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Congrats. You will not be disapointed. The 2070 Super is a beast. (At least the one in my gaming rig is.)
that is where water cooling comes in, the thermaltake 280mm, will be dead silent when the CPU isn't under load, unlike all the corsair all in one cooler's. the external CPU temp what most people will see is 60c, while CPU (Tctl/Tdie) will be 120c
the sensor's probably have a bug in anyway, when the CPU is 0c the CPU (Tctl/Tdie) will be -92c https://postimg.cc/ppj7cg6w
Or you could be making stuff up. The thermal limit on Ryzen is 95C at Tdie. Exceed that by even 0.1C and the CPU will throttle down until it is well under 95.
The minimum reported on that image is not at all unusual. You get all kinds of weird readings from motherboard sensors when the system is just starting up, as that clearly was.
I hear water swirls the opposite way down the drain when you're Down Under. Is that true?
LOL!
There is an EXCELLENT reason to go with water cooling. It's quiet. Vewy, vewy, Quiet. Fan noise is very fatiguing over time. Water systems do have fans, yes, but they're STILL quieter.
Whuh? It is very well known that a pump is far louder than a properly working PC fan meant for consumer use, the 80mm's used in servers sound like jet engines but no one uses those outside servers.
I've built custom loops several times. You can put really serious OC's on a system with that but quiet? Not at all. The pump makes noise and the fans make noise (and will make more noise as they ramp up as the loop heats up).
the main thing for me ... will it render a lot faster than my current system that has no nvidia GPU at all. will the system work. If so, I'm a happy man.
once everything under control, it might be time for tweaking, but I've never OC anything.
With the exception of the old 300 Mhz Celeron (which could be to overclocked to 450 Mhz), I've never found overclocking to be that usefull. My computers tend to be heat monsters anyway, so I tend towards stability.
Don't bother to overclock the CPU or GPU, the gains will be minimal. However as I've said before setting the RAM to run at its rated speed is not overclocking the RAM. There is a frankly dumb rule that all DDR4 run by default at 2133Mhz rather than its rated speed so it has to be set to its rated speed, and timings, using the XMP profile which is usually in the overclocking section of the UEFI control panel.
The reason this matters is that Ryzen chips really take a very significant performance hit running with slow RAM. Your R7 3800 will greatly benefit from getting that 3000Mhz RAM actually running at that speed.
i will for sure look into that. no sense in buying faster ram if its not running at that speed. the MB is capable of handling it, as well as the CPU.
Overclock not recommended. OC performance is almost invisible, sometimes it may work a milisecond faster but it can affect stability.
Yep. One of the first things I checked on my first trip down under. Unless, that is, the device is specifically designed to make it flow in another direction, as some toilets are.
I knew it!
Whuh yourself!
I never hear my CPU pump or the double-fans on both sides of the radiator. I do, however, hear my GPU fans. G'wan, tell me I can't hear my fans, I dare ya!
Just for the lovely SILENCE, I would love to build a water loop.
I never said I overclock. But you might not have realized this, so I'll say it here:
I never overclock. I buy up, run it forever, and don't overclock. That's like putting ketchup on a wonderful steak. Everybody knows the ketchup is for the baked potato! Or my morning scrambled eggs.
Then you're wasting a huge amount of money. If you can't hear a AIO pump and 4 static pressure fans you won't hear the Dark Rock 4 and it will be half the price, or less than a 240mm AIO plus 2 more SP fans.
Maybe, maybe not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMZjssrAlk
I think that may be a reference to a Simpson's episode. Flsuhing water is moving to fast for the coriolis effect to determine the direction of rotation of the water.
Just received new box ... excitement abounds.
. well, I need to hook it up first. just got it out of the box and inspecting. Super clean assembly. I never built one looking so good inside. Case is heavy duty. Nothing super special but low end InWin 101 ..retails about $70. Functional. its bigger than i thought it would be though, as a mid tower. Solid.
.the video card, which for whatever reason no one at Cyberpower PC could identify for me, the exact model, is a MSI RTX 2070 SUPER™ VENTUS OC. Supposedly one of the least expensive Super 2070 cards, but its not really cheap at $500. A lot of instant ship packages from Cyberpower use no name cards and its a crapshoot what you will get. This one was listed as an MSI RTX 2070 Super but not an actual model. This is the OC version as well.
