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  • vadimtvadimt Posts: 33

    I am trying to figure out what "$100 worth of Featured Related Items FREE" means. I did get $20 with 4 add-on items, I've got 30% discount, and 10% from coupon - but where are the $100?

  • vadimt said:

    I am trying to figure out what "$100 worth of Featured Related Items FREE" means. I did get $20 with 4 add-on items, I've got 30% discount, and 10% from coupon - but where are the $100?

    You get $20 from each of the 5 different categories. 

  • vadimtvadimt Posts: 33
    vadimt said:

    I am trying to figure out what "$100 worth of Featured Related Items FREE" means. I did get $20 with 4 add-on items, I've got 30% discount, and 10% from coupon - but where are the $100?

    You get $20 from each of the 5 different categories. 

    Thanks. 

  • Alley RatAlley Rat Posts: 405

    Yep, nothing. It's fine. I have plenty of great characters for G8M already.

    BeeMKay said:

    No purple banner = pass for me, but I did pick up Rafael.

     

    Have you checked your messages? There's sometimes one even without the purple banner...

     

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,844

    Dforceable leather chaps is an odd artistic choice. Leather is pretty rigid and doesn’t hang like that.

    Was thinking the same thing! i am always on the lookout for good western wear, but that poncho outfit just ain't cutting it for me.

    I think Diego looks pretty good, might have to pick him up even though I didn't get any banners, but that's nothing new, LOL

    What I really find odd is every time there is a character that can be sterotyped in any way released, there is always a vocal minority screaming about stereotypes and how DAZ and the PAs should be more sensitive to this perceived issue and yet nothing for Diego when his outfits are clearly stereotipical (I live in TX and see it daily!), LOL I had my popcorn all ready to read the comments, oh well.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,423
    nemesis10 said:
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    Love the Diego's shape and I'm glad to know that his tattoos are separate.  I love that Jepe finally jumped back into making male characters.  So picked up Jepe's Roderick  along with the Starter Bundle and finally picked up Gabriela since her base was on sale and one character skin pack for her.  My finished cart was ... dig this... $111.11 LOL 

     

    How does Roderick look with Diego dialed out? I'm not sure I can afford $50+ for a new character right now, but I want to encourage Jepe at least.

    So sorry, not had the time to DIM and install yet.  Busy day!  

    a rather incomplete render but Rodrigo without Diego is taller, thinner, and slightly Toon-like in the face:

    Cool, thank you!
  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275

    Unbelievable sale but you still have to spend money to get the deals. How much do I want to spend on stuff that I'd like to have not really need? Will have to think about it but I do appreciate the offer.

    I did take advantage of some of the other coupons. Got the Sanjay 8 Starter Bundle for free so thank you for that. I suppose it's thank you for the money I've spent to date. :-)

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2019

    What I really find odd is every time there is a character that can be sterotyped in any  way released, there is always a vocal minority screaming about stereotypes and how DAZ and the PAs should be more sensitive to this perceived issue and yet nothing for Diego when his outfits are clearly stereotipical (I live in TX and see it daily!), LOL I had my popcorn all ready to read the comments, oh well.

    Well, did it really need to be said? wink I mean a fair amount of clothing in this bundle embraced pretty much every stereotype possible clothing-wise.

    I predicted a while ago, we'd see a pancho, and a bullfighter and I was not wrong.

    I do like the Aloha Outfit and the Caballero outfit though. They seem pretty decent. My issue with stereotyped outfits and clothing is that they are fairly limited in the amount of use I'm going to get from them. This is why I'd trade them in for a normal underwear pack or a jeans and shirt outfit no matter how dull and boring because the times I will use a latin dancer, or a bulfighter are next to zero.

    Unfortunately, I don't make those choices, sadly.

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  • He's cool, I like the sculpts of all the characters, especially Diego himself. But I'm with Serene Night on this one, not gonna use his outfits all to much, except the Aloha and Caballero ones. It's all good though, I thought he was definitly worth picking up. Especially since now Gabi has her man to go out on dates with.

    Look forward to playing around with him and the other characters when I get more time.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,974
    edited August 2019

    Diego 8, out of the box. His face and feet are not really that dark though - Vignette was turned up a bit too high and I didn't realize it until the render was done. Sorry. 

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  • Just the base Diego 8 morph. Cormac beard, the Lightweight Hair Set for the body hairs. Caballero outfit stuff.

    He's a good lookin' fellah!

    There was more to this render, but I cropped it to avoid showing the pant's ability to smuggle bananas when you add Smoothing Iterations.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2019

    Here is Gabor. I think so far, I like him the best of the Pro Bundle.

    I do think the Diego characters I've thus looked at so far, have too overly shaped brows. They also seem rather short. I would prefer less sculpted and shaped eyebrows.

     

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited August 2019

    Diego himself has a generic bod, but a nice facial sculpt. . I think his skin is the best part of this figure. Sadly, I do not have HD. It was too expensive. I think this is a worthwhile purchase, but I would've liked less arched brows. We had that with Elios already.

