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Maximum Vasculum [commercial]

RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
edited April 2014 in The Commons

Maximum Vasculum

Now Available

http://www.daz3d.com/rawart/maximum-vasculum


High Quality High Definition Vein morphs for Genesis2 Male and Female.
The extreme vascular look seen on athletes and bodybuilders can strength to any of your G2m/G2F characters.
Independently hand crafted on separate body parts to look completely natural without symmetry.
As morphs, they can be dialed as high or as low as your character calls for, giving the ability to look natural or dramatically extreme.


Product Includes:

G2M
• One Head Vein Morph
• One Left Arm Vein Morph
• One Right Arm Vein Morph
• One Left Leg Vein Morph
• One Right Leg Vein Morph
• One Torso Vein Morph
• One Full Body Vein Morph

G2F
• One Head Vein Morph
• One Left Arm Vein Morph
• One Right Arm Vein Morph
• One Left Leg Vein Morph
• One Right Leg Vein Morph
• One Torso Vein Morph
• One Full Body Vein Morph

• Also includes Poser companion files

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Comments

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    edited December 1969

    Looks really good.

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783
    edited December 1969

    Ooh, me want! Especially since it's got Poser files too. This isn't HD, is it? 'cuz HD is marvelous but won't work for me in plain ol' Poser 10.

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited December 1969

    it is HD...that is the only way something like this could be done (as a morph)

    Rawn

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,366
    edited December 1969

    Looks great RAWN. I'll be snatching this one up!

  • ByrdieByrdie Posts: 1,783
    edited December 1969

    Hm ... probably still gonna have it, as I can run DS on this machine and that's 64-bit.

  • TotteTotte Posts: 14,839
    edited December 1969

    Rawn - I like what I see, great to have different kinds of vascularity to get variety.

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    its about time someone did something in this vein

  • Mr Gneiss GuyMr Gneiss Guy Posts: 462
    edited December 1969

    LycanthropeX said:
    its about time someone did something in this vein

    I see what you did there...

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,365
    edited December 1969

    This looks like a must buy. Love it. When will it come out?

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited December 1969

    Kulay Wolf said:
    This looks like a must buy. Love it. When will it come out?

    umm...Very soon :)

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited December 1969

    LycanthropeX said:
    its about time someone did something in this vein


    yeah...someone had to do it...like someone had to make that pun LOL

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    RawArt said:
    LycanthropeX said:
    its about time someone did something in this vein


    yeah...someone had to do it...like someone had to make that pun LOL

    well aren't you just the one with your finger on the pulse

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    If you give him a microphone and put him on stage, can we call him Buster Bloodvessel...? ;-)

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,366
    edited December 1969

    Yea one thing about RAWN is his threads usually means it's just around the corner! :-)

  • SorelSorel Posts: 1,412
    edited December 1969

    I'll be grabbing these. I have Simon's vein product too but these will add to the variety.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    SNAP!! Here is my Credit Card. Just waiting on the files now....

  • DavidGBDavidGB Posts: 570
    edited December 1969

    Question:

    In G2 Female, does it raise veins on the breasts?

    It's been my observation that on vascular women athletes, martial artists, bodybuilders etc, while their vascularity is like vascular men's elsewhere on the body, raised veins do NOT show on the breasts with women even when they are standing out like cables on the arms. And that has been the problem with just chucking SY's free Veins and Simon's HD veins for G2M over to G2F - work fine everywhere else on G2F, but raise veins on the breasts. (Of course one can not use the torso morph in both cases, but then one loses all the veins over the abdomen.) And while it's easy to edit out unwanted veins on displacement maps, it's not so easy to remove them from HD morphs for us non-PA mortals who can't save (edited) HD morphs.

    So, if no veins on the breasts of the G2F version, I'm buying these (or if breast veins are a separate morph from the rest of the torso). If not ... probably not. I'd rather not go through the hoohah of getting then going through the returns process.

