Semi OT Adobe Cloud software question(s)
TSasha Smith
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What does all the Adobe Cloud software do? What is the difference between them?
Also I am trying Adobe Illustrator out at the moment. I found a template for it but the issue is that I need it printed and that important areas of the template are in nonprintable areas. I am trying to figure out how to fix that, but I am not understanding how.
How would I figure out which Adobe Cloud software is best for a particular project? What brought this on is that I want to create nice looking weekly work schedules to put on my fridge each week.
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Let's see:
Adobe Photoshop is the iconic tool for manipulating photos (a line is a series of pixel); you want to alter the saturation of of an image you rendered.
Adobe Illustrator is the iconic tool for manipulating vectors (a line is an curve fitting equation); you want to create a box, a font, put text on a circle.
Adobe InDesign looks like the unholy marriage of Illustrator and Microsoft Word; you want to create a magazine, flyer or book, it is the go to tool.
Adobe Sketch is a natural media tool for drawing as if you were using a pen or brush.
Adobe Spark is like a chymeric version of PowerPoint and InDesign; you want to create that interactive website or presentation...
Adobe Capture allows to draw a picture on paper and convert it to an Illustrator friendly vector format.
Premiere Pro allows you to edit video.
AfterEffects allows you to do all of the fancy graphics like you see during a commercial or news broadcast opening.
Premiere Rush makes it easy to quickly upload your video to various social media formats.
Character Animator does animation especially for web formats.
Adobe Audition allows to edit music for your video.
LightRoom organizes your photo and other content.
Dreamweaver is like a specialized Photoshop for web content creation.
Adobe XD is a prototyping tool to create content that may be repurposed to the web or print etc... especially if you work with a team.
Adobe Acrobat is a tool tomake printable versions of what you do that are fairly accurate to what you create on screen.
There is a whole slew of tool for display like Behance and Adobe Portfolio and there is content like Adobe Fonts.
There is a controversy brewing right now with Adobe supposedly "testing" a price increase for subscriptions to some of their software. I avoid Adobe due to the subscription nature of their business. I'm not happy with PC+ being a subscription either, in case anybody is wondering.
What a strange comment. THe Platinum club has always been a club that you pay a subscription to since it's inception, and the PC is older than the forums
Everything is moving towards subscriptions, and it's a great way of making business.
Maybe this is not the case of Adobe, but many softwares would be abandoned without a continue cash flow, and the user experience would degrade.
Then, everything that's on the cloud could be accessed by different devices. You don't have to upgrade your software manually.
There is less piracy.
And all this money allow them to create better software.
I don't think 20 bucks a month is a great deal for who works with their great tools every single day for years and years.
And the Platinum Club is great...the only problem is that it's addictive :(
There is no warning on Platinum Club, right?
Curious to hear what the alternative should be :D
That doesn't mean I have to like the fact that it is a subscription.
I said the above to demonstrate that I am consistent in my assessment of subscriptions. I dislike them all, even the ones I keep.
"Everything" is most definitely not moving toward subscriptions. Too many are, sure, but not everything. For example, the thread on Mac Rumors now has a lot of people identifying non-subscription alternatives to Adobe software. It seems that the art world is quite healthy and vibrant without subscriptions lurking around every corner.
That may very well be, but the case can also be made that subscription software does not always live up to the promise that it won't be "abandoned" anyway. Some Adobe CC (Creative Cloud; all cloud, all subscription) software, for example, has seen only middling upgrades in recent years.
That's not always true either. Not every cloud/subscription offering will run on your iPhone or Android, and that may very well be for technical reasons having nothing to do with the business model.
I am certainly not one of those people still on Windows XP and expecting modern software with modern performance. I often am berated in The Commons for advising people to upgrade their CPU or GPU. So I have a more modern bent, as it were. But even so, I recognize that sometimes it's just smarter to upgrade manually, so as to control what is being changed and the timing of those changes, as well as "when" I pay for those changes.
I don't support or promote piracy. But subscriptions are no guarantee of less piracy either.
To me this is an old old myth, perpetuated mostly by Adobe and those that benefit the most from the subscription model. There is no guarantee that more money equals better software, and in many cases that has been shown to not be the case at all.
