Anyone else notice...
1gecko
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... the Fayfield Room has no doors!
Lots of beautiful windows - but with the high sills there is no way to get in or out! Hope your characters love it in there!
(don't get me wrong - it is beautiful and I am actually thinking about buying it even knowing I will have to kit-bash / replace the 4th wall.)
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That's what the windows are for...
No, I hadn't conciously noticed but something seemed a bit off.
The promo page sez: "The Fayfield Room makes a great bedroom, lodge or resort room, or a mountain top getaway - your imagination is the limit."
I can only surmise that your imagination is limiting you from imagining doors where there are none, and where, in fact, none are possible.
This reminds me—in a contrariwise sort of way—of a place I used to walk past when I lived out in the country. I called it "Zen Realized," because it was a fence gate standing in a field but with no fence to go with it. I've attached a photo. Hmmmmm. Maybe I should put this in Product Suggestions.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/322591/doors-give-us-doors
design decision DAZ architecture standard protocol
...well if you have Collective 3D's Create A Room XPack2 or 3, you could always kitbash a door into that blank wall.
Just search using Files and Prop. I'm sure you have a loose door in your library.
The Fayfield Room can be anything
I think this is a kit-bash product, by design.
And not to be funny, but the DOOR you pick will probably decide what kind of room it is, and where.
And you should just be glad that this vendor included all four walls. This product could easily be screaming "Only 3 walls are needed and let me tell you where to put your camera."
Unwinding Space is also a bit weird... two large balcony like doors opening to one side. And no other doors leading deeper into whatever building it is supposed to be. In fact, small windows high on the wall opposite of those doors indicate, that the whole building consists of this single arched room...
Makes me wonder who build that room and for what reason? Big stones... arched ceiling... but no other rooms connected to it...
Weird...
We're in lockdown, who needs doors....?
that is possibly a backyard leisure room though, there could be a pool or something between it and a house
My brain tells me this is the next section, after...
https://www.daz3d.com/the-monastery
This reminds of me a game called Brink which had the tagline along the lines of "make any character you can imagine".
Apparently no one in the development team could imagine a woman, or basically anything but a person with a massive cartoon head and gorilla body..
It's called the "unwinding space". The walls unwind and you can get out..
interiors with no switches or sockets!
Though it's a little pointless plugging in any appliances. They don't usually open at all..
DAZ people are different from humans though with different needs. they all seem to manage to be able to get into cothing without any openings. I guess they can use the same shapeshifting abilities they use to get dressed to leave through tiny cracks (see I knew the horrifying shapes made by misuse of transfer utlities were intentional and their true forms!!).
There's actually a bathroom product that I won't name, that has the toilet seated directly next to the open end of the shower door. Stuff like that just makes me laugh at the thought of blindly reaching for a towel only to find toilet paper!
Our last house had a bathroom that was 4ft6in x 7ft. We fitted a bath, toilet and sink into it as well as an inwards opening door & sash window. And, if I remember correctly, some TARDIS technology, because it all fitted. The bath was a 4ft corner bath, and we used a small vanity sink. Worked quite well in the end, so it is possible to make tiny spaces work - the layout is the key driver and I think that for decorative purposes it's not thought about enough in a lot of the DS architecture.
...that is why I find sets like this so useful:
https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-cables
https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-create-a-room-xpack-2
https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-create-a-room-xpack-3
https://www.daz3d.com/pipe-werks
https://www.daz3d.com/flex-pipes
As to the dunny being right outside the shower, don't know how to fix that.unless it isn't permanently parented there.
I once bought a house where the bathroom was so small that the toilet was inside the shower. The only sink that would fit (also in the shower) was a small one meant for bars or RVs. The only things outside the shower were the towel and medicine cabinet and the toilet paper holder.
The nice thing was that bathroom cleanup was super easy. (Shower head on a hose)
well that would save on toilet paper
I suppose a room without doors is a bit different to a room with doors that don't open. Or a dunny with no seat.
Like kyoto kid mentions, there are products you can use to get around the problem. Think of it as a challenge and not a problem.
I'm not really a fan of "buy some stuff to make your other stuff work properly" unless both items come really, really, REALLY cheap.
Then there's stuff I got with a 90% price reduction that still turned out not worth the cost...
Yeah, seems I'm not the "take a challenge" kind of person...
"Work properly"? Nodody promised you doors on the product page. Working properly is when your SUV gets 10 MPG when they said it would get 30 MPG.
