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This was the sort of discussion I was hoping to spark. Nice and friendly!
I'll have to hunt down that morph transfer script. My main thing is I already have so many lovely Gen 8 ladies.
And if they did a Gen 9 this year... Yeah, I'd be one of those that stuck to gen 8. Unless it was a vast improvement AND came with all the clones for clothing. I totally get the whole "invested" thing. That's the primary reason I hesitate to grab the Centaur is because I'm already so heavily invested in gen 8. But hey, if I can transfer morphs...
For horse, I've got the HIvewire horse. I really liked the Fresian model. I have yet to explore whether or not the Daz Horse 2 stuff fits it.
One of my problems with PAs, and it was mentioned, is that they tend to build towards their own sense of style/vision. I feel as if I'm being shoehorned in creating *their* idea. I do like things I can kitbash, but somethings are difficult to do anything with other than the intended final result. There is a "Vampire Hunter" outfit that I liked the pants on, but when I took a closer look, it was sold as a one-piece outfit. Maybe top could be made transparent, maybe not, but I passed on the purchase because I didn't want to take the risk of not being able to use it for what I wanted it for.
I know rawart makes some nice stuff, but again, I've felt shoe-horned with some of the purchases. (And I'd really love an update to the Medusa hair so I can more easily apply it to a gen8.) I purchased the No Suit, and really wish it had better documentation. Can't figure out if it will actually work for what I want it for. Can't figure out how to apply skin mats to certain zones. Granted, I haven't put much time on it, but I still thought better documentation would go a long way. (And examples)
But that's true for many nifty PA tools/utilities/assets. I see that apparently I can load different base skins into skin builder 8, but I have yet to figure out HOW. (Just an example) So one thing Daz Original content generally has going for it is better documentation, or at least, better labels on things.
Anyway, there is a reason I spend good money on morph packs and converters. While there are a couple models I'll use as-is, (Rochelle is a doll) I like to customize to fit my vision of the character.
From what I can gather here, it looks like my best bet is to pick up C7 when it goes on sale again, and also keep an eye out on morphs for Genesis 3 male/female. And also pick up that morph transfer thing. Add to my shopping list, but I'm sure I'm not the only person looking at a wishlist of over 1,050+ items! I'd like to kitbash together an Orc Centaur, and I'd really love to figure out how to do an Andalite, though I'd think I'd need a deer morph of some kind to get the more elegant shape.
And while we're on the subject. Would really like a more graceful option for Unicorn, other than slapping a horn on a horse. In mythology they were described as having cloven hooves and a more graceful form. I just can't reconcile the current option with the more classic vision I want to use. : (
In the comic shared, yeah. That is a bit different because it's a dress that compliment the shape of the centaur. Those big hoop skirts work nicely, and I imagine there would be a cut-out for the hoop part to fit. I do think it would look nice if it had an expanse of fabric draped over the horse half, though. Being hand-drawn, the artist can reshape things so it looks "right." whereas the dress options I've seen for C7 just look wrong. Then again, it would be nice to have something to cover up the transition area. Maybe there are some wide belts I could use for the same purpose. (Or I suppose I just put on a full shirt instead of skimpy bikini top.)
I've been building a tabletop RPG, and that becomes my main reason for wanting centaurs. I want to incorporate them into one of the settings I'm designing. I'd love to do my own art. Glad we've got this discussion going, as I'm having a blast AND learning things.
yeah like the others doubt we'd get a centaur 8 or 9 maybe chance of something else hoefully unique still coming in the human creature hybrids. Vampires and zombies/undead are probably going to be the most common to see in each gen. In G2 we had a spider woman you can kinda do g3 by parenting her onto an invisible g2 takes bit of work but I've done it same with human dragon hybrids. Was hoping for mermaids but while we did get some you gotta use the human skins/bodies they come with. I still use g2 and 3 and some older but mostly g8 but I do do a lot of multi gen stuff. I enjoy kit bashing too and have hits and misses.
Forest Serenity 2
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for the creature used various morphs from products listed maybe a few missed
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Very nicely done. I did mine for a unit of elven centaur mounted cavalry. Generally grenadiers for a contest entry lol.
The Hivewire horse has a unicorn morph and it has Whisper which is a stylised unicorn, the different breed morphs can be mixed to get a shape you may like and the upcoming Deer (a morph of the horse)has a cloven hoof morph (separate I belive) so look out for its release.
As for that, Sparky, who is a PA over on Hivewire has some 3rd-party morphs for the Hivewire horse. The Kirin one also has cloven hooves, as, I think, does the unicorn. The hoof morphs are optional. But the deer will add a lot of aditional possibilities.
I'd forgotton that the Unicorn had the cloven hoof morph, and Kirin is the only one I don't have. So yes the cloven hoof can already be done with the Hivewire Horse no need to wait for the Deer.
I'll point out that Daz Horse 2 has a cloven hoof morph, so you can rather easily replicate that without any extra anything.
(Also a bunch of other morphs that can help make a horse look more slender and graceful)
You don't have to use the Rheena morph, I didn't since I didn't care for the way Rheena looked either, but I got it just for the transition from GF3 to the body that DAZ neglected to do.
This is the closest shape I could get to what I like using Rheena and my own and other morphs, but the downside is I am stuck using the Rheena textures and the horse textures without some heavy photoshop work because the top GF3 texture is also on the bottom part, so any edits affcts the whole figure unnfortunately.
I wish talented PAs would create options packages more instead of single vision creations since they are very limiting to many artists
If you purchased the pro bundle, you got all of the breed morphs, (as well as their coats, used for the centaur 7 figures,) which Will is referring to. Half of those are the Starter Bundle Content, and the other half are the Pro Bundle Content. (Come on, Daz. Change the name of those two and make them available as standalone products!)
There are two PA products to change the horse into a unicorn, one from Sickleyield and one from Design Anvil. Then there's the more recent Tane the Old Deer for the horse with a separate body morph you can add to the mix.
I have the Hivewire Horse, and I wouldn't hesitate to buy addons for it. But if you have the Daz Horse 2 and not the HW3D horse, you may be able save a lot of money using products you already own, (or can pick up fairly reasonably if you're patient.) That can be important if you have a small budget. (IMO, it's a good idea to have both horses, if you can afford them.)
The things I learn here in the forums. I get more mileage here than I do spending hours browsing the catalog.
I admit I didn't dig too much into the Hivewire page yet. I saw horse, bought horse, and haven't looked any deeper. The character in my novel rides a black horse, and the Fresian model was perfect for the cover art. I'll definitely be digging in more. And if there are cloven hoof morphs for Daz horse, and they would apply to the Centaur...
I'm glad I got the PC+ membership. It's already paid for itself several times over. Daz is going to end up with a lot of my money this year...