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Too Much Glossy Shine

RS-SRS-S Posts: 72
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Hey All,

Back again, hoping for some pointers.

Trying to dial back the reflective gloss/shine in eyes and teeth (especially teeth). Funny, but for the longest time couldn't get any reflected light, now keep getting way too much. (see image)

**For the teeth I have set everything in Surfaces that had the word "glossy" in it to zero. Didn't seem to do much.  What other settings should I be looking at? Transluscentcy(sp?) maybe?  Changing the color/tint doesn't help.

**For the eye reflection I usually just "burn" it in editing, which works fine, but it would be nice if there was a way to tone it down so that editing them wasn't necessary.

As usual, any hints, tips, instructions will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

Randall

Comments

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited August 2019

    Glossy weight (determines how much gloss you have on a material).

    Metalicity (would be for metal of course ;))

    Top coat weight (having a top coat is like having a layer of shiny plastic/laquer/glass over something and determines how much top coat there is) 

    Glossy roughness, Top coat roughness both determine how "sharp" the glossiness is - the lower the setting, the sharper the highlight. Conversely, the higher the setting, the dimmer and duller (but larger) the highlight. 

    Dual lobe specular also add's gloss, so the weight would be how much gloss there is.

    In a nutshell: weight equals how much gloss a material has. Roughness equals the amount of shine (dependent on weight), whether sharp or dull.

    Hope you understood all that :P

    Laurie

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited August 2019

    Oh, and for what it's worth, I don't think the eyes are too shiny. Here are some examples of real people in dramatic lighting. Eyes are very reflective. :) Too little shine tends to make eyes look "dead".

    Laurie

    Post edited by AllenArt on
  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,583

    Looks to me that a lot of the light is coming from a bright spot light located behind the camera. You can see it in the eye, and also since there are such deep shadows along the shoulder blades.

    As Laurie says, for this kind of lighting, this is probably not unrealistic. If you really don't like it, then replace the spot light with a mesh light, or set the spot light to be a sphere instead of a single point, and increase its size if needed.

  • RS-SRS-S Posts: 72
    edited August 2019
    AllenArt said:

    Glossy weight (determines how much gloss you have on a material).

    Metalicity (would be for metal of course ;))

    Top coat weight (having a top coat is like having a layer of shiny plastic/laquer/glass over something and determines how much top coat there is) 

    Glossy roughness, Top coat roughness both determine how "sharp" the glossiness is - the lower the setting, the sharper the highlight. Conversely, the higher the setting, the dimmer and duller (but larger) the highlight. 

    Dual lobe specular also add's gloss, so the weight would be how much gloss there is.

    In a nutshell: weight equals how much gloss a material has. Roughness equals the amount of shine (dependent on weight), whether sharp or dull.

    Hope you understood all that :P

    Laurie

    Thank you so much!!! What great information (especially since some is counter-intuitive). The eyes don't bother me as much as the teeth. I've yet to meet anyone with teeth that shiny, no matter how much tooth bleaching they had.(wink)

    Havos said:

    Looks to me that a lot of the light is coming from a bright spot light located behind the camera. You can see it in the eye, and also since there are such deep shadows along the shoulder blades.

    As Laurie says, for this kind of lighting, this is probably not unrealistic. If you really don't like it, then replace the spot light with a mesh light, or set the spot light to be a sphere instead of a single point, and increase its size if needed.

    Thanks Very Much, as well. The lights are usually set as discs or rectangles as I think point lighting throws very hard shadows, but I've never played with spheres, so definitely going to do that. Must confess, haven't any idea what a mesh light is.

    Post edited by RS-S on
  • benniewoodellbenniewoodell Posts: 1,999
    Laurie, thank you so much for the wonderful explaination! I understand this a lot more :) Great question from the OP!
  • RS-SRS-S Posts: 72
    benniewoodell said:
    Laurie, thank you so much for the wonderful explaination! I understand this a lot more :) Great question from the OP!

    Agreed! Clear, straight forward, concise.

    What's an OP?

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,583
    RS-S said:
    benniewoodell said:
    Laurie, thank you so much for the wonderful explaination! I understand this a lot more :) Great question from the OP!

    Agreed! Clear, straight forward, concise.

    What's an OP?

    Original poster, so in this instance, you.

  • RS-SRS-S Posts: 72
    edited August 2019
    Havos said:
    RS-S said:
    benniewoodell said:
    Laurie, thank you so much for the wonderful explaination! I understand this a lot more :) Great question from the OP!

    Agreed! Clear, straight forward, concise.

    What's an OP?

    Original poster, so in this instance, you.

    surpriseLOL, I thought it meant Old Person and took a bit of umbrage. Too funny

    Post edited by RS-S on
  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited August 2019
    RS-S said:
    Havos said:
    RS-S said:
    benniewoodell said:
    Laurie, thank you so much for the wonderful explaination! I understand this a lot more :) Great question from the OP!

    Agreed! Clear, straight forward, concise.

    What's an OP?

    Original poster, so in this instance, you.

    surpriseLOL, I thought it meant Old Person and took a bit of umbrage. Too funny

    If you lived where I live   OP  stands for Chocolate

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • RS-SRS-S Posts: 72
    Chohole said:
    RS-S said:
    Havos said:
    RS-S said:
    benniewoodell said:
    Laurie, thank you so much for the wonderful explaination! I understand this a lot more :) Great question from the OP!

    Agreed! Clear, straight forward, concise.

    What's an OP?

    Original poster, so in this instance, you.

    surpriseLOL, I thought it meant Old Person and took a bit of umbrage. Too funny

    If you lived where I live   OP  stands for Chocolate

    So much Better, I love Chocolate.

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