There are content creaters here who even avoid a one-time charge for software by getting Hexagon or Blender which are free. A couple of them have said they even feed their families from the sales of their creations. Do you really think they would pay $20 a month for something? Some might, but I kind of doubt that it would be a majority.
I get the PC and I am a subscriber. But I haven't bought anything for probably a year or more. I haven't canceled but even so I still reserve the right to dislike the subscripton model.
Your health club membership is a subscription. You can even think of your cable and phone as subscriptions. Your life is full of subscriptions, some necessary (like your home, auto, and life insurance premiums), some decidedly less so. Even my monthly cell phone bill is too much. But we all have to make choices.
I just make it known to all that given a choice, I am subscription averse. I generally avoid new ones, even cheap ones. That's why I don't have Netflix or Spotify. That's why I don't have an Office 365 one. That's why I won't buy space on Dropbox, and I'm trying to avoid a new health club membership. When Adobe went subscription-only for their CC suite, they effectively removed themselves from my list.
No matter how cheap they are, I resist them because I already have too many.
I realize that most people are happy to buy into subscriptions. I'm also aware that most people are price-insensitive to subscription increases, which is why $20 monthly for PhotoShop and Lightroom sounds fine to a lot of people, or why $60 monthly for the whole Adobe suite sounds pretty appealing. But price increases always come and they always seem to be sneaked in during the dead of night when we're sleeping. Which reminds me...have you all checked your cable/satellite TV bill lately? You might be surprised what little add-ons were slipped in within the last 6 months or so.
Sorry for the controversy, but I kind of feel strongly on this one. I'm not planning to cancel my PC membership anyway, because I have a nice new laptop designed partly for this kind of work and because I'm looking forward to stocking up on Gen8 stuff.
The nice thing though, at least with the PC - is that content purchased at PC pricing, remains available even if you then let your subscription slide. I'd understand your position if the PC subscription was required to use the content (such as services like Netflix etc) on an ongoing basis.
Oh there's an idea ;) (that's a joke btw)
So it is more like Audible membership which means you keep the content but Netflix you borrow the content.
Maybe that's why I haven't canceled PC in all this time. It's more like a discount club and not a usage club.
I'm OK with subscriptions with fallback license, where you can keep and use the programs if you cancel after having subscribed for 12+ months or so.
@Miss Bad Wolf
Adobe Illustrator is way overkill for a weekly work schedule.
Either shrink the template, rotate it, or both (depending on how the template matches the size and orientation of the visible-printing area). And before you start anything, make sure the page size setup matches the printer you'll be using — Illustrator can be set to huge print sizes, and it isn't always obvious what it is unless you check the settings.
That said, Illustrator isn't really the best tool for this type of job; it's really best used for vector art. If it were me, I'd use InDesign, with the caveat that it has almost as steep a learning curve as Illustrator (just with lumps and bumps in different places).
If it were me, I wouldn't use a graphics program for a schedule at all - I would use a spreadsheet. That is the kind of thing they were designed for. If you want it to be fancy, most spreadsheets can accomodate that as well.
I am still using Adobe Creative Suite pro 5.5 & 6 that has all the adobe tools like Photoshop,illustrator,fireworks,Dreamweaver, lighting room, etc. & was the last stand alone software suite Adobe released before going the creative cloud route . after that I stopped buying & supporting adobe. its bad enough if i want a cool game i have to stream it DRM . So as long as my standalone software works for industry standards of jpeg,png' and my PSD brushes still works for layering in my standalone software. why bother renting a cloud one that is more restrictive..
Illustrator & fireworks are very useful if you are in the professional printer business for printing & publishing , The only reason Adobe is a well known name is only because at one time Adobe was the industry standard for graphic manipulation & illustration. but in todays market they lost a lot of that clout. with freeware and standalone software that is now available. Like printshop pro and gimp. HitFilm etc. that can pretty much do everything that Photoshop does. Google offers alot of free online photo tools as well.
But if you really want & had your heart set on using Adobe Photoshop software. Adobe still has Photoshop Elements for a one time standalone fee https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-elements.html that is a combination of standalone DRM software . other that that your shit out of luck if you don't have a older Adobe CS suite already & your stuck with cloud options only as far as adobe tools are concerned.