Old Poser stuff not too bad in DS -
daveso
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I decided to try some products I bought awhile ago for Poser in DS ... left everything as they came..just loaded the CR2 ... the buildings are the ones I imported.
The van is from Junktown Gun store ... pretty much fits right in with the shanty buildings.
this is just a first go at it ... obviously a lot needs to be done..positioning, etc..plus need to load some propls and stuff..maye even some characters... mainly now I'm just excited the Poser stuff works as it does ..OH ..this is an IRAY render, no conversion or anything.
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this brings up another thing..its hard to find products that fit a genre/category. How do you keep track of all your stuff so you can find it without wading through hundreds and hundreds of files?
Put everything into custom categories - obviously easier to do as you go along, rather than after you've already accumulated years worth of stuff.
Right click on the product folder, select "create category from..." and categorise it whichever way suits you best. I've got stuff like SETS > SCI-FI, SETS > GOTHIC, VEHICLES > AIR, VEHICLES > GROUND, VEHICLES > SPACE, etc.
I don't really know how anyone manages without creating their own filing system, because the defaults provided by content creators over the years are all over the place.
thanks..sounds great. is it possible to have one product in more than one category? Its often possible to use in different situations
Yes, I'm pretty sure you can add things to multiple categories.
Yes, you can multi-categorize. I categorize by vendor as well as subject categories.
cool .. it might take awhile but well worth the effort.
I've been using the alpha of Taos' Product Manager for Daz3D. Of course, it only catalogs the stuff you buy here and not at the other place(s), but it's a huge help and if he/she would release it already I'd be happy to buy it. LOL. :P
It doesn't tell you where the product is in your library or even if it's installed, but it does tell you you OWN it ;).
Laurie
sounds interesting. I have a ton of stuff from all over.
I made myself a picture catalogue with the stores thumbnails AND the items names, which I use to find things. Then, Install manager tells me where I installed them. Easier, as there is nothing an update can break. And the store thumbnails are much bigger than the tiny thumbs in DAZStudio.
I just use the DAZ Browser extension you can get here free in the forums and the SHOP page. Works really well and reminds me of older stuff I have. The search works well too then.
Now I just place Content library on the right, Smart Content on the left and I drag the files where I want them to be: it works!! :D
a lot of the stuff i have from other stores does not show up even in the directory of the content library. Its there in my PC directory ... even the same categories. I've started just using Import in the file menu and doing it that way ... serious pain though.
He also has a download manager for Renderosity products that works passably well, though it's still lacking a lot of the functions of the DAZ Product manager, most notably being able to store the contents of the catalog page offline and export the data as a list to Excel. It's also not free, but well worth the $14 I paid for it, especially since, unlike Rendo's own site, it shows you both purchased and gifted items at the same time.
As for the DAZ product manager - it's fantastic, but could be greatly improved by two small modifications. First, there needs to be an easy way to add data and/or images for products that are no longer in the DAZ store, since unlike Rendo, DAZ doesn't archive that information, so I have hundreds of entries in the DPM that only display the name of the product and a 402 card, and I have a bunch of DAZ items that came as freebies in magazines or were purchased on DVD directly from DAZ at conventions. The second would be the ability to add your own sortable category columns so you could do a quick sort by a category like Landscape, Lights, G2F character, V4 CLothing, etc. Right now you can do this by exporting the list into Excel, but then you lose the visual compnent
Unfortunately, the one flaw with that system is that the shop page is only as accurate as the data stored at DAZ, and that database only contains ACTIVE products. As a result, there there are a huge number of products that won't display on the shop page at all since DAZ tends to whitewash them out of exisitence. For example, I bought Abalone's Head SHop 6 EX from DAZ, but that product won't show up on either his vendor page or in the software category. LIkewise, none of my RealIllusion products will show, or older Poser/DS products like Nerd3d's Fog and Waterfall Tools, Stonemason's Urban Sprawl 1, most of Lisa's Botanicals or Ken Gilliard's birds... all of which are still perfectly valid products that fill market niches that have yet to be filled by anything else.
I can't say if this is the best solution for you. But I click the daz content folder or content hard drive and using widows search at the top of the browser with the items your looking for name or close as I can remember, as a search term, And it is usually gives quicker listing what your looking for than trying to use smart content or data organizers when looking for 1 certain item.. Plus windows search will list all the content using the names in your search terms. the textures the folder location, coresponding supports items like props, poses ,etc. giving you options you might have missed other wise..
That is what works best for me anyway.
There is no great way, unfortunately. Using custom categories is your best option, but it's rather time intensive and if you have to move your content or alter one of your runtimes, you may find that a lot of your carefully ordered cat system suddenly leads to dead links or your old runtime locations instead of the current ones.
i think what i need to do is catalog mu purchases instead ... make something easy to find what I have and maybe directory links ... A lot of what I've gotten from other stores I need to load via import anyway. I can't figure out how to get them into the content library ...
Are you talking about the actual content library, the alphabetical "Products" column underneath your Poser and DAZ directories, or the Smart Content? I'm guessing that you don't mean Smart content, which requires metadata set up by DAZ, making it useless for those with a lot of non-DS products in their runtimes.) However, if you install a product in a runtime file that your DS installtion has access to and you can see and load the product from the tree, then it's in your content library by definition. To get a product to show up in the alphabetical "Products" column requires manually slecting the item and creating a product listing, which is really tedious but also, fortunately, completely unnecessary if you're going to arrange the product using custom categories.
As for cataloging your purchases, if you can find a good system that can automatically import all of your content data, the DAZ world will beat a path to your door. RIght now Toasofts two progams are the best thing out there, but there actually USED to be pretty good system sold here many years ago called 3D Content Database 2, though it had a 10,000 item limit and the script it used to pull data from the DAZ store was rendered useless when DAZ re-did the store, and it was never able to pull Rendo, RDNA or COntent paradize data in the first place. It did, however, allow the display of large images and allowed for a number of different methods of search/sort, which is where most of the other organizer programs fall on their face. Winterbrose has a program called Content Cataloger Easy that can sort of scan your files, but the images are limited to the same thumbnails that you'd get if you're using custom categories, and Rocketship 3D's system seems do the same.
"Right now you can do this by exporting the list into Excel, but then you lose the visual compnent"
I haven't used the feature in forever, and I'm not certain that there is a way of batch transferring the images, but you can create a column in Excel for links to your promo images. You can place them all in a single folder/directory. Not as convenient as having them right there, but they are only a click away for anything you are interested in.
a lot of the other store purchases don't seem to show up in the content library. most actually. Not sure why. I unzip them, copy the runtime ... paste into the My DAZ Library directory. the stuff is in there. I need to check all the categories again.
My main thing is that I cannot find what I want for a scene or what is actually in a product. It is possible to kitbash a lot of stuff into a scene from multiple products. For instaqnce, when I started this scene way up there, I wanted to expand upon it. I know I bought different post apolcolyptic products, but eneded up spending hours trying to find them and then ended up in the stores looking at past purchases, then the store page for the product to determine what had what. its a real PITA, quite frankly.
So then I thought to maybe just place all props into categories, not within the complete package product ... etc etc.... it wouldn;t be bad if I had like 100 products, but its probably closer to 10,000 with all the free stuff and going way back.
Maybe its just something that will have to be.