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,365
    edited April 2014

    RawArt said:
    Kulay Wolf said:
    This looks like a must buy. Love it. When will it come out?

    umm...Very soon :)

    goes put it in the cart so I can play with it before going to my mum's.


    edit: wait I can save on other RawArt's stuff too when I get this? my eyes have been on some of those K4 kids but I really want them since I found out that K4 morphs can be transferred via Genx2. I want the blue k4 character.

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  • SimonWMSimonWM Posts: 924
    edited December 1969

    DavidGB said:
    Question:

    In G2 Female, does it raise veins on the breasts?

    It's been my observation that on vascular women athletes, martial artists, bodybuilders etc, while their vascularity is like vascular men's elsewhere on the body, raised veins do NOT show on the breasts with women even when they are standing out like cables on the arms. And that has been the problem with just chucking SY's free Veins and Simon's HD veins for G2M over to G2F - work fine everywhere else on G2F, but raise veins on the breasts.

    Do not want to hijack Rawart thread but as it is natural that having two vein products in the store first, people will make comparisons to my products I see the need to post a reply to DavidGB.

    As you have probably seen from experience using my products veins are not going all over the place but carefully placed where they belong in real life since I'm not just an artist but also have practiced weightlifting all my life and bodybuilding is a passion of mine. For my product(s) I hired as a model a professional bodybuilder winner of the Dexter Jackson Championship and Lee Haney 8X Mr. Olimpia team member, who is a personal friend of mine. He was my main reference for both my vein products besides hundreds other photo references.

    My product "Veins HD" is not meant to be used with females. Veins will display on female breasts when their bodyfat percentage is extremely low so if Rawart set displays it that way it may not be wrong if you use it on a female and lower her breast size.

    My product "Add Some Veins" which is meant to be used on females avoids the veins on the lower part of the breast which as you correctly point out doesn't shows veins in competitors with full breasts.

  • whispers65whispers65 Posts: 1,034
    edited December 1969

    I hope I don't sound vain when I say I don't like veins and especially on woman but...

    I see RawArt's name and I automatically go all weak in the knees so...

    of in the cart it goes and really the only thing I can think of using it for is like a scene from Scanners...

    Scanners??? I guess that kind of shows my age a little bit. :)

    I'm compelled so off in the cart it goes.

  • TSasha SmithTSasha Smith Posts: 27,365
    edited December 1969

    whispers65 said:
    I hope I don't sound vain when I say I don't like veins and especially on woman but...

    I see RawArt's name and I automatically go all weak in the knees so...

    of in the cart it goes and really the only thing I can think of using it for is like a scene from Scanners...

    Scanners??? I guess that kind of shows my age a little bit. :)

    I'm compelled so off in the cart it goes.

    I have to sit down to see the RawArt's new product out right now. I need to get dressed and get ready to go to my Mum's but I guess I am weak in the knees too.

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited December 1969

    DavidGB said:
    Question:

    In G2 Female, does it raise veins on the breasts?

    It's been my observation that on vascular women athletes, martial artists, bodybuilders etc, while their vascularity is like vascular men's elsewhere on the body, raised veins do NOT show on the breasts with women even when they are standing out like cables on the arms. And that has been the problem with just chucking SY's free Veins and Simon's HD veins for G2M over to G2F - work fine everywhere else on G2F, but raise veins on the breasts. (Of course one can not use the torso morph in both cases, but then one loses all the veins over the abdomen.) And while it's easy to edit out unwanted veins on displacement maps, it's not so easy to remove them from HD morphs for us non-PA mortals who can't save (edited) HD morphs.

    So, if no veins on the breasts of the G2F version, I'm buying these (or if breast veins are a separate morph from the rest of the torso). If not ... probably not. I'd rather not go through the hoohah of getting then going through the returns process.

    The amount of visible veins on the chest is proportionate to the amount of body fat covering them. The breasts will naturally have more body fat and as such the amount of visible veins will be less. Some female body builders really do not have much body fat even in the breast area, so they may have more visible veins than other women.

