the 6 poses that are included with the original elephant, then by all means.

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  • Lothar WeberLothar Weber Posts: 1,611
    von Hobo said:

    So I purchased the updated Elephant. It's beautiful!

    The details are just awesome, and the poses in the separate pose product work perfectly.

    You definitely do not need the required product that is mentioned in this product. Unless you need the 6 poses that are included with the original elephant, then by all means.

    Thank you for that clarification yes

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,487
    edited August 2020

    I really liked the old version and just LOVE this update!  Iray render with lots and lots of post work (Photoshop, Topaz Studio, Filter Forge, Photolemur). 

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  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,711
    Gogger said:

    I really liked the old version and just LOVE this update!  Iray render with lots and lots of post work (Photoshop, Topaz Studio, Filter Forge, Photolemur). 

    That's amazing. Love how you used all earth tones and the elephant looks so natural!

     

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    I really want to get this if just for the updated textures snce I have been wanting a new African elephant for ages. this version just looks to 'droopy" and not majestic as I have seen in documentaries

  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,711
    FSMCDesigns said:

    I really want to get this if just for the updated textures snce I have been wanting a new African elephant for ages. this version just looks to 'droopy" and not majestic as I have seen in documentaries

    I have been waiting on an African Elephant, and a realistic house cat, for a while now. 

    I'll settle for this elephant. It's not perfect but none of the animals on DAZ are perfect. With lighting and atmosphere you might get some realistic results. 

    I've also been waiting for a G8M Skeleton. The Midnight Skeleton looks like a circus clown. I would really love to get something like M4 Skeleton that works with G8M or G8F poses. 

    Is that too much to ask for? LOL

     

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843
    von Hobo said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    I really want to get this if just for the updated textures snce I have been wanting a new African elephant for ages. this version just looks to 'droopy" and not majestic as I have seen in documentaries

    I have been waiting on an African Elephant, and a realistic house cat, for a while now. 

    I'll settle for this elephant. It's not perfect but none of the animals on DAZ are perfect. With lighting and atmosphere you might get some realistic results. 

    I've also been waiting for a G8M Skeleton. The Midnight Skeleton looks like a circus clown. I would really love to get something like M4 Skeleton that works with G8M or G8F poses. 

    Is that too much to ask for? LOL

     

    I hear ya. to me this this is what i have been wanting, but I can't justify the price https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-realistic-elephant-model/1036112

     

  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,711
    FSMCDesigns said:
    von Hobo said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    I really want to get this if just for the updated textures snce I have been wanting a new African elephant for ages. this version just looks to 'droopy" and not majestic as I have seen in documentaries

    I have been waiting on an African Elephant, and a realistic house cat, for a while now. 

    I'll settle for this elephant. It's not perfect but none of the animals on DAZ are perfect. With lighting and atmosphere you might get some realistic results. 

    I've also been waiting for a G8M Skeleton. The Midnight Skeleton looks like a circus clown. I would really love to get something like M4 Skeleton that works with G8M or G8F poses. 

    Is that too much to ask for? LOL

     

    I hear ya. to me this this is what i have been wanting, but I can't justify the price https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-realistic-elephant-model/1036112

     

    Wow! That is an amazing elephant on TurboSquid!

    Do those models have the pose library resources that DAZ typically has for all its models?

    I am not after the renders as finished products per se. I only use DAZ3D as reference for my paintings. ... To avoid copyright issues with using photos for reference.

    However, the amount of money I've spent on DAZ could have easily allowed me to hire live models. Going on a safari to get pictures of an Elephant would be even more expensive though, so I think in the long run the DAZ content is cheaper. And I can make things look believable in the paintings. 

     

     

  • Phoenix1966Phoenix1966 Posts: 1,838
    FSMCDesigns said:
    von Hobo said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    I really want to get this if just for the updated textures snce I have been wanting a new African elephant for ages. this version just looks to 'droopy" and not majestic as I have seen in documentaries

    I have been waiting on an African Elephant, and a realistic house cat, for a while now. 

    I'll settle for this elephant. It's not perfect but none of the animals on DAZ are perfect. With lighting and atmosphere you might get some realistic results. 

    I've also been waiting for a G8M Skeleton. The Midnight Skeleton looks like a circus clown. I would really love to get something like M4 Skeleton that works with G8M or G8F poses. 

    Is that too much to ask for? LOL

     

    I hear ya. to me this this is what i have been wanting, but I can't justify the price https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-realistic-elephant-model/1036112

     

    Wow. Gorgeous.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843
    von Hobo said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    von Hobo said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    I really want to get this if just for the updated textures snce I have been wanting a new African elephant for ages. this version just looks to 'droopy" and not majestic as I have seen in documentaries

    I have been waiting on an African Elephant, and a realistic house cat, for a while now. 

    I'll settle for this elephant. It's not perfect but none of the animals on DAZ are perfect. With lighting and atmosphere you might get some realistic results. 

    I've also been waiting for a G8M Skeleton. The Midnight Skeleton looks like a circus clown. I would really love to get something like M4 Skeleton that works with G8M or G8F poses. 

    Is that too much to ask for? LOL

     

    I hear ya. to me this this is what i have been wanting, but I can't justify the price https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-realistic-elephant-model/1036112

     

    Wow! That is an amazing elephant on TurboSquid!

    Do those models have the pose library resources that DAZ typically has for all its models?

    I am not after the renders as finished products per se. I only use DAZ3D as reference for my paintings. ... To avoid copyright issues with using photos for reference.

    However, the amount of money I've spent on DAZ could have easily allowed me to hire live models. Going on a safari to get pictures of an Elephant would be even more expensive though, so I think in the long run the DAZ content is cheaper. And I can make things look believable in the paintings. 

     

     

    Nope, they are usually just the HD model with quality PBR textures. some of the time they are actually rigged, but that doesn't transfer over to DS since DS has it's own way of rigging. so it would have to be re-rigged in DS. In many cases the cost includes the license to resell it as a commercial product, kinda like a merchant resource. I worked for a company that did this for flightsim aircraft since just having the model was only the first step in getting it into flightsim. If I knew how to rig well, then getting it and then rifgging it as a product for DS would justify the cost since I could probably get it back and then some.

    the big problem with DS addons and it being such a small, niche market is while I am grateful for this new version at DAZ, it also means that another PA will probably not even attempt another elephant any time soon if at all, so my hopes for another one that fits my needs more are all but gone.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    $200 for a detailed model that isn't rigged in 3DS format?
    What a bargain!

     

  • DeepseaDeepsea Posts: 119

    Dear Gogger

    The rendering you made is just amazing in reality. Thanks for that.

    We try to do our best with products that are affordable for everyone.
    It's Daz's DNA and that's what I like.
    It gives me great pleasure when I see one of you making such a beautiful render, as a perfect picture. Thank you

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,487
    Deepsea said:

    Dear Gogger

    The rendering you made is just amazing in reality. Thanks for that.

    We try to do our best with products that are affordable for everyone.
    It's Daz's DNA and that's what I like.
    It gives me great pleasure when I see one of you making such a beautiful render, as a perfect picture. Thank you

    D'aaawwww.... Thanks, @Deepsea.  :) 

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