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  • gsil247gsil247 Posts: 231

    I wanted some gangster homeboy stuff, and the  outfit in this bundle gave me that. I had to pick up the textures for red and blue to make him a crip or blood. The hood in me came out. Thank you Daz

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,744

    What I really find odd is every time there is a character that can be sterotyped in any  way released, there is always a vocal minority screaming about stereotypes and how DAZ and the PAs should be more sensitive to this perceived issue and yet nothing for Diego when his outfits are clearly stereotipical (I live in TX and see it daily!), LOL I had my popcorn all ready to read the comments, oh well.

    Well, did it really need to be said? wink I mean a fair amount of clothing in this bundle embraced pretty much every stereotype possible clothing-wise.

    I predicted a while ago, we'd see a pancho, and a bullfighter and I was not wrong.

    I do like the Aloha Outfit and the Caballero outfit though. They seem pretty decent. My issue with stereotyped outfits and clothing is that they are fairly limited in the amount of use I'm going to get from them. This is why I'd trade them in for a normal underwear pack or a jeans and shirt outfit no matter how dull and boring because the times I will use a latin dancer, or a bulfighter are next to zero.

    Unfortunately, I don't make those choices, sadly.

    Well I can see complaints on bull fighters given what's done to the bulls (still going to buy it but not to use or even simulate a real bull fight) but complaints on pancho clothing styles? Why? Because they are practical and cool clothing suited for the environment they were designed for? A lot of these complainers give me the impression unless the target of the complaint changes to be just like the complainer then the complainer is telling the world there is some sort of moral deficit regarding the target of their complaint. And if the person wearing the poncho does not want to were International designer clothing manufactured in 3rd world sweat shops? Then what?

    People that make those sorts of complaints needs to consider music marching bands wearing essentially military clothing styles of their past defenders and all other sorts of clothing, hair, and makeup styles that have been and are appropriated as adoption of admiration and respect for those people in the past that used those styles, rather than the bad motives that keep being suggested.

     

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I didn’t mention the bullfighter outfit but have elsewhere which is why I don’t have use for it.  It looks well designed however.

    For me I think of usability foremost.

    But I also avoid using things which may be too cliche or have sort of cultural stereotypes.

    my preference is for a mix of things, especially in pro bundles since I usually buy them because the price for it is cheaper than buying ala carte. 

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,497
    edited August 2019

    A few things about stereotypes. As a woman whose roots are here in the US, Mexico and the Basque region of Spain, I hope people understand that a flamenco outfit or poncho is not a stereotype. These are very honorable parts of our culture. Men and women both study hard to master the art of flamenco. It's a very powerful and beautiful form of dance. The poncho, or serape, is not the stereotype. This is typical clothing in certain regions of and periods of history for Mexico. The matador is very revered in Mexico. My grandfather adored them. I could not share this love with my grandfather because it hurt me to see what happened to the bull. But it is not a stereotype.

    The stereotypes come when people are depicted as lazy, conniving, dirty and then tie them to a demeaning image that may utilize clothing that a particular people may be known for using. These are things that can hurtful as they are inaccurate.

    I hope to see many wonderful images from everyone.

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  • timsw6timsw6 Posts: 39
    edited August 2019

    I'm finding Diago 8's skin is one of better and more 'realistic' to tweek/render (with a little help from altern8 shaders) as its free of the orange tones most of the other males have.  Edward 8  is without question my favourite of male gen8 for realism but Diago now a close second. So good work Daz.

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  • almahiedraalmahiedra Posts: 1,366

    A few things about stereotypes. As a woman whose roots are here in the US, Mexico and the Basque region of Spain, I hope people understand that a flamenco outfit or poncho is not a stereotype. These are very honorable parts of our culture. Men and women both study hard to master the art of flamenco. It's a very powerful and beautiful form of dance. The poncho, or serape, is not the stereotype. This is typical clothing in certain regions of and periods of history for Mexico. The matador is very revered in Mexico. My grandfather adored them. I could not share this love with my grandfather because it hurt me to see what happened to the bull. But it is not a stereotype.

    The stereotypes come when people are depicted as lazy, conniving, dirty and then tie them to a demeaning image that may utilize clothing that a particular people may be known for using. These are things that can hurtful as they are inaccurate.

    I hope to see many wonderful images from everyone.

    ​ +1yes

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548
    edited August 2019

    Traditional bullfighter outfits are closely related to the older pre-Beau Brummell forms of male formal wear. If you need to dress a vaguely swashbuckley guy from the "Powder and Patch" era in Europe or the "Zorro" era in Latin America*, the new bullfighter outfit (minus the hat and shoulderpads) is a good starting point, no matter how you feel about bullfighting proper. This is a VERY underrepresented timeframe in men's wear: I can count the pre-existing options from the M3 era to the Genesis 2 era (that I know of) on the fingers of one hand.