    My set does have veins across the chest, but not on the breasts themselves (for just that reason).

    If having veins on the chest is still a problem, my set is designed so that you can apply the morphs to any specific body part you wish. So if you do not want veins on the torso, you can simply not apply them there.

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  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited April 2014

    whispers65 said:
    I hope I don't sound vain when I say I don't like veins and especially on woman but...

    I see RawArt's name and I automatically go all weak in the knees so...

    of in the cart it goes and really the only thing I can think of using it for is like a scene from Scanners...

    Scanners??? I guess that kind of shows my age a little bit. :)

    I'm compelled so off in the cart it goes.

    Ok...so my brain washing is working....muharharharhar!!!!!!!

    *steeples fingers Mr Burns style" "excelllent!"

    BTW....I LOVE the scanners movies!...that is one movie(s) that I would not mind seeing redone with new hollywood effects.


    Rawn

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  • phcriado_50d0961ab5phcriado_50d0961ab5 Posts: 79
    edited December 1969

    Is there any way of using these with Genesis 1 ? I tried some tutorials to transfer the morphs, but the HD stuff turns to nothingness on G1. Do you think GenX-2 would work ?

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited December 1969

    awz4158 said:
    Is there any way of using these with Genesis 1 ? I tried some tutorials to transfer the morphs, but the HD stuff turns to nothingness on G1. Do you think GenX-2 would work ?

    They were made for Genesis 2, I cannot really say how they would work on genesis 1 as they were really not designed for it.

    HD morphs do work on genesis 1, the HD is not dependent on the figure, it is a function of d/s itself. I have a few HD character for genesis1 in the store.

    Rawn

  • phcriado_50d0961ab5phcriado_50d0961ab5 Posts: 79
    edited December 1969

    just upgraded from genx to genx-2 and tried to transfer the morphs, it's the same as the transfer utility, they have no effect on genesis 1, well... bummer :(

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    you're so vein, you probably think this post is about you

  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 6,102
    edited December 1969

    LycanthropeX said:
    you're so vein, you probably think this post is about you

    I do ;)

  • DavidGBDavidGB Posts: 570
    edited December 1969

    SimonWM said:
    DavidGB said:
    Question:

    In G2 Female, does it raise veins on the breasts?

    It's been my observation that on vascular women athletes, martial artists, bodybuilders etc, while their vascularity is like vascular men's elsewhere on the body, raised veins do NOT show on the breasts with women even when they are standing out like cables on the arms. And that has been the problem with just chucking SY's free Veins and Simon's HD veins for G2M over to G2F - work fine everywhere else on G2F, but raise veins on the breasts.

    Do not want to hijack Rawart thread but as it is natural that having two vein products in the store first, people will make comparisons to my products I see the need to post a reply to DavidGB.

    As you have probably seen from experience using my products veins are not going all over the place but carefully placed where they belong in real life since I'm not just an artist but also have practiced weightlifting all my life and bodybuilding is a passion of mine. For my product(s) I hired as a model a professional bodybuilder winner of the Dexter Jackson Championship and Lee Haney 8X Mr. Olimpia team member, who is a personal friend of mine. He was my main reference for both my vein products besides hundreds other photo references.

    My product "Veins HD" is not meant to be used with females. Veins will display on female breasts when their bodyfat percentage is extremely low so if Rawart set displays it that way it may not be wrong if you use it on a female and lower her breast size.

    Please note I wasn't complaining about your product. I know it was designed for men - as recognized by my referring to chucking your and SY's morphs over to G2F, where I'm clearly modifying it to be used other than as intended, otherwise I wouldn't be copying the files over to the other figure and editing the files in a text editor to work with the other figure. I was really emphasising here to RawArt that my interest is specifically in this product with regard to use with G2F, not G2M, and the very specific question about veins in that particular location. I have many of your products, and think they are all excellent. Indeed one of the very first thing I did with both G2F and G2M when they were released was convert your Genesis Alive! (with Evolution Muscularity) over to them with the Transfer Utility. I find several of your products indispensable. The point really was that, given your product for use on male characters, I don't really want RawArt's as well UNLESS it offers a specific functionality - use on females - which yours does not (and was not meant to).

