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Beautiful Payback ....

Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163
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https://gizmodo.com/i-want-that-on-a-t-shirt-1840273177

 

to sum up... certain companies use Bots to trawl artsites for trigger phrases like I'd love that on a shirt    (attempt to mask so this don't end up on a shirt LOL) then Bingo. it's offered on a shirt.. and the artist gets bupka's... 

 

so.. someone decided to weaponise the Bots against the owners :D 

read the article to see LOL

Comments

  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163

    on a serious note, please read the article and avoid the triggers if you can. this is a wholesale theft operation that it seems stores like Amazon are unable/unwilling to stop.

  • SBibbSBibb Posts: 600

    Wow. Somehoe I'm not surprised, but I didn't know that was a thing. o.o

    Genius on the part of the people who decided to test that system, though.

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,319

    That's hilarious!
    Love it.
    I think I know how I'm going to spend my weekend now.

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    Artists tend not to be techie savvy. I've seen countless times and even here people will post their final image instead of reducing it to 2" x 3" and 72 DPI for online viewing. The image then is too small and will distort when expanding to fit in a 12" x 14" space.
  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163
    edited December 2019

    except that won't stop the bots.. it'll just expand the image and use it anyway.... no humans are checking what art's being stolen so they don't care about quality at all.

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  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    They can steal the thumbnail but they can't print a decent quality t-shirt. Bots don't put a t-shirt in a shipping box and can see they printed garbage.
  • Khai-J-BachKhai-J-Bach Posts: 163

    except they are not making a decent shirt.. thats where your making the mistake.

    they are printing *anything* the bots tag. even small drawings or just text. quality is not an issue with this at all.

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    Yeah... but it's the buyer who gets ripped off when they receive garbage. At least your artwork is safe.
  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Also, with the Disney stuff, maybe the heavy hitting Disney lawyers can be sicced on 'em.

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,103

    this lady doing diamond crafts learnt the hard way about how cheap overseas based  companies are ripping off artists work without permission.

    people on facebook in the 3D community have described their horror at seeing their renders on quilt covers and other manchester too on various sites

    I want to name some but better not on this forum, they are all well known cheap internet order sites

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275

    Regardless, I suspect this "payback" will be short lived. Once the pirates realize what is happening they will start reviewing what they're stealing. Just don't post print quality images on the internet and it limits what the thieves can do.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    I'd love that on a shirt   "CarrArtist"

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133

    Thanks for that link. Truly scary. People make fun of me because I use visible watermarks so much but it seems like the only defense. Unfortunately you can't use them on Pixels or Fine Art America or sites where you have to upload and show the original file. 

     

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,027
    edited December 2019
    mwokee said:

    Regardless, I suspect this "payback" will be short lived. Once the pirates realize what is happening they will start reviewing what they're stealing. Just don't post print quality images on the internet and it limits what the thieves can do.

    A lot of the stuff getting stolen is art made by people who would never post (or probably even create) an image at 300dpi. Some people are having their livelihoods impacted because they want to sell shirts of their own work, but many others have no interest in selling products and are just horrified that art they can barely get likes on is apparently good enough to steal and wear as long as someone else can make money off of it. And posting images at low quality makes it even harder to gain an audience in the first place, while unfortunately doing nothing to deter serious merch-making thieves who design for legit companies and not t-shirt mills (they often just trace the image, or use it as a basis for a different design). 

    Mostly it's heartening to see people supporting artists against thieves, since the response to saying your work got stolen by merch producers or repost aggregators can sometimes be pretty harsh, with a lot of "You should be grateful people are seeing it" comments. My friends have had their beautiful fanart reposted by image account runners who painstakingingly edit their signatures and watermarks out while having something like "pics not mine, credit to creator" in their bio. I've only had my work reposted once by a person who didn't know any better, so I hesitate to watermark because I've seen artists with small audiences get harassed for thinking anyone would bother to steal their work, as though it's a compliment. This kind of thing is only lucrative because lots of people don't want to think about where art comes from, or pay the original creator a fair price for it. 

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  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,582

    Also, the idea that 'all this means is the pirates will just review what they steal' makes this meaningless is just wrong. It forces them to do the work of manually weeding out what their bots pick up instead of letting things run on automatic. These people are lazy, making them work is a step toward fixing things even if it isn't a perfect solution. 

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    TesseractSpace said:

    Also, the idea that 'all this means is the pirates will just review what they steal' makes this meaningless is just wrong. It forces them to do the work of manually weeding out what their bots pick up instead of letting things run on automatic. These people are lazy, making them work is a step toward fixing things even if it isn't a perfect solution. 

    You're assuming a handful of people putting out spoof images is really going to change things. The images still get stolen one way or another and the best deterrent that YOU as an individual can do is to avoid posting print quality images on the internet. It's great some artists have found a way to identify the issue but the message here is to not leave your keys in the car in the first place!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,098

    Sadly the thread is getting beyond the limits of the toS so it has been trimmed and locked.

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