Grimes - You'll Miss Me When I'm Not Around

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    Ivy said:

    I think it be fun for someone who are in isolation. But I can think of better projects that don't put you in jeopardy of content violations on YouTube.  I have enough issues with that as it is.  For daz's part this is a really generous offer.  The daz content is good choices . Its just to bad I already own all of items offered. nothing to gain here for me anyway.

    But I do look forward to see what some creative person does with this stuff.  laugh

    There won't be any danger of content violations for this, as this is a project promoted by the artist.

    Also: Free Stuff!

  • CELESRACELESRA Posts: 93

    On youtube she already has 300+ and counting videos done already. Good luck to her *chuckles*

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    I'm intrigued, but... can anyone translate the items listed in the Grimes Art Bundle promo page as being "Free From Grimes" into the downloads listed in the small text file of instructions (which is the only thing that downloads when you click the button)? DAZ says "Green Screen Footage" and "Audio Stems", Grimes says "Dragon Colors" and "Log Files". They don't match, and I have no idea what's which is whosis.

    It doesn't help that the instructions essentially says "press the Make Art button"...

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,081

    I'm intrigued, but... can anyone translate the items listed in the Grimes Art Bundle promo page as being "Free From Grimes" into the downloads listed in the small text file of instructions (which is the only thing that downloads when you click the button)? DAZ says "Green Screen Footage" and "Audio Stems", Grimes says "Dragon Colors" and "Log Files". They don't match, and I have no idea what's which is whosis.

    It doesn't help that the instructions essentially says "press the Make Art button"...

    her stuff is on her video with some instructions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IHaCyX6-Xo

    from what I gather you can use it other ways, some people done stuff like Animal Crossing game on a TV consol, Minecraft you name it

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    I never heard of Grimes & listened to the music video expecting to hate it but wound up liking the sound of her voice, the music, and the production of the music. Her voice and the music was autotuned but in a smart ethereal way, not the usual autotune. I'm not a fan of  some of the lyrics in that song, lol, sometimes it pays not to know what people are saying. I'll try to remember that. I might try to make a Grimes alterna-video but that's like 50GB data, even if I were knowledgeable and good at that, which I ain't, I'd doubt my computer's ability to process and merge that much data with any simple animation I might muster. Like that I have Willow Creek, Aslan 1 Iray, Space Living Room and the Taj Mahal looking set as freebies in any event and I will check out other songs from Grimes.

  • lycanine said:

    As someone close to the age of 40, I think a new program will take me 6 months + to learn. Hence, I will gladly sit this one out. :)

    I'm 50 years old and learn new features on the programs I use every day.  Give it a shot. :)

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    Pretty cool... like the sword and the mechano wing rig... interesting idea.  but now I need to learn video editing because I can't unsee the garment care tag that shows up on her shawl around 2:00... 

  • kimhkimh Posts: 394
    edited April 2020

    And I turned 60 in January and I think my middle name is LearnNewthings. That old adage about teaching old dogs is a crock. It's all in your attitude. You just need to want to change and of course find things that interest you

    But I have to admit the breaking of the "give a shit" meter at 50 is true  cheeky

     

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  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,880
    edited April 2020

     

    lycanine said:

    As someone close to the age of 40, I think a new program will take me 6 months + to learn. Hence, I will gladly sit this one out. :)

    I'm 50 years old and learn new features on the programs I use every day.  Give it a shot. :)

    yes

    Great advice! I'm in my mid 60's and learn new software continually. Not only do I learn new software, but I turn around and teach the use of the software and underlying concepts to people 18-50 years old. IMHO at 40 you're way to young to think you can't learn new software (or anything new for that matter). Give it a shot, you just might be surprised at what you can do.

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  • DustRiderDustRider Posts: 2,880
    kimh said:

    And I turned 60 in January and I think my middle name is LearnNewthings. That old adage about teaching old dogs is a crock. It's all in your attitude. You just need to want to change and of course find things that interest you

    But I have to admit the breaking of the "give a shit" meter at 50 is true  cheeky

     

    yes

    The last part I still haven't fully embraced, but I do understand it much better wink

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited April 2020

    So I watched a few of the 'You'll Miss Me' videos on Youtube.  None of them really wowed me.  A number of them were simply superimposing Grimes' video over footage from games, movies, etc. which was kind of cool, but not the same as 'from scratch'.

