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does Melody/Micah A3 not need the rte thingy naos?

MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
edited December 2016 in The Commons

i've always! wanted this but was scared of rte.  is it a normal install now that it's in daz store?

http://www.daz3d.com/melody-for-a3

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  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    I'm not sure what the rte is.  Melody installs with DIM now so I assume that it doesn't need this now?  I have her installed through DIM although, tbh, I haven't actually used her yet.  I've picked up so many great Poser only RDNA characters that I haven't had a chance to try them all out yet.  

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 2016

    rte was the encoding thingie.  

    encryption in the old days, basically smiley

    oh they in a bundle  http://www.daz3d.com/melody-and-micah-bundle
    same price as the individual

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,571

    The reason why Micah was encoded is that Runtime DNA did not have the rights to use the mesh of Aiko 3.

    Since Runtime DNA is now a part of Daz 3D, rte is no longer needed.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    ja smiley  was my logic behind posting this question.

    was hoping for verification,  i hate returning stuff.

    last rdna thing i bought turned out to be a poser dynamic dress, not mentioned in product details. >.<

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,571
    edited December 2016

    I have bought Melody and Micah bundle from Daz3D and they are not encoded (at least at the time I have downloaded them),

    but I have no way to proof or verify it to you. If you want to be sure, just contact Daz 3D support.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 2016

    Artini is correct, files like this were encooded to make sure that those using them had bought the original figures.  Merging RDNA into Daz 3d meant that it was no longer neccessary to encode the files using RTE encoder.

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    ty ! smiley

  • rtesterrtester Posts: 38

    Does anyone know how t use this product? I also own Micah and the furries bundle but I cannot figure out where to locate these to use a scene. I am also pretty new to Daz Studio so if you could give me a step y step how to load them would be fine.  What I have done so far is load A3 or H3 but I can't find Melody or Micah transforms or the furries transform. that is where I am stuck.

  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745

    During the PA sale, there was a day when some fun-looking stuff was available for Melody and Micah, but the product pages (e.g. Furries for Micah) seem to indicate you need a base that the pages don't link to. And I couldn't find Micah by searching in the store, so I figured these furry products are expansion sets for stuff longtime Poser users may have, stuff that isn't actually sold here in the DAZ store. I let the sale pass because I couldn't find the required products. There are actually quite several furry products in the store, but no apparent way to use them.

    So I'm surprised to see the Melody thing discussed above. Just in case the furry sale ever comes around again, is there actually any way for a new user to get Micah?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,954
    edited November 2018

    Melody is still here: https://www.daz3d.com/melody-for-a3

    Micah and the bundle don't seem to be in the store anymore. I think Micah was made by Redspark, whose store here was closed recently.

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  • mrposermrposer Posts: 1,134

    My understanding was Melody incorporated the A3 mesh so she could wear Aiko 3 clothes and Micah incorporated H3 mesh so he could wear Hiro 3 clothes. Neither are morphs of either A3 or H3 but independent figures so that was the need for RTE encoder to verify that the user had bought the base figures. This would still be the case even when the products were moved to DAZ, unless DAZ just gave them a pass and is not requiring the user to own either A3 or H3 in order to use these cool characters. I guess that is the case if they can be installed via DIM.

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 1,598
    mrposer said:

    My understanding was Melody incorporated the A3 mesh so she could wear Aiko 3 clothes and Micah incorporated H3 mesh so he could wear Hiro 3 clothes. Neither are morphs of either A3 or H3 but independent figures so that was the need for RTE encoder to verify that the user had bought the base figures. This would still be the case even when the products were moved to DAZ, unless DAZ just gave them a pass and is not requiring the user to own either A3 or H3 in order to use these cool characters. I guess that is the case if they can be installed via DIM.

    Hip and Head were modified.

  • rtesterrtester Posts: 38

    Nice to see a discussion on this but does anyone know how to use them or where to find the furries in the content library?

