Question about Accentus by Human

WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137

I have a question about https://www.daz3d.com/accentus I don't see individual props listed. Is this one big prop where nothing can be moved? Thanks.

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,871

    I have a question about https://www.daz3d.com/accentus I don't see individual props listed. Is this one big prop where nothing can be moved? Thanks.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/62443/file_list

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    edited May 2020
    nemesis10 said:

    I have a question about https://www.daz3d.com/accentus I don't see individual props listed. Is this one big prop where nothing can be moved? Thanks.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/62443/file_list

    Yeah, but nothing in there or in the readme about useable props.  Props are something I look for when buying a set.  I don't own anything by this PA, so I'm curious, as well.

    Post edited by Sevrin on
  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,827

    All promotional images have been created with iray and without post work. With ingenuity and creativity, you will be able to create much better images. 

    What's that about?
     

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,871

    Multiple duf files implies separate pieces with separate texture maps.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    nemesis10 said:

    Multiple duf files implies separate pieces with separate texture maps.

    It might imply that, but implications lead to assumptions, and we all know what can happen when you assume things.

    If anyone actually knows anything about this vendor's products, please chime in.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,369

    Though I don't own Accentus, I have Ebano and Kunzen, and they both consist of individual props including walls (but no separate load icons). But I see that both of their product pages specifically mention props separately. So, as a recovering ARS Syndrome sufferer (Anal Retentive Stickler), I can't make a definitive statement about Accentus.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited May 2020
    Sevrin said:
    nemesis10 said:

    Multiple duf files implies separate pieces with separate texture maps.

    It might imply that, but implications lead to assumptions, and we all know what can happen when you assume things.

    If anyone actually knows anything about this vendor's products, please chime in.

    Some artists believe their job stops sometime before it's submitted, as though the promo art and blurb are not part of the job.

    I'm not saying this artists is.

    If I get that impression, however, or I have to make assumptions, I might ask here, but as I don't own any of this artist's items, nor have any in my wishlist, it suggests a reason; as the promo images look good and the products look good, but something is holding me back from purchasing.

    So yes, I too am wary of making assumptions.

    There are ten's of thousands of products, I need my attention 1) Grabbing. 2) Keeping. 3) And it needs to be long enough to encourage me to drop it in shopping cart.

    Post edited by nicstt on
  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    Asari said:
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

     

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

    That's a shame.  Having separate selectable props adds so much value to a set.  You never know when you'll need a certain candle or bookshelf or something with a certain look and all these props you get with sets give you more options.

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    Sevrin said:
    Asari said:
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

     

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

    That's a shame.  Having separate selectable props adds so much value to a set.  You never know when you'll need a certain candle or bookshelf or something with a certain look and all these props you get with sets give you more options.

    Yes, single prop load adds more options, I often put props together for interiors. The Lugano set doesn't offer this option sadly.
  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    Sevrin said:
    Asari said:
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

     

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

    That's a shame.  Having separate selectable props adds so much value to a set.  You never know when you'll need a certain candle or bookshelf or something with a certain look and all these props you get with sets give you more options.

    If they are separate in the scene, can't you save them out as a prop for future use? But they won't be in smart content of course. But it's still unclear if it's just one big prop and whether you can even move the chairs... 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    Sevrin said:
    Asari said:
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

     

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

    That's a shame.  Having separate selectable props adds so much value to a set.  You never know when you'll need a certain candle or bookshelf or something with a certain look and all these props you get with sets give you more options.

    If they are separate in the scene, can't you save them out as a prop for future use? But they won't be in smart content of course. But it's still unclear if it's just one big prop and whether you can even move the chairs... 

    Theoretically?  Sure.  You can take every part of every set you have and save it in a separate file, in case you might want to use it in the future.

  • AsariAsari Posts: 703
    Sevrin said:
    Asari said:
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

     

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

    That's a shame.  Having separate selectable props adds so much value to a set.  You never know when you'll need a certain candle or bookshelf or something with a certain look and all these props you get with sets give you more options.