    There are a lot of videos uploaded for the song though, so I certainly didn't watch all of them.  Looking at the two 9 second snippets that the Daz team posted, I'm definitely thinking that if someone here was so inclined, that they could make something that's really cool.  Just don't feel obligated to use the 'source' footage in the foreground for the entirety of the video, as that gets boring IMHO.  Could use some MTV style editing and all that... although not too crazy as personally I hate it when videos feel the need to change the images every other second...

    It does seem to be a good way for Grimes to attract more interest in her music, based on the number of uploads so far.  I don't think Youtube is going to have much of an issue letting people around here upload stuff, based on the number of videos uploaded for the song already...

    So yeah, definitely wondering if anyone here will actually take a crack at this, and if so, looking forward to see what they come up with!

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  • novastridernovastrider Posts: 208
    edited April 2020

    I am definitely technically able to do a full music video at high quality but it would also take me a month. So Im personally passing on this one. But this is a good initiative and it is nice to see Daz and Grimes finding each other. So hoping this will be succesful for both parties and would welcome further initiatives like this. How bout a build 3D Grimes in 30 hours contest? I could win something like that hahaha.

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746
    edited April 2020

     

    I am definitely technically able to do a full music video at high quality but it would also take me a month. So Im personally passing on this one. But this is a good initiative and it is nice to see Daz and Grimes finding each other. So hoping this will be succesful for both parties and would welcome further initiatives like this. How bout a build 3D Grimes in 30 hours contest? I could win something like that hahaha.

    Rather than Grimes and Daz finding eachother, this seems more like Daz bandwagoning onto Grimes's thing as a way to boost its profile - not that i have any objection to that at all, as clearly this was an open invitation for any platform, including Daz, to be involved.

    Edit: i just read that apparently grimes has employed Daz for previous projects, so guess my comment above is a mischaracterisation but just going to leave it there for posterity

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    It doesn't help that the instructions essentially says "press the Make Art button"...

    her stuff is on her video with some instructions
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IHaCyX6-Xo

    That's not instructions, that's the same text from the tiny file the DAZ page says is "The Grimes Download".

    If things are going this far over my head and I can't understand the terms used, then the whole thing's probably intended for people who already do animation at a pretty high level. Which isn't me. I think I'll give this a pass.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    Is After Effects required or will another video editor do?  All I have is Pinnacle Studio, and uh, whatever I can get for free.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited April 2020

    The image series in each folder of the art work folder download is in PNG  format and is a blank back ground layer so you will need to render the back grounds and animate any fill ins  so any film editor that can load a folder full of png's and process them into a AVI or MP4 will work. Hitfilm express is free and Adobe premiere elements is $99 those both works well after effect would work but not necessary . the audio or music file comes in .WAV and is 978megs so your film editor will need to work with wav audio files as well.

     I converted the music file to MP3 and reduced it to 3.7 megs..lol

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,081

    I am more surprised the MikuMikuDance crowd are not onto it already surprise

  • 0996ps0996ps Posts: 182
    Ivy said:

    The image series in each folder of the art work folder download is in PNG  format and is a blank back ground layer so you will need to render the back grounds and animate any fill ins  so any film editor that can load a folder full of png's and process them into a AVI or MP4 will work. Hitfilm express is free and Adobe premiere elements is $99 those both works well after effect would work but not necessary . the audio or music file comes in .WAV and is 978megs so your film editor will need to work with wav audio files as well.

     I converted the music file to MP3 and reduced it to 3.7 megs..lol

    Could you give me that converted music file? I can not download big files.

  • 0996ps0996ps Posts: 182

    damn, I also can't download 4k greenscreen. it will take me days.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,081

    meh tried

    Chrome froze up my computer for a couple hours then the downloads failed

    not exactly a great recommendation for that WET transfersurprise

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    damn, I also can't download 4k greenscreen. it will take me days.

    You actually only need

    a) from Grimes shared downloads: the Cover Art, the Audio Files, and the DocX with the lyrics. The other files are apparently 4K and 1K uncompressed (or nearly so) MOV files (all 6 MOV zip files (2 Dragon Color, 2 Log Files, 1 Dragon Color Snippets, 1 Log Files Snippets) total about about 50 GB) and while interesting aren't needed to make the composited music video. You can watch the green screen video on YouTube.

    b) from DAZ 3D: the Shot03_CGBG and the Grimes Package. You don't even need the DAZ 3D freebies but they are free regular products & nice. You could use any DAZ or non-DAZ products you like to composite with the green screen PNG files supplied (the Set03_CBGV and Grimes Package). The DAZ 3D Grimes bundle does include helpful key framing aids though regardless of with DAZ or other product you use so it's best to get it.