     

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 9,291

  • rtesterrtester Posts: 38
    Bunyip02_Carrara said:

    Could you please help me and tell me how to find and use them?

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited November 2018

    Content Library/Poser Formats/Whichever library you downloaded to/Figures/Micah (or Melody) for the base figures.

    Content Library/Poser Formats/Whichever library you downloaded to/Pose/Micah (or Melody) for the textures

    The default library DIM uses is /My DAZ 3D Library/

     

    There are morphs for bending the tail under the tail "bones", you can select one, some or all to get flowing curves. All third generation poses seem to work ok eg Hiro3 or Mike3 etc.

    Edit:

    Sorry rtester, I miss-read you. I have my furries in the wrong runtime library but will post a screen-cap soon(ish) but basically they are in the same places but with /CDI/ between Pose or Figure  and Micah or Melody.

    Finding Micah.jpg
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  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647

    This product and Beth Capsces' "Furries for..." allowed me to depict in 3D a character I originally created in graphite during March of 1985.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • rtesterrtester Posts: 38
    Pack58 said:

    Content Library/Poser Formats/Whichever library you downloaded to/Figures/Micah (or Melody) for the base figures.

    Content Library/Poser Formats/Whichever library you downloaded to/Pose/Micah (or Melody) for the textures

    The default library DIM uses is /My DAZ 3D Library/

     

    There are morphs for bending the tail under the tail "bones", you can select one, some or all to get flowing curves. All third generation poses seem to work ok eg Hiro3 or Mike3 etc.

    Thanks for the help. Yeah, I just used the default setting I believe. So I do not need to load Hiro 3 or Aiko 3 up first? And then morph them to the furries?

     

    Redfern said:

    This product and Beth Capsces' "Furries for..." allowed me to depict in 3D a character I originally created in graphite during March of 1985.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    I really like these characters I was wanting to make  sprite sheets with them and use them in an RPG Maker game.  Nice Image!!! 

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited November 2018
    rtester said:

    Thanks for the help. Yeah, I just used the default setting I believe. So I do not need to load Hiro 3 or Aiko 3 up first? And then morph them to the furries?

    That's right. Under Figures/CDI/Furries there are base figures for Furries Mel and Furries Micah. Start with those, don't load Hiro or Aiko.

    Edit: Lets see if I can upload the image that goes with the words this time.

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 9,291
    edited November 2018
    rtester said:
    Bunyip02_Carrara said:

    Could you please help me and tell me how to find and use them?

    In addition to Melody and Micah there were the CDI Furries for both figures.

    IM00024993-01_FurriesforMelody - https://www.daz3d.com/furries-for-melody

    IM00024994-01_FurriesforMicah - https://www.daz3d.com/furries-for-micah

    You need to add the CDI Melody/Micah figure to your scene, then add your Head/Tail morphs to the CDI figure, next apply the skin texture.

    The CDI Melody and Micah can be found in the Poser Formats - My DAZ 3D Library - Figures - CDI - Furries

    The CDI head and tail morphs can be found in Poser Formats - My DAZ 3D Library - Pose - CDI - Furries

    The additional character skins can be found in Poser Formats - My DAZ 3D Library - Pose - Melody

    EDIT_ Beaten to the draw, had lunch then answered.

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  • rtesterrtester Posts: 38
    Pack58 said:
    rtester said:

    Thanks for the help. Yeah, I just used the default setting I believe. So I do not need to load Hiro 3 or Aiko 3 up first? And then morph them to the furries?

    That's right. Under Figures/CDI/Furries there are base figures for Furries Mel and Furries Micah. Start with those, don't load Hiro or Aiko.

    Edit: Lets see if I can upload the image that goes with the words this time.

     

    Bunyip02_Carrara said:
    rtester said:
    Bunyip02_Carrara said:

    Could you please help me and tell me how to find and use them?