    As for veins in that area on females - I am aware of the realities with assorted bodyfat levels. Two points: 1) I can point to a lot of female bodybuilders and fitness competitors and models who do not show vascularity over the breasts at all even when very low, sub-10 percent and much lower bodyfat and lean and vascular elsewhere: yes, it's often a lot to do with their having breast implants ... but the fact is a great many of them DO have implants, so it is a common look. 2) I'm actually not wanting to portray bodybuilders, but women more like various athletes and martial artists I could point to who are not as low on bodyfat as contest condition bodybuilders, but who show slight vascularity in some veins at rest, and rather more in appropriate body parts when exerting themselves without still being at ripped bodybuilder levels. And they, without implants, do NOT show any vascularity over the breasts at all.

  • DavidGBDavidGB Posts: 570
    edited December 1969

    RawArt said:

    The amount of visible veins on the chest is proportionate to the amount of body fat covering them. The breasts will naturally have more body fat and as such the amount of visible veins will be less. Some female body builders really do not have much body fat even in the breast area, so they may have more visible veins than other women.

    My set does have veins across the chest, but not on the breasts themselves (for just that reason).


    I am very aware of the realities with regard to bodyfat on e.g. female bodybuilders. Yes, in contest condition rather than off season walking around weight they go very low on bodyfat. SOME, in that condition, end up with very shrunken breasts that have so little fat on them that chest and breast vein vascularity shows. SOME, through a genetic quirk, lose fat from breasts last/late rather than first/early (as most women do),and maintain sufficient breast size even when contest weight that no breast and immediately above chest vascularity shows. MOST pro competitors and those who make a living modelling have implants of kinds that produce a substantial shapely breast where naturally they would just have tiny loose flaps, and which mask the breast/chest vascularity completely.

    But leaving that aside, I am more interested in characters who are the equivalent of certain female athletes and martial artists, rather than bodybuilders or fitness competitors or models. While lower in body fat than average women, they are not THAT low, and only show slight vascularity in some of the main veins when relaxed, but the appropriate stressed bodypart can get quite vascular - but not at bodybuilder competition levels - when exerting themselves at full capacity. And even with natural breasts, not implants, such people do not generally display breast/chest vascularity at all. So it's for that I'm looking at your product, and I suspect that I would not be dialling the morphs to 1. but rather something much less for relaxed, and a bit more but still less than 1 for stressed.

    If having veins on the chest is still a problem, my set is designed so that you can apply the morphs to any specific body part you wish. So if you do not want veins on the torso, you can simply not apply them there.

    The torso, yes. As I indicated in my post, after experiments with the two converted male sets - which both have 'just torso' morphs - I don't find that an entirely satisfactory solution. It means to get the chest I want, I have to sacrifice the abdominal veins as well as the chest ones. In other words the specificity of body parts isn't specific enough - I'm really looking for separate morphs for upper torso (diaphragm and upwards), and lower torso.

    The annoying thing is, with these HD morphs, I'd quite happily buy the morphs, take the morphed figure over to Hexagon and smooth out the veins I want gone, then save the editied morph for my use .... but we non-PAs can't save HD morphs, so I'd basically have to do it every session. Very annoying!

    BTW, it's cool that you've done the right and left legs and arms separately for someone who is just doing something stressing one side. But it occurs to me it would be even cooler if they were split not only left/right but forearm/upper-arm and thigh/shin. so one could stress the more specific part(s) being used in the pose - and upper torso/abs to differentiate stressing pectorals or abs. Pre HD we non-PAs could always split up morphs ourselves at need, but we can't with HD.

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