    Now if you make a 4K composited video it will take a while to upload itself. If I do this at all I will probably stick to 1280x720p so as to finish this month seeing as I CPU render (162 seconds x 24 frames per second = 3888 total CPU rendered frames) 

    For compositing you probably want Blender or Hitfilm Express unless you already own Adobe Premiere.

    https://www.blender.org/

    https://fxhome.com/hitfilm-express/pwyw

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited April 2020
    Ivy said:

    The image series in each folder of the art work folder download is in PNG  format and is a blank back ground layer so you will need to render the back grounds and animate any fill ins  so any film editor that can load a folder full of png's and process them into a AVI or MP4 will work. Hitfilm express is free and Adobe premiere elements is $99 those both works well after effect would work but not necessary . the audio or music file comes in .WAV and is 978megs so your film editor will need to work with wav audio files as well.

     I converted the music file to MP3 and reduced it to 3.7 megs..lol

    Could you give me that converted music file? I can not download big files.

    the license says i can not redistribute any of the files  & I was able to reduce the .wav file as well down to 24 megs with audacity free open source audio editor https://www.audacityteam.org/

    damn, I also can't download 4k greenscreen. it will take me days.

    They offer 2 options 4k  or 1080p. The  1080p demo zip files are 4.5 gigs large &  7.9gigs for the 4k.  But you don't need the green screen or demo files unless you want to use them as incorporated as part of the video demo. the png's image series are already processed and you can drop and drag each folder into a video editor for composting with back grounds made with the daz assets. or if your really creative put them into something that was not included in the kit  like use a HDRi and have her walking in or threw the clouds. or something like that instead  There are 5 art folders, each of them have about 225 pngs that will need to be composted into video format so they can be edited. making up only 1 minute 24 seconds of video of the 2minute 47 seconds of the song  .  So you will need to added 1 minute 22 seconds of your own renders to fill in the gaps in the film demo.  .My guess is they want to see people use their creative juices to come up with some original video demos. think outside the box. I looked these files over closely and should be easily used by anyone that have any basic video editing skills and when i put the png's in my video editor they are set up to run at 30 key frames per second .

    good luck

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  • novastridernovastrider Posts: 208

    meh tried

    Chrome froze up my computer for a couple hours then the downloads failed

    not exactly a great recommendation for that WET transfersurprise
     

    WeTransfer is highly reliable for large files, problem would sooner be a browser caching issue.

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,661

    In the store I see the free bundle and also the stuff that's inside the bundle, separated from that. surprise

    What should I do? Take the bundle or the separated products?

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    why not take them all and give it a whirl laugh

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,661
    Ivy said:

    why not take them all and give it a whirl laugh

    Because I'll get same stuff twice... frown

    Better don't mess with the library. wink

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,065
    Imago said:
    Ivy said:

    why not take them all and give it a whirl laugh

    Because I'll get same stuff twice... frown

    Better don't mess with the library. wink

    Dup;licate products will not show twice in DIM/Connect, or indeed in the Product Library here.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited April 2020
    Imago said:
    Ivy said:

    why not take them all and give it a whirl laugh

    Because I'll get same stuff twice... frown

    Better don't mess with the library. wink

    I downloaded the grim files and still got the daz files even though i already owned them i put the bundle in my shopping cart to see if there were anything updated or missing from what I already had of the content offered. downloading the files didn't mess up anything in my daz content drives & and the stuff i did install just over wrote the older version of the files i already owned bring them up to date for iray

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  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    Imago said:

    In the store I see the free bundle and also the stuff that's inside the bundle, separated from that. surprise

    What should I do? Take the bundle or the separated products?

    I'd try putting the stuff that's NOT in the free bundle but is in the other bundle into your cart and see what the price is.  If you already have a few of those items, that should help reduce the cost.  Then decide how badly you want those remaining items...

    And of course, grab the free bundle!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,081

    I downloaded the smallest mov files in the snippets and Windows 10 media player cannot play them angry

    I probably can find another program that will,

    Handbrake can probably "fix" them, not  tried VLC yet

    my Win7 machine had all the codecs and everything worked

    this one is lacking somewhat in spite of having K-lite pack installed

    it seems to not add them to all my softwares like my Win7 I am constantly juggling softwares

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