The opposite problem: Me & the squad I was in charge of once scrubbed the entire platoon's bathroom before inspection with bleach, water, and 10 toothbrushes (actually we usually used them to clean our rifles but whatever). That's floors, walls, stalls, ...it wasn't fun.
The Battalion Commander said they'd never inspectioned such a clean bathroom.
Wouldn't it be worse if they said "...We don't inspect bathrooms"? after the inspection. That would be the pisser. Why do Americans say bathroom for toilet? Are you taking a bath or a dump guys?
There's no bathtub in this "bathroom" scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-2E4MTc3Y
I have a bathroom without a toilet
it has a bath
the loo has it's own little room next door
When we bought that bathroom it had a bath, a drain plug & nothing else, not even taps. Reason being the bath was from 1898 & having a permanent bath was unusual, so it was considered OK to lug buckets of hot water up from the kitchen. By 1992 when we bought the house, that was getting a bit passe.
We say bathroom if there is a tub and/or shower in it. If it doesn't we still call it a bathroom because all of them have a sink for bathing/washing one's hands. Looked at logically, taking a dump is a type of 'body cleansing'. Anyway, this bathroom was want you might think: about a dozen toilet stalls (thank goodness that was privatized at least), a dozen urinals, a dozen sinks with mirrors and dozen showers in a communal bathroom and white tiles all over the floors and ceiling with mold and dirt in the grouting (before scrubbing with the toothbrushes
). I think it's been for sale even in the DAZ Store (just joking).
The other word that Americans use for bathroom that drives Englanders batty is restroom but those almost always have no shower or tub but do have sink(s) and is what American guest or tourists say to avoid too direct a reference to something as uncouth a taking a dump. Also if you Englanders visit on Derby Week and ask me where the lavoratory is, then I'm going to look at you like why are you asking a busboy in a hotel where the laboratory is, don't get mad though we really aren't taught such weird words.
If you say bathroom instead of restroom while out in public it is cringeworthy. I can picture parents all over America now cringing as their children whine "I haf to go to the bafroom!"
I remember visiting grandparents and aunts & uncles and you bathed either in the river or in a metal tub (like in cowboy movies) outside or on the kitchen floor (close to the coal stove used to heat a kettle or two of hot water for the rest of the bath water.). Also a well pump outside to get the water for the bath and everything else you needed water for. That water when first pulled smelled of rotten eggs (hydrogen sulfide). It tasted really good though.
Reminds me of visiting my Uncle Bill and Aunt Kathleen! They lived on their farm in a two-room 'house' that was about 22' square (or less). One room was their bedroom (never saw the inside of that) and the other was the family/living/dining/kitchen. The 'facilities' were in a little outhouse around back (and yes, it had a moon carved in the door) and they didn't have electricity yet the first few times I visited (keep in mind, this was 1980 or so) that I can remember. There was a big, silvery tin wash tub outside for bathing next to the hand-pump well - you either enjoyed the *invigorating* cold water just out of the ground or hauled some from the wood-burning stove inside.
... in 1980 (or very near - I was a teen at the time).
No, it wasn't Alaska or some such - just the rural South and they were (like pretty much all the family) poor.
They got electricity (and installed some fans and a couple lights) in around 1982 or so I think it was... and they still had their mid-1950s Ford (sedan - forget the model) they had bought *new* and were driving it when I a drunk driver hit them some time not too many years later. (old car was very well cared for... probably would have saved them if the guy hadn't been going so fast).
hmumh... amazing to think about - so much as changed in so little time.
...I actually got all the Collective3D sets at very good prices during "PC for a Day" sales. Very useful sets if you do a lot of kitbashing like I do
...back when I was in college I would work during the summer for campus maintenance as they rented out dorms and student apartments for various summer programmes and camps. The big push after the end of academic year was intense to say the least, and we were on a tight schedule as the first camp was only two weeks after classes ended. We had to get all the rooms and apartments up to hotel standards.and keep them that way between the different programmes throughout the summer. While we had quite an array of cleaning tools, we had to use these little grout brushes (slightly bigger than a toothbrush) in the showers to clean the grout between tiles. This was the most tedious part of the job as we were on the south edge of Puget Sound (at the foot of the Olympic Peninsula which is known for a large temperate rainforest) where it is fairly damp through a good part of summer, so mould and mildew was a constant issue..