     

    *Please note that these are pop culture references to the eras in question; Powder and Patch was an early novel by Georgette Heyer, set in the Georgian era in England, and I would guess that most people on this thread know about Zorro.

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,344

    A few things about stereotypes. As a woman whose roots are here in the US, Mexico and the Basque region of Spain, I hope people understand that a flamenco outfit or poncho is not a stereotype. These are very honorable parts of our culture. Men and women both study hard to master the art of flamenco. It's a very powerful and beautiful form of dance. The poncho, or serape, is not the stereotype. This is typical clothing in certain regions of and periods of history for Mexico. The matador is very revered in Mexico. My grandfather adored them. I could not share this love with my grandfather because it hurt me to see what happened to the bull. But it is not a stereotype.

    The stereotypes come when people are depicted as lazy, conniving, dirty and then tie them to a demeaning image that may utilize clothing that a particular people may be known for using. These are things that can hurtful as they are inaccurate.

    I hope to see many wonderful images from everyone.

    yes heart yes

  • I don't know about "stereotype"... but we couldn't get a proper or maybe even a loud AF sombrero out of this package? A soccer jersey might've been cool, also. The 1998 jerseys that Mexico had for the World Cup? Maybe the best national side jersey ever.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,260

    I don't know about "stereotype"... but we couldn't get a proper or maybe even a loud AF sombrero out of this package? A soccer jersey might've been cool, also. The 1998 jerseys that Mexico had for the World Cup? Maybe the best national side jersey ever.

    Here is a freebie one: http://www.sharecg.com/v/75807/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Ole-for-Genesis

  • I don't know about "stereotype"... but we couldn't get a proper or maybe even a loud AF sombrero out of this package? A soccer jersey might've been cool, also. The 1998 jerseys that Mexico had for the World Cup? Maybe the best national side jersey ever.

    Here is a freebie one: http://www.sharecg.com/v/75807/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Ole-for-Genesis

    Thanks... downloaded it.

    If I can get dForce to work again (it's ALL f-d up after claiming that I needed to reload my OpenCL device info), maybe I'll use that Sombrero with the Poncho outfit.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,327

    I don't know about "stereotype"... but we couldn't get a proper or maybe even a loud AF sombrero out of this package? A soccer jersey might've been cool, also. The 1998 jerseys that Mexico had for the World Cup? Maybe the best national side jersey ever.

    Here is a freebie one: http://www.sharecg.com/v/75807/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Ole-for-Genesis

    My thanks also. I downloaded it as well.

    Growing up in New Mexico and California, there are many aspects of Mexican culture that I just accept as part of my life, and don't realize that as an 'Anglo' it is not something that someone from the East Coast has no concept of. But don't ask me to speak Spanish, I have a speech impediment and mess it up. But the little I know, helped me when I had a layover in Madrid, Spain, when I was flying home for my mother's funeral. The people of Spain were so kind.

    Mary

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,087

    I’m learning Spanish (I have taken some classes but not fluent). My mom is Puerto Rican with Spanish and a little Basque heritage.

    And I can’t freakin roll my Rs to save my life. My mom is very surprised. ‘All you have to do is push your tongue (etc)’

    ”I KNOW, ma!”

     

    bah.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,601

    It's worth keeping in mind that the release of an "ethnic" character is a good excuse for artists to make costumes that they might not otherwise make. 

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited August 2019

    ****(Starts with F, ends with **k... firetruck!) I couldn't get dForce to work on anything right now, so I went with soccer.

    Definitely a nice base model. Excellent skin, good details. Again, this is Diego 8. Normal maps on, Medium translucency.

    Since I don't have a "real" soccer jersey for G8M, this is the rugby jersey from the Kimo 7 set. I used the Bump map as the Diffuse texture and colored it entirely green (because Mexico).

    The Genesis sombrero as noted above. I created a "Bump map" with the Wicker texture, converting it to black & white.

    If you've seen team Mexico fans, this isn't stereotyping. If anything, that sombrero is kind of small.

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  • JonnyRayJonnyRay Posts: 1,744

    Although I'm white as can be (see profile pic cool), my ex-wife is Venezuelan and our daughter definitely identifies as Latina. She's excited to work with me on some rendors of Diego and Gaby dancing together. laugh

    For our purposes, the outfits included in both of their new releases were perfect.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,327

    My time has been limited and I barely was able to finish renders of Diego 8 and Diego 8 HD yesterday afternoon. I love the guy! The skin looked fantastic when he showed up in my viewport, but while I am showing my renders, I am not satisfied with the light and how the skin came out. Also, the prop chest tattoo embedded into the right pectoral muscle, so I had to delete it and selete a Layered one for the neck. Hence the runner, for Diego 8, I wanted to show off the two tats I put on him. (I am not a big tattoo user, but the designs are lovely.)

    For Diego 8 HD, I wanted a close-up and to reflect some possible different DNA, ie Irish mixed with Mexican into the guy. And with the heavy weather we had in Colorado the past few days, him on a ranch, evaluating the sky. 

    Mary

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