    If they are separate in the scene, can't you save them out as a prop for future use? But they won't be in smart content of course. But it's still unclear if it's just one big prop and whether you can even move the chairs... 

    It's yes and yes for Lugano at least. You can move the props in the scene and you can save them out as subscenes to be used in other scenes. As I wrote it's not a big prop altogether.
  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137

    I did end up buying it. I'll test it out tomorrow. If I ever get to sleep. 4:20 AM and I have insomnia. Hmm... 4:20, gives me an idea lol...

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130
    Sevrin said:
    Asari said:
    I own the set Lugano which does not have prop listed in its shop page.

     

    The set us divided into its different props do it's not all one single node once it loads however there is no duf file that lets you load the prop individually. There are also no mats load options either. I don't have Accentus do I can't say for sure whether it fits Accentus or not.

    That's a shame.  Having separate selectable props adds so much value to a set.  You never know when you'll need a certain candle or bookshelf or something with a certain look and all these props you get with sets give you more options.

    If they are separate in the scene, can't you save them out as a prop for future use? But they won't be in smart content of course. But it's still unclear if it's just one big prop and whether you can even move the chairs... 

    You can also add it in Smart content, if you want, with categorisation. If I could create a complete new product with multiple part and add it in Smart Content, i don't see why you couldn't do it with these props. It would just take some more work from you.

    About it all being one big object question, I don't think that would ever happen. When you model the items you model them individually.

    When you add materials for them, you also do that. Once in the scene, anyone would want to play around with the position of certain elements until the fit with the artist's vision.

    Only way I can think of where everything would indeed be only one object (highly unlikely as it is) is if the artist is very proficient in another software and does the renders there and not in Daz.

    That way, he/she would create the scene and render it in that software and afterwards, at the end import it Daz and only one object would be obtained.

    But I don't think that would be the case.

    Some objects being stuck together like multiple walls or even multiple pillows or whatever makes sense, but the whole scene being one prop, from a modeller point of view, seems almost impossible to me.

  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,827

    About it all being one big object question, I don't think that would ever happen. 

    You must be new here.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,878

    About it all being one big object question, I don't think that would ever happen.

    That has definitely happened for some other sets.

  • alex86firealex86fire Posts: 1,130

    This is crazy... Who would ever do that?

    It must be intentional, I don't see how else could happen.

    Was it in the old days though, or is it something recent?

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,369

    If you import into Daz Studio without keeping the meshes separate (through whatever means), then they come in as one mesh. Or you can have a single mesh where the pieces are bones rather than a bunch of parented props. This was not so uncommon a few years ago.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    xyer0 said:

    If you import into Daz Studio without keeping the meshes separate (through whatever means), then they come in as one mesh. Or you can have a single mesh where the pieces are bones rather than a bunch of parented props. This was not so uncommon a few years ago.

    The Old Shambles is an example of that.  The bits of greenery, however, are separate props.  I was working on a scene with it this morning, and it's a  beautiful set, but I wish somethings had been done differently.

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,369
    edited May 2020
    Sevrin said:
    xyer0 said:

    If you import into Daz Studio without keeping the meshes separate (through whatever means), then they come in as one mesh. Or you can have a single mesh where the pieces are bones rather than a bunch of parented props. This was not so uncommon a few years ago.

    The Old Shambles is an example of that.  The bits of greenery, however, are separate props.  I was working on a scene with it this morning, and it's a  beautiful set, but I wish somethings had been done differently.

    I know the set. So skillfully made, but not so easily customizable.

    Post edited by xyer0 on
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,496

    I have https://www.daz3d.com/terrazzo and https://www.daz3d.com/wohnen-living-room and looked at all three file lists. While on my promo pdfs Human listed the props, and didn't on the Accentus product, they all follow the same file pattern under /DATA... so it might be a good bet they are separate. But it is weird they didn't list them this time. The sets I have they noted opening doors and encouraging customizing them to your own needs.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    edited May 2020

    OK so I bought it and everything is separate in the sense that they can be moved or hidden or retextured. They are not individual props in smart content but you can make instances of them or save out as a prop. 

    Post edited by Wonderland on
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