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  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    kenshaw011267 said:
    outrider42 said:
    In games, there is talk about using the ray tracing cores for game audio effects. Just like RT cores can simulate light, they could also be used to predict more physically accurate sound. So there is that.

     

    And don't forget about the Tensor cores. They can be put to use in creative ways as well. You can write code for Tensor cores.

    Tensor cores are pretty straightforward, they do matrix math very very fast. Turns out matrix math is a big part of AI and therefore tensor cores greatly speed up AI training.

    The RT cores are optimized for doing vector math. Both ray tracing and surround sound use a lot of vector math. AIUI the limiting factor is that using RT cores for real time ray tracing already has a significant performance impact so adding surround sound processing to the RT cores isn't really worth it yet.

    It doesn't have to be a ray traced game though. Imagine a VR game using RT cores for better directional sound. That would be kind of rad.

    "Most of Nvidia’s current plans for the Tensor cores revolve around neural graphics. However, the company is also researching other applications of deep learning on desktop cards. Intelligent enemies, for instance, would completely change the way gamers approach boss fights. Speech synthesis, voice recognition, material/art enhancement, cheat detection, and character animation are all areas where AI is already in use, or where Nvidia sees potential."  From a Tom's Hardware article covering Turing's launch. There are a variety of things they could do.

  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118

    I've done the new benchmark!

    In Daz 4.12.0.86 or something like that:

    • My 2060: 3,750 iterations/second
    • 2060 Super: 4,444
    • 2070: 4,560
    • 2080: 5,230
    • 2070 Super: 6,202
    • 2080 Super: 6,358

    Basically, the 2070 Super is the best buy at the moment for Iray rendering.
    It should be 65% faster than my 2060, and 40% faster than a 2060 Super.

    Current prices here:

    • 2060 Super: 446,52€
    • 2070 Super: 596,99€

    So +34% in price for +40% in Iray performance. I think it may be worth it, but this is not a good month to buy GPUs!

     

  • kenshaw011267kenshaw011267 Posts: 3,805

    Wait till after Xmas at least. Sales are far more likely then.

  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118

    In the end, I found a RTX 2070 Super from MSI at 530€ and I ordered it!

    Let's see if it will achieve those 6,2 iterations/second in my system! :)

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,839
    LenioTG said:

    In the end, I found a RTX 2070 Super from MSI at 530€ and I ordered it!

    Let's see if it will achieve those 6,2 iterations/second in my system! :)

    what is the link for the "new" benchmark? I have an MSI 2070 Super myself. It would be interesting to see the results

     

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    daveso said:
    LenioTG said:

    In the end, I found a RTX 2070 Super from MSI at 530€ and I ordered it!

    Let's see if it will achieve those 6,2 iterations/second in my system! :)

    what is the link for the "new" benchmark? I have an MSI 2070 Super myself. It would be interesting to see the results

     

    Its the one linked in my signature.
  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118
    daveso said:
    LenioTG said:

    In the end, I found a RTX 2070 Super from MSI at 530€ and I ordered it!

    Let's see if it will achieve those 6,2 iterations/second in my system! :)

    what is the link for the "new" benchmark? I have an MSI 2070 Super myself. It would be interesting to see the results

     

    As outrider said, it's this one: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking/p1

    Cool, I'd like to know the result :D

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,839

    I'm not sure of all the readings, or where to get them, but , if I did it right, 
    1800 iteration /. 5,min.  23 second  Total Rendering Time, I get 5.57. I dont see anything called Device Render Time in the log.  .. not sure what any of it means, and no idea what the second part, loading time, comes from.
    I'm also not sure if I have DS set up as far as optimum from my card, or even if the card is set up correctly. I'm not into all the tweaking. I usually hit render and go for it.  

  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118
    daveso said:

    I'm not sure of all the readings, or where to get them, but , if I did it right, 
    1800 iteration /. 5,min.  23 second  Total Rendering Time, I get 5.57. I dont see anything called Device Render Time in the log.  .. not sure what any of it means, and no idea what the second part, loading time, comes from.
    I'm also not sure if I have DS set up as far as optimum from my card, or even if the card is set up correctly. I'm not into all the tweaking. I usually hit render and go for it.  

    I wasn't able to find that part either.

    Apparently you should close Daz immediately after the render.

    It's still an impressive result!

    Thanks for taking the benchmark :)

  • LenioTGLenioTG Posts: 2,118
    edited December 2019

    So I finally got that RTX 2070 SUPER.

    It's an MSI Ventus model.
    If you're interested, it's mostly plastic outside (even the backplate), but it's pretty big and heavy, so I guess it has a nice cooling.
    During rendering it goes up to 80°C (keep in mind that I have a small crowded case), and the fans can get pretty loud. They don't look top-quality to me.
    But in idle it's pretty silent.

    I'm testing it out.
    The expected performance gain should be around 65%.

    I've used an actual render from my current comic:

    • The 2060 did 200 iterations in the first 5 minutes.
    • The 2070 SUPER did 340 iterations in the same amount of time (+70%).

    I've also used the benchmark thread, and there I got 5,82 iterations/second, versus those 3,75 that I used to get with the RTX 2060.
    According to that, it's a 55% performance gain.

    I hope someone will find this data helpful.

    Thank you all for the help.

    Post edited by LenioTG on
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