ISO North American Squirrels
TSasha Smith
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I am looking for squirrels that can be found in North America such as North Carolina. I want a squirrel that looks could be one that is found in my back yard and I live in North Carolina.
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No, despite its name the European grey squirrel (which is one of the included varieties) is native to North America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_gray_squirrel
The European Red looks reasonably close to the American Red. Maybe if you take the textures for Red and the gray and do some blending?
So I could have gotten that squirrel and used it. What else is available for the polymorph rodent? Anything besides the squirrel and the porcupine?
The rodent polymorph was released with great fanfare and then almost completely ignored. As far as I know, we never got the rat or any other rodent that was mentioned as planned products at that time, except the porcupine. Two years ago this list was posted by the PA. Several were supposedly already in production.
Rodents planned:
Rats and Mice (already under production)
Porcupine (about ready)
Chipmunk
Guinea pig
Hamster
Capybara
Elephant Shrew (under production)
Rabbit (under production)
And a new beaver version
The only squirrel like you describe is the daz squirrel https://www.daz3d.com/daz-squirrel
its old but still does the job okay
this is how he looks in animation
Well, I can't imagine that the demand for a porcupine would come anywhere close to the demand for a rat or mouse. How often has your scene called for a porcupine?
With some tweeks such as X-scaling the head, morph the ears, etc, you can get pretty close.
One of my "source" references outside my bedroom window:
A real quick test with the AM squirrel:
Yes, AM's squirrel is definitely like the native European varieties and not like the American varieties. The differences are minor though the thing that really sets that as non-American is the ear fur when I look at them and not being as chubby cheeked.
I would have more use for a skunk than a porcupine. I could picture my new model of a dachshund meeting a skunk. Right now my story I am working on takes place in North Carolina. I think a skunk would be more likely than a porcupine, but a squirrel is most likely as I see them every day. Wonder if there is one out the window right now.
It is hard to find the edit button with my iPad. I just checked out the window and saw a squirrel without much looking.
Right now I am not feeling like paying about fifteen dollars for a European squirrel when I need a North American Squirrel that looks like the one I just saw. Sorry no pictures since it was too far from the window to photograph and I did not have my iPad ready to do so anyway.
Why is that squirrel so big? I loaded it next to Caryn 8 and they were practically the same size.
You can have all ten million of my squirrels... I’ll even box them up for free... just tell me where to send them.
I do not need real squirrels.
But properly prepared they can be quite tasty.
I suspect the reason why the old DAZ squirrel is so big is the same reason why the MilCat comes in the size of a Newfoundland.
Ugh! That reminds me when I was a kid & my friend's dad prepared squirrel to eat. I was not expecting that. I like squirrels, but simply can't afford to feed them so I buy bird feeders that are squirrel proof except for what the birds drop (which is quite a bit).
There should be a some pose presets and a reduce squirrel size up and down preset with the squirrel at least there is in mine. found in the runtime /Pose/Daz Squirrel/
They would come in handy as a defence against an invasion of zombie balloons.
Zombie balloons? Did I read that right or am I too sleepy?
hmm yeah.. i asked myself exactly the same question "what are the available animals built on the rodent base" as i saw it in today's $2.99 sale. i was about to put it in my cart, as i realized that after all, except for the porcupine i'm not really gonna create a scene with i.e. buy, there's only the squirrel. so... what's with the big projects with way more current rodents like rats, mice, hamster, guinea pigs..? i saw no answer from the PA AM in this thread...
because while it's on sale for only $2.99 - practically thrown at you! - i just happen to be out of store credit, can't reload until 2morrow. and i have to choose between this and another $2.99 product i also want (and might use more often especially if "squirrel" is the only output of this rodent, except for the porcupine)
I'm in the same boat. I'm really tempted to pick up the rodent base, but there are so few options available for it currently.
I thinkj selling a base that wasn't usable by itself was bad marketing idea, espeically when the first two products were some rather niche things that were already available in the store. What was really disapointing is that all the existing rat figures out there (Noggin, Sixius, LRez) are getting really long in the tooth... pun intentional... so a new rat would have probably been much better seller. A new rabbit probably would also have done pretty well as Noggin's is kinda scary. Maybe the introduction of the new hair system will spur AM to at least finish the rat and make it available in a bundled version for those who don't already have the polymorph base.
I bought the base AM rodent today since it was $2.99 but was kind of surprised no fur or anything at all came with it so I guess I'll buy the fur & texture portion of the product next.
AM Squirrel (with Rodent base) is really cute IMO. It's probably as close as we're gonna get here in my lifetime. But he's nice enought.
The problem that I have with all of the current rats, and with the two rabbits mentioned as well, is that they're all sculpted with full coats of fur already on. That makes anything with LAMH or other add-on hair added look way too fat and fluffy for the kind of renders that many people would want to do. My current solution has always been to go back and paint over the fur in post, but it's cheat that really only works well in medum and long shots. AM's system, where you could just dial the rat down to super skinny for a scrawnier, more mangy look while keeping the great interactive light kicks you get with fiber hair, would have been such a huge improvement.