I'm near too excited to turn it on
3 fans ... not surewhich is blowing which way, but LED RGB fanns plus a Coolermaster Liquid cooler ... they list it as Cyberpower cooler on sales slip, but the labeling is coolermaster..I'm thinking coolermaster makes this for Cyberpower, as the part on the CPU indeed has the Cyberpower logo ... Why are there two fans on the cooler though, the radiator sandwiched between the two, ... the one with the cooler and another attached on the inner portion, which is one of the 3 fans supplied with the build. Not sure about that.
OK ... soon we will see. Can't wait to render some hair
The 2 fans on the radiator are push and pull. The idea is to increase airflow across the radiator fins and therefore increase cooling. That should provide decent exhaust through the rear.
I'm not a fan of top mounted PSU's but they're fine if I don't have to assemble the rig.
Good luck and enjoy it.
I am excited for you!! now lets see that first badass render from it!!
i've done 5 so far ..but deleted them ... a figure, and Stonemason Urban 5 and 6. - just to see whats up. one single G8 figure with clothes and hair ..less then 1 minute. Stonemasan Urban 5 took longer, stopped it at 70% it was only a few minutes ... forgot already
BUT ... I will do another in a bit. Have to downooad all my content, which should take a few days ... Only g8 stuff right now though
the fans are annoying for sure. my older system was quiet quiet, near silent. these guys speed up and down all the time depending on what is going on.
wonder what would happen if I typed shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh , or maybe QUIET !!! would be better.
DIM download complete so lets put some character on the table with a scene.
Sounds like the fan curve is too aggressive. You can adjust the fan speeds and how they ramp up and down in the UEFI.
thanks...I haven't looked at anything really. too eager to take it for a ride
I think there may be a few settings not right. Noticed some lag typing once in awhile, even whewn nothing is rendering. maybe i have the keyboard plugged into the wrong usb port..shouldnt matte rthough
There is a bug in a recent release of Windows 10 that causes Cortana to pretty much take over the entire system for a few seconds every once in a while. Might be running into that. Running Windows Update might fix that. It shouldn't matter which USB port your keyboard is plugged into.
As for the dual fans of the water cooler, that's so you can run the fans slower and still get the proper airflow. The primary source of fan noise is probably the video cards.
ok ... just a couple of test renderings ... near full body 50 seconds. Closeup 1:50.
Scene ..Urban 5, mira, ... just a quick one setting up .. there are 4 lights as well. 13:05.
need to find the correct settings to use. i'm not sure that my system is even optimized, let alone what I'm doing in DS.
cloth simulation ..wow. i'm in heaven
it is all in the image from HWInfo which is at https://postimg.cc/ppj7cg6w
silicon can handle 1000c given enough cooling, the 95c thermal limit is the TDP for the included air heatsink, while a 280mm water cooled all in one heatsink has a TDP of around 150c or so the big youtube channel's like to say
No. 95C will always cause the CPU to down clock. Always. AMD builds it right into the Ryzen chips and supporting chipsets. You're confusing the maximum wattage the included cooler can handle which is 95W with the CPU's thermal limit which is 95C. You can find copious documentation of each.
That's a harsh word, "wasting". Can wasting be in the eye (or in my case, the ear) of the beholder?
Water is quieter, especially if the water system (and especially the radiator) has been properly sized to manage the expected heat at the expected load. Maybe the pump makes noise. But being under my desk, it's quiet enough, even with a mostly "open" computer enclosure. The GPUs have heatsinks and fans because I'm too lazy to build a water loop for them. During gaming and rendering, those GPUs can ramp up a lot and the noise, even though it's kind of a "white noise", is rather fatiguiging over even a short period of time.
It's not so much that I "hear" the fans. It's more like I get tired faster. So I know that there's an impact. Maybe that doesn't happen to you. If so, then spending money would be a waste.
Luckily, my music and audio software doesn't make use of GPUs to any great extent. So those GPU fans stay slow during recording. But I have put the CPU on water, and it's been worth it. That's what it is for this beholder's ear.
I build computers both for my day job and as a side gig. I've built quiet PC's many times. You can get a pretty basic sound meter app for your phone or get an actual device, more accurate but why?, The results would still be the same. Water cooled systems have to be louder than an air cooled system, assuming the same number of fans, because the pump is in the system and SP fans make more noise than airflow ones.
You may be reacting to the frequency of noise produced by the fans, unlikely tbh as many other things in most people's environment produces that same frequency range, or you could have had cheap fans in the past that did make some sort of high frequency noise (the sort people generally find most intrusive). However the real serious experts on quiet PC's, Be Quiet primarily but lots of other folks, agree that air cooling can be quieter.