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How to create the thick hazy look from mely3d promos

NorrinRadd22_5694f0872bNorrinRadd22_5694f0872b Posts: 41
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Hi Gang,

This has been bothering me for years, and I figured I would finally just ask. How do I create that same thick atmospheric air look that all of mely3d promos have in them? Here's an example:

https://www.daz3d.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/t/starship-interior-06-daz3d.jpg

I don't mean the depth of field effect either. I mean the way the light looks like it is is a heavy atmosphere, like thick air, or something. Is this just as simple as placing a cube over the whole scene with some particular shader or value on it? Or it is something more nefarious?

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited January 2020

    You need something to give an atmospheric affect; there is an ;atmocam' for Iray, and the effect can be done with 3delight too.

    Apparently, I have this: https://www.daz3d.com/atmocam-for-iray but have never used it; as least as far as I recall.

    You might also find that bloom helps, especially around the lights; how you go about it depends on the engine you're using to render.

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  • NorrinRadd22_5694f0872bNorrinRadd22_5694f0872b Posts: 41
    edited January 2020

    All things now firmly on my radar! Thanks for the suggestions :D

    I am using Iray exclusively, so I guess I need to do a little leg work. Was this a feature built in to 3delight?

    Post edited by NorrinRadd22_5694f0872b on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,257

    There is a newer version of atmocam:

    https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/059909

    I have it but haven't tried it yet either.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533

    Also looks as if they have used Bloom.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,746

    The lights definitely look very bloomy.  Sickle Yield has a tutorial on adding haze using the primitive method you described.

  • NorrinRadd22_5694f0872bNorrinRadd22_5694f0872b Posts: 41

    Very interesting. Do the two effectively do the same thing? Atmo2 and creating a primative with SSS?

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    I can do that in Photoshop CLICK it's done. I won't win any points from those who don't have Photoshop or do have it and don't know how nor will the Render Purists give me any credit, they will call it a "workaround." But it's really really really easy to do that in Photoshop. FYI for those who are open to workarounds.
  • NorrinRadd22_5694f0872bNorrinRadd22_5694f0872b Posts: 41

    What's your method to do it in Photoshop?

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    NorrinRadd22_5694f0872b said:

    What's your method to do it in Photoshop?

    I don't have Photoshop but I have Affinity Photo which has similar tools. I would imagine this method would work in Photoshop. Not one-click though.

  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,815

    https://photographypla.net/soft-haze-effect-in-photoshop/

     

    https://enviragallery.com/how-to-add-a-haze-effect-to-your-images-in-photoshop/

     

    And then I found this, which looks pretty cool too.

    https://medialoot.com/blog/create-a-dreamy-effect-in-photoshop/

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,078

    postwork is certainly easier 

    Carrara has volumetric fog and Octane converts it to openVDB and I still prefer to do it in post yes

  • Prince WaoPrince Wao Posts: 373
    marble said:
    NorrinRadd22_5694f0872b said:

    What's your method to do it in Photoshop?

    I don't have Photoshop but I have Affinity Photo which has similar tools. I would imagine this method would work in Photoshop. Not one-click though.

    Crikey y caramba! Many, many thanks for mentioning Affinity Photo! I've never heard of it before and it's just what I'm after for my current LT and future PC. And what an amazingly low price! I have an old version of PhotoShop on my ancient PC which I'll lose once I upgrade, but PhotoShop is just too expensive these days, particularly that you can no longer get it on disk.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    The atmos-cams works good takes a little bit to set up to look right though. but still work great,.  I kind of  like to use cheats for creating fog and atmospheres, most of the time I'll use planes. and layer them in front of the cam until i get the effect i am looking for.

    But I found this set by wicked creations The Forbidden Forest https://www.daz3d.com/the-forbidden-forest  set with 4 fog dome/spheres props that are amazing, not bad on resources and can be moved around to fit your needs and it kit bashes with everything i have tried the fogs spheres on with. for the price of those fog cams you could buy this set and have some fun props to boots. but its just a suggestion I like to do things outside the box

     

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,311

    @Ivy,

    Thank you for the link. I have been watching this thread, as fog is something I have tried to use within DAZ Studio, and my computer has complained and gone on strike for days afterwards. It even filed a brief with the CPU Workers Union! How I missed that forest I have no idea. Now wishlisted for when the money is in the budget. 

    I have no issue with postwork, but, I buy the products, then never seem to find the time to figure out how to use. I buy the tutorials as well. On me totally. If someone else has been able to, I am all for supporting them in their efforts. 

    Mary

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    memcneil70 said:

    @Ivy,

    Thank you for the link. I have been watching this thread, as fog is something I have tried to use within DAZ Studio, and my computer has complained and gone on strike for days afterwards. It even filed a brief with the CPU Workers Union! How I missed that forest I have no idea. Now wishlisted for when the money is in the budget. 

    I have no issue with postwork, but, I buy the products, then never seem to find the time to figure out how to use. I buy the tutorials as well. On me totally. If someone else has been able to, I am all for supporting them in their efforts. 

    Mary

    your welcome. I tend to look at things a little differently than others maybe because i try do animation with this content and need the best solutions for reducing resources being used  for rendering.  I have tons of little tricks like these. But unfortunately i won't be posting those type help videos anytime soon.

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,692

    There are a few products that use transmapped planes for fog and other atmospheric effects:

    Fog Camera, Iray EnviroCam, Fast Fog Iray, Fast Fog Iray 2: Electric Fogaloo, Plane Easy Atmospheres, and probably more.

    These shader and prop sets from Fuseling have a wide variety of shapes, materials and shaders, including many atmospheric types:

    FSL Rigged and Morphing Atmosphere Props and Shaders, FSL Weathered Shaders for Iray, FSL Filthy Dirty Future Iray Shaders, FSL Filthy Dirty Iray Shaders

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