    In addition to Melody and Micah there were the CDI Furries for both figures.

    IM00024993-01_FurriesforMelody - https://www.daz3d.com/furries-for-melody

    IM00024994-01_FurriesforMicah - https://www.daz3d.com/furries-for-micah

    You need to add the CDI Melody/Micah figure to your scene, then add your Head/Tail morphs to the CDI figure, next apply the skin texture.

    The CDI Melody and Micah can be found in the Poser Formats - My DAZ 3D Library - Figures - CDI - Furries

    The CDI head and tail morphs can be found in Poser Formats - My DAZ 3D Library - Pose - CDI - Furries

    The additional character skins can be found in Poser Formats - My DAZ 3D Library - Pose - Melody

    EDIT_ Beaten to the draw, had lunch then answered.

    Thanks to both of the above people and everyone else who commented. I found the figures and faces from the first post and I found the textures from the second post the second post directory structure seemed to match up with what mine is for some reason I could not find the StdAlone directory. But I found the figures anyways from the list. and then I could not find the textures until I was about to post asking where they are and I saw your post also. I guess I only have 1 texture for both each figure at the moment I thought I was buying textures but I was not it seems.  Where does one get more textures for the Furries? Also one more quick question how do I reset the poses of the furries? after I set a pose I tried to use the Aiko 3 reset but I was getting an error when I tried to use it on Melody or Micah once again. THANK YOU ALL.

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 9,291
    edited November 2018

    If you have the CDI Furries morphs for Melody there is a zero head morph included. Otherwise you will either have to hit the undo button or delete and reload the figure as the Melody download file only has Cheetah skin & eye files in the pose folder.

    Skins (they do sometimes go on sale):-

    https://www.daz3d.com/silvina-for-melody-a3

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-chihuahua

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-faces-dog (faces no skins)

    https://www.daz3d.com/deer-for-furries

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-cows

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-chipmunk

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-bast-and-anubis

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-fisher-cat

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-red-panda

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-fox-and-wolf

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-skunk-and-squirrels

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-tigers

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-bears

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-lynx

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-rabbits-and-mice

    https://www.daz3d.com/cattitude

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  • rtesterrtester Posts: 38
    Bunyip02_Carrara said:

    If you have the CDI Furries morphs for Melody there is a zero head morph included. Otherwise you will either have to hit the undo button or delete and reload the figure as the Melody download file only has Cheetah skin & eye files in the pose folder.

    Skins (they do sometimes go on sale):-

    https://www.daz3d.com/silvina-for-melody-a3

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-chihuahua

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-faces-dog (faces no skins)

    https://www.daz3d.com/deer-for-furries

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-cows

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-chipmunk

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-bast-and-anubis

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-fisher-cat

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-red-panda

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-fox-and-wolf

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-skunk-and-squirrels

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-tigers

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-bears

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-lynx

    https://www.daz3d.com/furries-furs-rabbits-and-mice

    https://www.daz3d.com/cattitude

    Thanks for the links!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    does anyone remember the what this hair and outfit was called?

    i tried melody hair, but that was something different.

     

     

    thanks smiley

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,954

    Harmony: https://www.daz3d.com/harmony-for-aiko3

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Thank  yousmiley

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,539

    I loaded Melody and Micah into Carrara for a video I did not long ago

    work out the box

    unlike the latest DAZ figures devil

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I loaded Melody and Micah into Carrara for a video I did not long ago

    work out the box

    unlike the latest DAZ figures devil

    yes! returning to the classics.

    many runtime gigs of Aiko 3 / 19 Hiro  3 stuff.  dagon/essa, furries bundles.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,539
    Mystiarra said:
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I loaded Melody and Micah into Carrara for a video I did not long ago

    work out the box

    unlike the latest DAZ figures devil

    yes! returning to the classics.

    many runtime gigs of Aiko 3 / 19 Hiro  3 stuff.  dagon/essa, furries bundles.

     

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