I'm on a content hunt. Sawdust on floor.
JOdel
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Okay, I'm building an illustration, and it's set in the wild West. For verisimilitude I would like to have the sawdust on the salloon floor which I'm pretty sure was typical at that time. (I know that convention continued into the 20th century in various places like deli's and suchlike, because I've been in a couple that had it.)
I can create a plane primitive, or do a geoshell of the floor and apply a textrure for the sawdust. But I do not know whether there any plane primitives out there which would be particularly good for this purpose.
I'm working in 3DL, so it doesn't matter it they are old.
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Well 3Delight has the micro displacement so a very fine noise brick in it should do it
There was an old DM pack that had a plane that added dust to the floor. Could that work for you? Dusty Memories by DM if I'm not mistaken.
I've got that one. I'll check it. Right now I'm making an attempt with a snow cube (one of Flink's from Rendo). Flattening it down to the hight of a sheet, giving it displacement and pulling colors from the floor it's sitting on. It looks about right in the viewport, but I'll see what a spot render shows me.
ETA: Yup, with the flattened snow and a lot of surfact tweaking, that does seem to give pretty much the impression I was after. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
I recommend combining a DAZ Primitive Plane with cutout opacity maps & Will Timmins WTP3 sand/beach shader or another dirt shader in that set.
Although I'm wonder where the information about scattering sawdust on the floor comes from as saw dust needs to be kept clean so must be replaced and surely isn't cheap. Lots of trees are fell to produce it. I think though that used to be done in some places of the deep south to stop tracking of mud directly on floors though. I think places where logging was also a major economic activity. I've seen modern bar type crab shacks in the deep south scatter peanut hulls and some saw dust on the floor but I think that was just a marketing gimmick.
In the early 1970's as a brat I can remember sawdust on the floor in the butcher's we went to. It was always clean, and swept up daily. Think it was there to soak up any liquid that dribbled on the floor. The same butcher's used a huge deeply sculpted endgrain beech chopping block that had gutters that drained onto the floor. Every piece of meat was chopped to size on that block from a hunk of meat displayed in the window. No refrigeration there - they believed in selling meat exactly 13 days from slaughter, and hung all the meat in their own hanging room out back. The butcher always thought 14 days 'ripening' after slaughter made the meat taste perfect.
Sawdust went the same way as parrafin (kerosene) heaters in shops. I can still remember the smell of the shoe shop we went to that used a parrafin heater. I looked on Google Streetview last year, and all the shops I can remember have gone.
Sawdust can be essentially free; a natural byproduct of woodworking, It's amazing how much sawdust is generated by simple woodworking (planing boards and notching them for building houses, fences, or sidewalks, for example). Of course, even easier if there is someone with a lumber mill nearby. If you were in a location without many trees, you probably didn't use it as much. Though, I live in the prairies and when I moved here as a child, the buildings were all made of wood, and the sidewalks, too.
In New York sawdust dealers of the 1880s made daily rounds selling 25-cent barrels to restaurants, saloons, and butcher shops (where sawdust collected blood). https://restaurant-ingthroughhistory.com/2018/05/20/sawdust-on-the-floor/
Phillipe's downtown (one of Los Angeles's older businesses. A form of a deli. Shares with Cole's the claim of having invented the French dip sandwich in 1908) still had sawdust on the floor into the '70s. I'm not sure that it doesn't still have it now. I haven't been there in a while.
I suspect it was a logical progression from the medieval practice of strewing rushes on the floor to keep spills more or less contained. It also helped muffle noise and was cheaper than a carpet (which would as likely have been humg on the wall as spread out onn the floor).
Oh, wow! That is cool information! 25 cents a barrel. So they did sell it. I was thinking there was no way businesses had that available unless somebody was doing something like that still it's cool to see actual history.
I guess I am to used to the modern times as I've only seen those crab shacks and those where a new faddish chain. I did have both sets of grandparents and a few aunts & uncles with coal cook stoves and outhouses though. And recently a coworker claimed he was living with his wife in a house with dirt floors which surprised me as I have had only visited yards with dirt yards but not houses with dirt floors.