Store nudity?
mmoch25
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Is there a policy against nudity on this site? I find it strange that there are male & female figures/textures for sale complete with textures for the genetalia, and yet no images of these exist on the product pages, we really should be able to see the complete product before purchase. You don't buy a new car without seeing the interior first, not the best analogy I know, but it makes the point.
Before anyone says i'ts to protect the children, First, I think 3d art as a hobbie is way too expensive for kids, so I doubt there would be many if any on this site. Second it's way too easy to find nudity & porn elsewhere.
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Except that doesn't mean children don't use Studio or look through the store, forums or galleries.
No worries, what is the return policy like then if I was unsatisfied with a purchase?
IIRC the store is PG rated partially due to the companies they use to process payments, many of these companies wont touch a site that shows nudity, even if it is 3D nudity and not real people.
Been a long time but iirc there is a 30 day return policy on this site.
Thanks.
Yes. There is still a 30 day return policy.
And you are also correct about companies that process payments. (I know this from my own experience as a marketing consultant. They don't much like sites that sell tobacco, either.)
So major reason is sponsors, interesting.
By the way, if we talk about artistic nude (as opposite to erotica), it's already very difficult to do it "right" in photography, and it's even more difficult in 3D, imho.
Unlike 20 years ago, nowodays there are more opportunities for low budget enthusiasts. DAZ Studio with base figures is free, and there are plenty of freebies for it out there. Some modelling apps are also free, like Hexagon or Blender. Freeware textures, hdris, etc. etc. on sites like sharecg or this forum's freebie sections. You just need to look harder. Of course it might have less variety comparing to commercial releases in store, and more huge span across legacy figures.
details available here https://helpdaz.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003500163-What-is-Daz3D-s-refund-policy-
I think the answer is more that this is the preference of the store owners. There were speculations that it was a PayPal thing but some mature sites accept PayPal so I think keeping it family friendly is daz3ds decision.
I don’t personally think the store is family friendly at the very least it is pg-13.
But we don't know how their transaction fees compare.
Who says this hobby is too expensive for kids? Kids have money or access to it these days. Look at all the marketing targeted to them.
As i remember, though, i only ever first could recieve my own debet card only when i entered university, so i couldn't make any purchases online before that.
I have to agree. There are ways around things obviously. Remember when we had the other forum that PAs could link to nude promos, even DAZ, but that went away. I try real hard NOT to support any PA at any store that creates characters and will not post nude promos when they can since the skin and those bits are a major part of the product and I need to see what I am purchasing.
The marketing is targeted at them because they want to grab the parents money. I work for a national retail chain and we always target the kids because the parents usually give in to them, LOL
Knowing what I do with DS and 3D, I wouldn't let my child use DS unsupervised, LOL
I doubt most parents would give there kids a credit card, and let them spend up in the store, particularly the age group that shouldn't be looking at nudity. If you want a nice variety of content it is expensive, yes Daz studio is free, but that money is made back by most users many times over. If that wasn't the case they would be selling it instead, yes there is a lot of free content out there, some good but most is a bit meh, if you want quality, that costs money, and quality isn't cheap, especially if you want that variety.
If I remember correctly, a long time ago, there were a few products with nudity. It was without warning which was not good, IIRC because those images are also NSFW (not safe for work) or actually any public viewing.
There are some sites that show the full figure . those sites have adult content warnings like renderosity .The daz teams does nt have adult warning labels so they have a strict policy of no nudes, violence or anything political , state it in the Daz EULA sections 4.0 https://www.daz3d.com/eula
to bad too because a lot of political satire has made some artist famous and they are fun to read.
Children will get stuff with or without a credit card. I had a job at 16 and was workin then. You can buy cards and put money on them, age walls are easy to defeat. It is unrealistic to expect children not to be savvy about this stuff. They come to school with much more technical knowledge than their teachers and parents these days in some cases from a lifetime of internet use.
My 9 year hold holds his hands in front of my screen if one of my people don't have their clothes on. :-D On the rare occasions when we shop for clothes in stores, my daughters call anything scanty 'Daz-wear'. Striking a provocative pose in our house is called 'Dazzing'. Weirdly part of our lives and lexicon... I think it tells me I've been on Daz too much ;-) However, as they remind me with great frequency, I let them watch Deadpool so everything else is PG rated by comparison.
Now we are talking about 14, 15 and 16 yo's, I doubt them seeing a T pose of a nude character, is of any concern, at that age they probably know more about porn hub than any of us here, when I mentioned kids I'm talking about 8 to 10 yo's. I doubt at that age they would be searching the Daz store with a credit card in hand, they'd be buying skins for Fortnite. I'm not talking about turning the gallery or site into Renderotica, I'm just saying it would be nice maybe even expected to be able to see exactly what I intend to buy. Even just a picture of the texture map alone would porbably suffice.
The discussion of kids is perhaps risking getting into forbidden areas. Since we don't know how much, if anything, it has to do with Daz policies can we please drop the subject.
Technically, isn't having any other person - minor, family or not - use your copy of Daz and its content against the user's agreement?
i think no, because otherwise how you gonna be able to use daz material in game dev, not being a "single person" game dev, for exemple i do have a partner in my development then i must pass to him the daz stuffs for him to program the mechanics.
what you can't do is pass to another and that another sell it as if he own the thing, now if you are working on a team is no issues.
DAZ probably needs to clarify this as i was under the impression that each person that acesses a DAZ item has to own the product and have all the licensing. the standard EULA doesn't allow for sharing and since the interactive license is an extension of the standard EULA, I would think that still stands.
fixed some issues in my previous post, but my point was, you can't give to another person to let then sell as if they are the owner, but you can use it on a team let's say you buy the stuffs and made the render then pass to a "partner" to do some "photoshop improviments, like aslong is doing in a team then will be fine.
To be honest I did not think this was allowed.
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well if it not was allowed then the hellblade game from ninja theory(if i'm not wrong) maybe could had problems because they used daz genesis 3 assets into they game.
one thing is you buy the assets (and license) to use in your work even if it's a team, another is buying to "redistribute" to third part" peoples to use into they own works for free using your license, as long it's still part of your work even if a team then no problem.
but i do feel which we are going out of topic with this.
Maybe I'm missing something...DAZ is safe for children, because we don't have nudity in the store.
they have naked 3d characters is a sort of nudity" they just don't have "open" but they do sell the "basic genitalia" to be used, they just don't show it.
Most of the characters are "naked on they base" and many of them do support genitalia or do have "full nudity" naked texture for females, it's just not allowed to post images of it.